Useless for you, perhaps; but good luck with a DFU restore if your phone gets bricked for any reason, plus paying out extra for the space for *cloud backups.
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iPhone 15 Pro Rumored to Feature Thunderbolt Port With Significant Advantage Over Lightning
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Useless for you, perhaps; but good luck with a DFU restore if your phone gets bricked for any reason, plus paying out extra for the space for *cloud backups.
BL.
Cuz Apple would likely sue if someone reverse engineered what's built in directly to the OS to work with a PC or Linux.
… in that case the world will demand an iPhone Ultra SE …
Stick an M3 processor into the iPhone and advertise it as a Mac Ultra Mini-Mini. Then they can sell the MUMMs w/ docking ports so people can use their iPhone as their personal and work laptop replacement.
Apple's next-generation iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max will feature a USB-C port with support for at least USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, which would give the devices a significant speed advantage over existing models.
Thunderbolt 3 theoretically offers bandwidth of up to 40 Gbps, while the Lightning connector has USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps on all existing iPhones. Even with real-world performance limitations, an iPhone 15 Pro with a Thunderbolt-enabled USB-C port would offer significantly faster data transfer speeds with a Thunderbolt cable, making it much quicker to get large files on and off of the iPhone, such as 48-megapixel ProRAW photos.
Even if the iPhone 15 Pro models only get USB 3.2 support, that would mean theoretical transfer speeds of between 5 Gbps and 20 Gbps depending on the exact specification, which would still be significantly faster than Lightning.
Most iPads with USB-C ports already offer faster transfer speeds. iPad Pro models with the M1 chip and newer support Thunderbolt 3 for bandwidth of up to 40 Gbps, the fifth-generation iPad Air is capable of 10 Gbps, and the fourth-generation iPad Air and latest iPad mini are capable of up to 5 Gbps. The sole exception is the new 10th-generation standard iPad with a USB-C port, which remains limited to USB 2.0 speeds.
Like the 10th-generation iPad, Kuo said the standard iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus will remain limited to USB 2.0 speeds, despite switching to a USB-C port. AirDrop would remain an option for faster wireless data transfers on these devices.
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Yes it matters.
It’s a better way to backup your iPhone if you’re not a paid subscriber of iCloud. Backups using Wifi syncing is too slow.
There are also users who need to transfer huge photos out.
If your iPhone has issues and needs troubleshooting or data recovery via the type-C port, the process will be a lot faster.
Not to mention that now you can finally use MagSafe chargers with Type-C ports.
So they're opting for the stinging fine from the EU and ongoing strife model instead of abiding by the ruling. How very unnecessarily stubborn of them.
Definitely, PLEASE!!! throw a thunderbolt3 connector into the device. I have found it is so much more reliable for various data transfers (vs USB protocols).
It would be great to have this as the main option for frequent data transfer (+ The various other benefits).
It would be great to have this as the main option for frequent data transfer (+ The various other benefits).
Faster data transfer speeds are necessary. Hoping to see it happen next year.
Good thing you click on it every time u see it. Makes perfect sense.
Nah think different man, no charger 🔌 no cable ! Completely wireless charging only and you buy the charger separately as different types for phone , phone plus watch etc and an even higher water resistance as no charging port !
Apple's next-generation iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max will feature a USB-C port with support for at least USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, which would give the devices a significant speed advantage over existing models.
Thunderbolt 3 theoretically offers bandwidth of up to 40 Gbps, while the Lightning connector has USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps on all existing iPhones. Even with real-world performance limitations, an iPhone 15 Pro with a Thunderbolt-enabled USB-C port would offer significantly faster data transfer speeds with a Thunderbolt cable, making it much quicker to get large files on and off of the iPhone, such as 48-megapixel ProRAW photos.
Even if the iPhone 15 Pro models only get USB 3.2 support, that would mean theoretical transfer speeds of between 5 Gbps and 20 Gbps depending on the exact specification, which would still be significantly faster than Lightning.
Most iPads with USB-C ports already offer faster transfer speeds. iPad Pro models with the M1 chip and newer support Thunderbolt 3 for bandwidth of up to 40 Gbps, the fifth-generation iPad Air is capable of 10 Gbps, and the fourth-generation iPad Air and latest iPad mini are capable of up to 5 Gbps. The sole exception is the new 10th-generation standard iPad with a USB-C port, which remains limited to USB 2.0 speeds.
Like the 10th-generation iPad, Kuo said the standard iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus will remain limited to USB 2.0 speeds, despite switching to a USB-C port. AirDrop would remain an option for faster wireless data transfers on these devices.
Article Link: iPhone 15 Pro Rumored to Feature Thunderbolt Port With Significant Advantage Over Lightning
The market is rapidly maturing with every release, that is to say more and more smartphone owners own higher end models that were released within the last 5 years.
But seeing how increasingly small jumps in SoC performance are becoming, a 2-3 year old smartphone is getting increasingly less and less outdated in terms of performance.
This means that buyers are increasingly getting less solid reasons to upgrade.
For Apple, this means finding other ways to make older devices feel outdated but also, just as important, make mid-tier and budget options look less attractive which indirectly pushes those who are in the market for a new device to go with a high end option(“Pro”).
Doing vast differences between USB-C speeds on iPhones is a very easy step to ensure big numbers in general and increasingly more Pro iPhone purchases over mid-tier and budget.
I’m pretty sure mid-tier 14 sales were only lackluster because Pro sales were so much better than any previous year.
And since the EU regulation only takes effect in late 2024, I actually believe only Pro iPhones 15 will have USB-C.
Mid-tier and SE might have to wait until the 2024 or even 2025 lineups to see USB-C.
And don’t expect it to outperform Lightning on -Better than USB 2.0 is probably reserved for Pro iPhones for at least a three year product cycle.
Because whatever advantage the Lightning port may have had over USB-C early on is long gone, I have been surprised for years that this was a hill that Apple chose to die on especially lately. There may have been the possibility of better performance but few other companies made products that actually took advantage of them. And USB-C DIDN'T stand still. I think I know why 3rd party companies didn't jump on the Lightning connector bandwagon but I am surprised by how determined Apple was to keep using that proprietary format that no one else did.
Yes, I realize that but do you really think it's in the consumer's best interest that governments start calling the shots on technology? You could argue that it's only a cable, but next time, it might be the display technology or something else. This will just cause the price to go up. I don't want a bunch bureaucrats dictating what technology solutions I use. Let the technology companies fight with themselves and let the consumers choose the solution that best meets their need.
Yes it’s only the beginning. Its not about the customers it’s about power. In a few years perhaps we will find out whats really behind this.
They were still including the cable. Brazil is just making laws that are the exact opposite of EU laws. I don't think Apple is allowed to include a power supply in the box in France already, but I'm having trouble sourcing that so maybe I made it up.
It's not "just wifi". AirDrop uses a combination of bluetooth & wifi to find and connect between devices, and I'm pretty sure its not open source to work with the built in AirDrop features of iPhones.