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Nobody [gross majority] is thinking their phone is slow anymore to trigger a mass upgrade.
True, but I for one do. I’ve started to shoot with 48mp raw and iPhone 14 pro really chugs the battery and takes its dear time when processing these files. Of course this probably has more to do with thermal management than anything, but I will welcome any improvement.
 
I'll be waiting for the 16. Hopefully it still has the Qualcomm modem.
 
iPhone 15 Pro's Next-Gen Chip Capabilities Expected to Spark Upgrade Demand Among Current iPhone Owners
Why? What is slow with a iPhone 14 Pro? I just upgrade every year for stuff like better camera lens, dynamic island, larger storage, etc.
 
may spark a "replacement demand" among owners of older iPhones, due to the significant improvements enabled by the A17 processor

They're right, you know. While using my iPhone 11 to comment on MacRumors, I thought I detected a picosecond of lag when I opened up the emoji picker. 😤 Clearly only the new 3nm chips can fix this, and I'll have to upgrade as soon as humanly possible. :apple:
 
Apple can’t win.

What’s important is not clock rates, battery life, and so on. It’s whether there’s some new functionality tied to the A17 that previous CPUs did not allow.

Are they expected to halt their processor architecture and node development? Doing so would cascade to the desktop and laptop CPUs, which rely on improvements to the A series.

When they offered the 14 and 14 Plus with a previous generation CPU, people *lost their minds*.

Damned if they do; damned if they don’t.
 
Maybe this will be the year we finally get true multi-tasking and the ability to run 2 apps at once in iOS 17..... Although in true Apple fashion it will be limited to the iphone 15 Pro Max... even if the 14PM is more than capable.
 
As long as my Xs Max still does everything I need and Apple is still supplying iOS updates/upgrades for it, I will not feel the need to upgrade my iPhone. But for those who want or need to upgrade their iPhones, enjoy your new phones!
 
I don't think the idea of a super-cycle works anymore. People will upgrade when they feel it's time to, and that's perfectly fine. With over a billion active iPhone users worldwide, even holding on to your phone for 4 years on average still means 250 million iPhones sold every year.

The problem right now isn't whether people are buying iPhones, but whether Apple is able to make enough to meet demand.
 
I mean, every iPhone yearly release inherently sparks new iPhone demand - the article headline really is meaningless. :rolleyes:
Most headlines are meaningless or worse. I always assume the headline is a lie. Then I read the article looking for the evidence of that lie. It's almost always there.
 
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I don't agree with this sparking "replacement demand" the chip could be 400x faster but iOS still lacks legitimate multitasking functionality. the system doesn't even allow background tasks besides music and maps. I could see maybe gaining another 5 hours of screen time would potentially incentive people to upgrade. definitely not the speed of the chip.
I agree. Battery life has hit the critical "all-day" mark when you can just charge it when you sleep, and I agree that "faster" by itself doesn't moves the needle on day to day usability.

On the other hand, if they build in features that leverage that additional speed, and the 15 Pro can suddenly do things previous phones couldn't, then that could become something people will upgrade for.
 
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Give me a proper OS

iOS is, for its purpose.

that can use the large screen and has access to the terminal and file system.

MS tried that with WinCE, for the file system, and it was a bloody mess as far as usability.

It's powerful enough to be an entire computer, so give us the option to use it as one.

It depends on what you define as use it as one. The iPhone with iOS can do what most users do with a computer - email, web, shop, etc.

If you make an Ultra and it comes with Mac OS so that I can plug it into a 4k monitor and use it with a mouse and keyboard to do regular MacOS things (and with iOS "mode" for commuting / bed use, etc) then I will order it the moment it goes on sale...

Others have tried this and failed.

...and then promptly duck away from the airborne porcine hordes...

I agree that isn't happening.

Apple filed some patents a while ago of doing something like that. Basically using the iPhone to dock into other devices. Like an iMac “shell” or a laptop “shell” whereas the shells would basically turn it into a full fledged computer by adding bigger screen, physical keyboards, pointing devices, ports, additional storage etc. I think Samsung also experimented with it but it didn’t take off. Withe the increase in power now of the iPhones I think it still might be worth a look although even though Apple always denies it, they would be afraid of it canibilizing full computer sales.

Here's the problem:

People would expect it to perform like a real computer, with graphics, video, calculation speeds like a Mac; as well as having enough storage to hold their work.

The A series chip is nowhere near as powerful as the M series powering Macs. Thermals could also be an issue under load, resulting in throttling and even further reducing performance. You'd wind up with either a slow Mac or a MacOS Lite which people would complain was crippled due to some vast conspiracy by Apple and Tim Cook.

Then there is the issue of battery life. I doubt the iPhone's battery could handle the load of being used as a computer so one of the key advantages, portability, is lost since it would not be usable as a laptop.


You could make a dock with increased storage, GPU, etc but the price would quickly approach a Mac while not being s powerful. In the end, it wouldn't cannibalize sales but just be another Pippen.
 
For Mac, I get that this is a big deal. The more power the better for my laptop. But what are these 'next-gen capabilities' going to be for iPhone?

My iPhone 12 Pro Max's battery already lasts all day. And I can't remember anything where I wanted it to be faster really.
 
Assuming Apple does not “spend” any of the extra power gains, should I interpret “35% power efficiency improvement” to be a 35% boost in battery life over previous 5nm based iPhones?
 
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