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iPhone 15 Pro's Next-Gen Chip Capabilities Expected to Spark Upgrade Demand Among Current iPhone Owners

I don’t see how type c makes things easier. You still need multiple blocks and cables to charge multiple devices at a time unless you have a dual input block. If you use one block and one cable for everything, which charger block are you using?
 
Keness said:
I don't think it is a feeling of the phone being "slow" so much as an awareness that the phone in hand is getting pretty long in the tooth and therefore the enhancements and upgrades take on an outsized degree of significance.

At least, that would be my guess as to why we still see super-cycle upgrades now and then at points of fairly significant technological improvement.

I fall into this category, because I have a 12 Pro Max, and it is still great, flawlessly unscratched or anything else that would make me "tired" of it, and the battery still lasts a long time. That said, it's a TWELVE... The phone coming out is a FIFTEEN... Three whole generations of improvements... (At least, this is what is going round and round in my brain, and my wallet always sheepishly follows along and does whatever my brain says.)
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but that’s a normal upgrade cycle. Not a massive rush to upgrade
 
WiiDSmoker said:
Nobody [gross majority] is thinking their phone is slow anymore to trigger a mass upgrade.
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bollman said:
Can't say I ever felt the need for more power in my iPhone 13 and the battery last well over a day even with what I consider heavy use which is good enough and then some.
It would need be on a totally new level for me to even consider replacing my iPhone 13. 35% is not going to convince me to replace my phone. Nice to have, sure, but not an argument to replace a fully working phone that does what I need it to do with ease.
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Pay closer attention to this part of the article…
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Apple's upcoming iPhone 15 Pro models may spark a "replacement demand" among owners of older iPhones, due to the significant improvements enabled by the A17 processor, Apple's first iPhone chip based on TSMC's first-generation 3-nanometer process.
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*OLDER* iPhones.
This article is absolutely not talking about people who just upgraded to the 13 or 14 series.
It’s talking about the people like me still on the 12 and 12 mini, whose battery life is dropping even after a battery replacement and who are starting to notice the limits.
It’s the people still on the 11 or below, who are finally starting to feel that 3GB of RAM ceiling and are still on 750 PLCD displays and without 5G.
It’s for the people who purchased the iPhone X on launch, and haven’t seen a reason to upgrade since. That phone is already five years old, almost 6.
They’re talking about the hold-outs who are still using iPhones with homebuttons and big foreheads who will probably be losing software support soon unless they opted for one of the new SE versions.
So again, just like when the MacBook gets updated, the iMac gets updated, literally when anything gets updated, it’s almost never aimed at the people who literally *just* upgraded last year.
 
aue123 said:
I don't agree with this sparking "replacement demand" the chip could be 400x faster but iOS still lacks legitimate multitasking functionality. the system doesn't even allow background tasks besides music and maps. I could see maybe gaining another 5 hours of screen time would potentially incentive people to upgrade. definitely not the speed of the chip.
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Dead wrong. Any app can request background processing. Inform yourself before you misinform others. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/backgroundtasks
 
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unobtainium said:
35% efficiency improvement is massive. The Pro Max will be an absolute battery beast.
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Efficiency improvements are always welcome of course but don’t equate the 35% improvement in chip efficiency to an actual 35% overall improvement. The vast majority of power is used for the screen.
 
Hopefully Smarter said:
People update their phones when they think it is time because their old one no longer serves their need. Only a small percentage chase specs.
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True, although there are surges here and there. One example, the iPhone 6/6 Plus due to pent up demand for larger screen iPhone. Usually a surge pop out when there's a design change, so it is not too farfetched to expect one for the iPhone 15 Pro.
 
Lakersfan74 said:
I don’t see how type c makes things easier. You still need multiple blocks and cables to charge multiple devices at a time unless you have a dual input block. If you use one block and one cable for everything, which charger block are you using?
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Just charge your devices at different times.
Dual charger for phone and watch, same USB-C cable for MacBook.
My phone and watch get charged overnight, computer usually gets charged every three days or so, AirPods get charged like once a week…
So while yes, at home, it’s probably going to be easier to have several cables, traveling with one cable and one brick will become a reality.
Also, finally gets rid of the “ do you have an iPhone or Android charger” question, which is always a good thing.
 
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And as always “supply constraints” for Pro Max Models into December.

The 120hz in my 13 Pro Max was my main reason to upgrade from my 11 Pro Max. I really wish apple would get rid of the telephoto lens on the Pro’s and fit more battery. Touch ID would be nice.
 
Interested to see what this does for Macs (and iPad Pro’s) when M series chips are made on this process.

For iPhone I personally don’t really care. Performance is already good enough. Unless software is developed that takes advantage of this performance increase (or unless we see great battery improvements, which I think for most people is probably the most important factor)
 
MayaUser said:
i bet there are still a lot of people with some old iPhone SE/7/8 out there
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Mother in law has a 6s. She's probably going to buy a new 14 pro today, and I've been debating convincing her to hold off for the 3nm chip and usb-c in the iPhone 15 pro.
 
Sciomar said:
It's a new iPhone and has the descriptor "Pro" in it, of course there will be a large demand. Society is almost fully trained to stay on the annual upgrade cycle, and happy to sign on to the payment plans and tacked on upgrade fees.
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Society has never been on a yearly upgrade cycle, and the average length of time between individuals upgrading is growing, not shortening. It's pushing three years now.

My 13 Pro is working absolutely perfect. I plan to keep it for, at least, three more cycles. Preferably until it loses support.
 
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compwiz1202 said:
Yea get Touch on Power already and have both on one device like Android has for years.
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Android doesn’t have “both.” Android, just like iPhones, can only have 1 secure biometrics. Apple chose FaceID while most Android stick with fingerprint scanner. That face unlock on Android is not considered secure biometrics.
 
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WiiDSmoker said:
but that’s a normal upgrade cycle. Not a massive rush to upgrade
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Maybe. But I feel like the 14 was much more "boring" than the 15 is shaping up to be. So many people like myself may have skipped 14. So then there's the double whammy of the 15 being (potentially) a fairly significant upgrade, with some redesign and solid chip bump, and the phone we currently have being just that much older.

It seems every so often there is an upgrade cycle that is bigger than average. It used to be every two years back when the subsidy situation was more clear-cut. Seems a little more sporadic now. But I get the FEELING that the 15 is going to be one. Just my opinion, of course, but I really feel like it is.
 
aue123 said:
because average user requests Dev privileges to run apps in the background?
could you be anymore ignorant? you must be one of the people who complains about iOS beta bugs thinking it's official release.. get out of here nerd.
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You've completely misinterpreted everything. The developer builds their app to use background tasks, and the user benefits. Again, please inform yourself.
 
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