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iPhone 15 Redesign Tops Users' Wish Lists, But 'Mini' Form Factor Still Has Its Fans
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Seems possible to re-tool the 13 mini production line to create a iPhone 15 Pro mini…. Maybe the name should change.
I believe this could price above the 14 Plus and sell just fine. A lot of people want premium features and cameras, but also want a smaller size. The 12/13 mini is a great choice but some people prefer the camera configurations that the Pro brings.
Further differentiation in the future between the Pro/non Pro models makes it easier to justify a new model Pro. They currently cannot manufacture enough of the Pro models currently available. It’s not exactly this simple, but if they had made a 14 pro mini, retooling the 13 mini line could have helped make more Pro models available overall, as the assembly differences would be trivial.
I believe this could price above the 14 Plus and sell just fine. A lot of people want premium features and cameras, but also want a smaller size. The 12/13 mini is a great choice but some people prefer the camera configurations that the Pro brings.
Further differentiation in the future between the Pro/non Pro models makes it easier to justify a new model Pro. They currently cannot manufacture enough of the Pro models currently available. It’s not exactly this simple, but if they had made a 14 pro mini, retooling the 13 mini line could have helped make more Pro models available overall, as the assembly differences would be trivial.
They should return to iPhone 4/5 look. That means matte stainless steel frame (not that hideous glossy monstrosity) and circular buttons. That would be the s**t.
DI is a gimmick. I think the best iPhone will be the one that is all screen. That is few years away though.
Oh yeah, I would love to get Red Pro. The colours on the Pro lines are always so boring.
I took the purple one but thats only because everything else was so boring. Wish Apple would recognise that even Pro line could benefit from more interesting colours (especially the RED)
I took the purple one but thats only because everything else was so boring. Wish Apple would recognise that even Pro line could benefit from more interesting colours (especially the RED)
That's a tired and incorrect myth trotted out all the time. Actually, what Apple learned the hard way was that their product strategy for the iPhone 14, which didn't include a "mini", backfired. The iPhone 14 and 14 plus had worse sales than the 13 "mini" did.
The information mirrors multiple other reports that suggest the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have not met Apple's sales expectations. Shortly after launch, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that demand for the two devices is "lackluster," with worse pre-order results than the third-generation iPhone SE and the iPhone 13 mini. He went as far as to claim that "Apple's product segmentation strategy for standard models fails this year" and Apple is believed to have shelved plans to increase production of the two devices. Display analyst Ross Young says panel orders for the iPhone 14 are down 38 percent versus the iPhone 13 at the same time last year, while in the resale market, the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus are losing their value twice as fast as the iPhone 13 mini and iPhone 13 last year.
The only thing keeping me from getting a iPhone mini is not having the pro level cameras. I would love a small phone again. Just went from the 11Pro to the 14Pro and even it got bigger than the 11Pro.
Things could be refined and better materials used for higher end models. But I don’t see a need for a different look or shape to the lineup.
My favorite design was the iPhone 4/4S. We now have square edges back and I’m happy. A titanium band like the old alloy band would be nice. But shape is perfect.
And let the ones who like it have their Mini back. Tiny things need lovin’ too!!!
My favorite design was the iPhone 4/4S. We now have square edges back and I’m happy. A titanium band like the old alloy band would be nice. But shape is perfect.
And let the ones who like it have their Mini back. Tiny things need lovin’ too!!!
Not buying another iPhone any time soon unless there’s a “mini” form factor though Apple has been blowing it lately with software so who knows if I’d buy one anyways. Homepod for instance is a complete mess in a home with multiple users, barely functional and then the recent surge of ads in the App Store…no longer a premium experience
Notch or island doesn't really bother me either way. I wouldn't call the island a gimmick so much as Apple's flavor of a cutout.
The physical size of the device is much more important to me.
I like the current form factor a lot. Just wish the back was aluminum instead of glass, and there wasn’t a camera bump. Also +1 for the mini, still rocking my 12 mini and don’t plan on buying another iPhone until there’s a small option again
The designs are cool and all, but I put a case on three seconds after I take it out of the box.
Just make the screen beautiful. It's all I see anyway.
Just make the screen beautiful. It's all I see anyway.
And no dimmingA redesigned mini without the notch (or the dynamic island) and all the pro features would be a dream come true!
Lol yes, when we sit we don’t have to take our phones out of our pockets like big phone folk. Also many of us small phone folk aren’t constantly on our phones—one of the reasons we got a small phone!
I’d love that for precise audio recording (Bluetooth has latency), also to have a wired option when my Bluetooth headphones run out of battery. But there is too much keeping Apple from bringing it back (better waterproofing, slightly more space for battery/components, and probably especially motivating AirPods sales).
They are treating financing the same. Soon the term for cellphones will outlast the hardware
What are cars up to now. 84? 96? more?One redesign that is long overdue are the rear cameras. It's at the point that they are taking over the back of the phone. They are starting to look like a tumor.
A titanium frame will drive up the price by at least $100, maybe $150-200. There won’t be a redesign for the iPhone 15/15 Plus/15 Pro/15 Ultra. The 15 will probably get the dynamic island and not much more. The 15 Pro gets USB-C (as all 15 models do) and the 15 Ultra will probably get an exclusive periscope zoom lens to justify the new Ultra moniker. The only thing Apple could do is make the sides curved/rounded again which wouldn’t be much of a redesign. At this point, the next major “rethinking” of the iPhone design would be to make it a folding design, following in Samsung’s footsteps. That would add a higher price tier for the iPhone so that would make Tim happy.
The hard way? I would expect nearly every android manufacturer wished they had the sales volume of the mini.
I really hope iPhone 14 figures are very ordinary because they are just a revamped 13.
I suspect though, that what has happened is that at the lower end people bought cheaper 13s with the same chip, but unfortunately a lot of people were upsold to the 14 pros and the newer SOC that otherwise would have just gone the 14.
I suspect Apple is quite happy with that and the higher margins that go with it.
I know I'm certainly not buying anything larger than what Apple calls a "mini" (still somewhat large, all things considered). Ideally, I'd prefer one without the camera tumor, but overall size is most important.