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I want curved/rounded edges back. I test drove the 13 series and they just aren’t comfortable to hold compared to the 11 series designs. The edges dig into the skin and I hate it.
 
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I got the 12PM in 2020 and a friend got the mini. I hated my pro max for the size and weight after a few months. My friend convinced me the mini was perfect and I finally got a 13 mini on sale back in June (I begrudgingly stuck with the PM for 18 months).

Safe to say I’m fully converted. I had started to feel like Apple products were a bit stale and less exciting. But the mini brought and old school Apple nostalgia back. I love it. I will hold onto it for as long as I can.
 
Small iPhone fans are a very small group of very vocal people. You can’t go by what is posted on social media or forms like this as a judge to what people want. Apple learned that the hard way.
not necessarily true. we could on the other hand say that the large phone preference are a very small group of very vocal folks.

“small” folks experience this same problem in the fashion industry that make clothing mostly for folks who are 6 feet tall, and yet there is a population of folks with disposable income who do not fit in those “average” sizes favored by the fashion industry. it is as though “smaller” folks are punished for being small.

i believe it makes good business sense for apple to add to its iphone lineup a mini model with pro features 🤞🏽
 
Please take note how TOO EXPENSIVE has double the amount of responses as TOO BIG in reference to the iPhone 14 Plus.

People don't want smaller phones. People want cheaper phones, and those are going to be smaller. How Macrumors creates this takeaway that people want smaller phones, from this data that says otherwise, and 2 years of poor sales of Apple's mini phone...is beyond me. Logic and data do not support the premise or title.
 
Small iPhone fans are a very small group of very vocal people. You can’t go by what is posted on social media or forms like this as a judge to what people want. Apple learned that the hard way.
Apple did a good job of ignoring them for a long time, but then decided to give in and indeed found out the hard way that it wasn't worth it.
This person does
And you are part of the very vocal, and very small group of people.
 
If there were an iPhone 14 Mini Pro, I would own one now.

I will probably eventually break down and buy an iPhone 14 Pro, but I haven't yet. Or maybe I'll wait to see what happens with the iPhone 15 series. We'll see.
 
Just do something different with the camera bump (besides just making it bigger!) and give me usb-c and I'll be happy.

Bonus points if the iPhone 15 Pro Max/Ultra can be lighter than the iPhone 14 Pro Max with the same SIZE battery (not battery life, battery size). The current weight is acceptable but lighter would be nice.
 
I always said it is pointless to buy another phone if it looks the same as the one you got. I welcome a redesign and a larger display, but I believe it won’t happen until the iPhone 16 pro max.
 
This Christmas I bought a replacement battery for my mums iPhone SE (1.Gen) and a new USB-C Lightning cable for my dad. 🛷🎄🎅 *hohoho*
 
That's a tired and incorrect myth trotted out all the time. Actually, what Apple learned the hard way was that their product strategy for the iPhone 14, which didn't include a "mini", backfired. The iPhone 14 and 14 plus had worse sales than the 13 "mini" did.


The information mirrors multiple other reports that suggest the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have not met Apple's sales expectations. Shortly after launch, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that demand for the two devices is "lackluster," with worse pre-order results than the third-generation iPhone SE and the iPhone 13 mini. He went as far as to claim that "Apple's product segmentation strategy for standard models fails this year" and Apple is believed to have shelved plans to increase production of the two devices. Display analyst Ross Young says panel orders for the ‌iPhone 14‌ are down 38 percent versus the ‌iPhone 13‌ at the same time last year, while in the resale market, the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus are losing their value twice as fast as the iPhone 13 mini and iPhone 13 last year.
Saying people want larger phones is a myth because they didn't buy the latest large phone is silly. It's not a myth. So many sales figures back it up as fact on both the iPhone and android side. I'm not anti small phone or anything like that. Buy what makes you happy. I'm just stating the fact that the vast majority of people want larger phones.
 
I like the current form factor a lot. Just wish the back was aluminum instead of glass, and there wasn’t a camera bump. Also +1 for the mini, still rocking my 12 mini and don’t plan on buying another iPhone until there’s a small option again

Wireless charging doesn't work through aluminum though.
Of course they could just do it like google and make a cutout for the wireless charging and cover that part with plastic. (Or glass) But that just adds complexity to production.
 
Just do something different with the camera bump (besides just making it bigger!) and give me usb-c and I'll be happy.

Bonus points if the iPhone 15 Pro Max/Ultra can be lighter than the iPhone 14 Pro Max with the same SIZE battery (not battery life, battery size). The current weight is acceptable but lighter would be nice.
We will make the bump longer for periscope and to show you have the Ultra - Check!



USB-C at USB2 speeds - and you have to buy from Apple or warrantee voided - Check!



The return of the plastic body iPhone to reduce weight - Check!



Carbon Fibre - 1000 dollar premium on the Ultra - Check!



And for me:



Sim card tray option - at 300 dollar premium - Check!
 
Its quite interesting as Amazon are continually sell out of their iPhone 13 mini stock as soon as they are replenished. It seems people are buying them as their is no current 14 Mini model. Apple have not made any statements on the Mini, which just creates uncertainty also. Anyways its good to see that a % people do want to see the Mini back in the line up instead of the Plus model. At least the Mini actually offers something unique in its compact size and form factor.
 
I don’t like the phrase “complete redesign”. Sounds redundant. What would that even be? A round phone?

It’s like when Apple calls macOS a complete redesign and the Dock, the menubar and the desktop are there as always, just slightly different. That’s not “complete” to me, it’s an iteration of a previous design.

Just say “redesign”, it’s fine.
 
That's the thing. What you described is generally developed markets, and as you implied, growth is quite stagnant with people are upgrading less often. Smartphone market penetration and growth are mainly in emerging markets, where people are buying smartphones as their first, or only "computer." And as such, the demand is for larger screen. As that's where the growth market is, that's where companies will tailor their products to match.
Which is fine, but why ignore a good solid market? Most of the people I know are fed up with Apple and the constant upgrades and failures to function.

The fact is phones are commodities. Apple keeps spending millions to convince people they are not, but they are.
 
Would love to see a new iPhone Mini with 16+ battery life and USB-C port.
 
Which is fine, but why ignore a good solid market? Most of the people I know are fed up with Apple and the constant upgrades and failures to function.

The fact is phones are commodities. Apple keeps spending millions to convince people they are not, but they are.
Apple didn’t totally ignore it. They still have a 13 mini on the lineup.
 
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