iPhone 15's USB-C Port Remains Limited to Lightning Speeds

[Applɘ Aꙅylum]

The basic Phone 15 series got really nice features which would be a big hit for those on the budget....


...until I just found out what just killed the excitement of buying was that USB-C on those poor basic iPhone series is its speed that remains limited to USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps!

Way to go, Apple.

 

[waquzy]

Wow! It should not be limited. This is unnecessary. Don't tell me Apple is doing this to be, "Environmentally friendly".

No. Apple is giving the middle finger to the stupid EU regulators! That’s what it’s all about and I’m with Apple on this one.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Not to be hyperbolical but that's a total disgrace 😂 I wonder how many generations they will keep stuck at a standard released in the year 2000. Yup just a quarter of a century ago.

I’m guessing it’ll be forever. Because, it doesn’t matter what year someone buys a cable in, if that cable doesn’t support the data transfer speeds the user wants, there’s nothing any device on either end can do to force the cable to support the data transfer speed.

 

[Torty]

As a 14 Pro Max owner this iPhone is a hard pass for me. During previous years there was always something that baited me to buy the latest and greatest. This year there is nothing - not even better battery life.

USB-C? 5x Zoom? 2x as fast neural engine? (Gives more features in future iOS updates)

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Wow! It should not be limited. This is unnecessary. Don't tell me Apple is doing this to be, "Environmentally friendly".

You mean Apple’s products should deliver 10Gb/s speed even over cables that aren’t capable of it? How would they even do that?

 

[MrRom92]

Well they ARE highlighting the features of the ENTIRE phone. It would be odd to refer to the camera capabilities while showing the USB-C port. Talk about the new action button while showing, NOT the action button, but the USB-C port.

The webpage scrolls, so they have room to show all of these things, and then some. Even when they do talk about the USB-C port, they don’t show the USB-C port.

 

[mongobongo]

I’m guessing it’ll be forever. Because, it doesn’t matter what year someone buys a cable in, if that cable doesn’t support the data transfer speeds the user wants, there’s nothing any device on either end can do to force the cable to support the data transfer speed.

What are you talking about? There are different cables that support different speeds. The iPhone 15 only supports USB-2 speeds, that's the disgrace. I'm no talking about the cables.

 

[teohyc]

No-one is using this port for data, ffs. I mean like twelve people maybe. The only thing 99% people do is plug in and charge.

Yeah, only because Apple does their best to make file transfer with cable difficult.

I would love to use cable to transfer xx GBs of videos which is so much faster and stable than AirDrop

 

[rellimie]

I think "malicious compliance" is a good description for this. But hey...the EU mandated it...people cheered for it. You wanted it...You got it...and ONLY that 😂

I like it. I'm very anti-mandate. So any way Apple or any company can do the bare minimum to comply with stupid laws is okay by me.

 

[iOS Geek]

I like it. I'm very anti-mandate. So any way Apple or any company can do the bare minimum to comply with stupid laws is okay by me.

Yeah I’m not really a fan of USB-C. Definitely don’t consider it a selling point or something to celebrate like some people are. So I got a laugh out of this one 😂

 

[Unregistered 4U]

The webpage scrolls, so they have room to show all of these things, and then some. Even when they do talk about the USB-C port, they don’t show the USB-C port.

That’s because they show a USB-C cable plugged into it. Which image would be more demonstrative to a user. A picture of a port with a description of what should be plugged into it, or the device actually plugged in showing what it does?

 

[sakurarain]

no surprise, typical apple style

 

[Naraxus]

Ofc. Leave to Apple to cheap out and do the bare minimum.

 

[thawk9455]

It take having support on the die to support faster speeds. They specifically pointed out that the NEW processor in the PRO has integrated components to support USB 3 speeds. Apple builds very customized chips, why would they include support for faster speeds in the processor if their devices weren't going to support it via Lightning anyway?

 

[DFZD]

It's okay. I don't think a lot of people data transfer that often from their phones.. its just carrying a separate charger that bugs us. And we can always buy the Pro series if we are so picky.. its just $200 more.

 

[teohyc]

That link is to the wrong item.

But why do we need to buy a Thunderbolt cable if the iPhone Pros do not support Thunderbolt? Was that an example since that's the only one capable of USB 3.1 that Apple sells?

I've been wanting the switch to USB-C since everything's moving towards that but this is the reason I don't like it. With USB 2.0, I could pick up any USB cable and it would work at that speeds. With 3.0, when it was new, we had to make sure it had the blue part. Here we are, what, 10 years later or so? I still can't grab a cable with a USB-C end and expect it to work at least at 3.0 speeds.

Maybe it will take another 10 years for that USB 2 to reach 3 because now it’s just used as a differentiating factor

 

[paradox00]

No-one is using this port for data, ffs. I mean like twelve people maybe. The only thing 99% people do is plug in and charge.

I mean if you make a port slow enough, no one will use it for data. That's not really proof of anything.

 

[teohyc]

It take having support on the die to support faster speeds. They specifically pointed out that the NEW processor in the PRO has integrated components to support USB 3 speeds. Apple builds very customized chips, why would they include support for faster speeds in the processor if their devices weren't going to support it via Lightning anyway?

Didn’t know Apple still makes ancient chips that can only handle USB 2.

USB 2 vs 3 more likely just used as a differentiating factor.

 

[Mac Fly (film)]

I mean if you make a port slow enough, no one will use it for data. That's not really proof of anything.

We now need a RCT for the charging port on iPhones yeah. Give up now.

 

[BeatCrazy]

USB-C? 5x Zoom? 2x as fast neural engine? (Gives more features in future iOS updates)

I don’t think I’ve ever plugged in my 14 Pro. Wireless charging all the time. Is there something I’m supposed to be doing today via the Neutral engine that is painfully slow on a 14 Pro?

Yes the zoom is nice. And I’m on the IUP so I’ll get a 15 Pro, but there’s really no killer features this year.

 

[tuc]

There is a shocking lack of photos of the new USB-C port anywhere in apples marketing for the 15 Pro on their website. Why are they so reluctant to show hole?

well, there was a giant close-up in the video presentation

 

[racer1441]

The bait for you is the pro model.

Bad bait. I'm a 13 pro max user and will be going 15 plus. Nothing great in the pro this time to make me feel warm and fuzzy about it.

 

[jclardy]

Calling them lightning speeds is generous, considering they are USB 2.0 speeds from a spec released in the year 2000. A 23 year old wire transfer protocol.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

What are you talking about? There are different cables that support different speeds. The iPhone 15 only supports USB-2 speeds, that's the disgrace. I'm no talking about the cables.

You are correct, I was looking at the ProMax specs, not the regular iPhone specs.

 

[MrRom92]

well, there was a giant close-up in the video presentation

Yes, I think it’s interesting that we need to freeze frame a 2 hour video to find a photo of it. Since it’s such a big feature of the device it is just shocking to me that apple would not prominently display it practically anywhere in their marketing.