iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus Rumored to Feature Increased 8GB RAM and Wi-Fi 6E Support

Samsung S24 releasing Jan 17 has Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 having WiFi 7 support but will it be activated if drains lots of power ?
 
Tim: I bought a farm to help with the new RAMs we need for the next phone.
VP: That’s great we need space-
VP2: Umm wait just to clarify Tim.
Tim: Yes we need a farm where we can raise the rams.
VP2: Wait we need random access memory pieces at 8gb.
VP: Wait did he think the animal?
VP2: Oh you weren’t here when we needed more servers for iCloud…so many server farms.
Tim: Next on the agenda, bitcoin farming. Eureka I know a farm guy.
VP2: WRONG FARM TIM!
 
cyb3rdud3 said:
It does make me laugh, all those requests for Wi-Fi 7. How many of you actually have a network that can take advantage of that? Have a broadband cable or fibre connection that actually supports the theoretical speeds? Use websites on your phone that need such speeds and can provide them?

In what real-world situation is a 2.4Gbps Wi-Fi connection on your phone not enough? Or is everyone now all of a sudden, having 8Gbps internet connections and want the full 5.8Gbps from WiFi7 on your phone?

Sure, I'd love the latest and fastest as much as anyone, but come on. At these speeds that are available already it is plenty for most, and way faster than most peoples broadband connections, let alone crappy ISP routers and home Wi-Fi can support.
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Nope, what's funny is how Apple according to this rumour will not be implementing WiFi 7 in a wireless communications device costing from 1000 dollars, or more if the price increases happen, whilst its direct competition all offer it on their devices costing less. Some are selling devices now with it.
You may as well argue Apple shouldn't include 5G because it's good enough on a thousand dollar phone right?

WiFi 7 handles congestion MUCH better, it's not all about speed. Apple has been dragging its feet on WiFi adoption, which considering it was one of the first company's to bring WiFi to the consumer market is funny.
 
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MilaM said:
I think it's less about bandwith and more about how the devices perform in very densely populated areas with sometimes dozens of AP competing for limited airtime.

But I agree, if you live in suburbia or even a rural area, the benefits of Wifi 6 or even 7 are rather limited. In these scenarios I think range is much more important.
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True Wi-Fi 7 does provide additional channels, and yet even today most people use their ISP router on their ISP set channel.

But dare I say, are those very densely populated areas the areas where people would afford to have their Wi-Fi 7 network at home?

I'd also argue that on the three bands with 109 channels (if I calculated correctly) 6E leaves plenty of scope for someone to find a clean enough band/channel.

And we are talking about a personal electronic device, a phone, here. Not some kind of eSports competitive rig, home working surgeon, or algorithmic trading farm :)
 
Pezimak said:
Nope, what's funny is how Apple according to this rumour will not be implementing WiFi 7 in a wireless communications device costing form 1000 dollars, or more if the price increases happen, whilst its direct competition all offer it on their devices costing less. Some are selling devices now with it.
You may as well argue Apple shouldn't include 5G because it's good enough on a thousand dollar phone right?

WiFi 7 handles congestion MUCH better, it's not all about speed. Apple has been dragging its feet on WiFi adoption, which considering it was one of the first company's to bring WiFi to the consumer market is funny.
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If you are in that 0.1% that truly will measurably benefit from WiFi7 congestion handling vs WiFi6E and have all your Wi-Fi networks current and up-to-date with Wi-Fi 7, then yes the iPhone 16 might not be for you. Still, I'm not buying it as an argument as that would mean that right now today most of us are struggling on our phone, which is absolutely nonsense. And it's a phone…

Sure, I like the latest technology, but it has been for a long time in the category of good and fast enough already. Most people would benefit more from sorting their Wi-Fi networks out and moving away from the ISP gear to getting a phone that supports this new standard. I bet that by the time the phone is obsolete, the majority of homes, let alone professional organisations, won't even have a Wi-Fi 6 network, let alone Wi-Fi 6E and definitely not Wi-Fi 7.

The comparison vs android devices is just your typical spec tick list, android devices are good at throwing everything at it, early in a lifecycle, but doesn't even work that well, or isn't certified yet, or drains the battery. But yes, one can say they have it.

Anyway just my opinion I guess...
 
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havaloc said:
I would guess that 2gb of that will be holding a LLM for a smarter Siri and I'd guess that would be a selling point of the iPhone 16.
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I hope one can disable that feature as I have no plans to use Siri -- She'll always be behind the curve. I'd rather have that extra 2GB for useful apps.
 
I've been upgrading every 2 or 3 years and currently have a 14 Pro, upgraded from an 11 Pro before. Looks like the 16 Pro *might* be enough of a jump for me, will just have to wait and see...
 
So my phone is going to have the same amount of RAM as a Pro level laptop… I’m not sure if that is good for the iPhone or bad or the Mac. But according to Tim, that’s technically 16GB of RAM 🧐
 
Cap
13 and 14 were 4gb
15 and 16 will be 6gb
Pros won’t have same Os’es

Best Apple will do is keep same 6gb in 16 and throw in the A17 from 15 pro
 
dampfnudel said:
I guess we’ll see a bump up to 10GB first. I don’t know if Samsung and other manufacturers have ever configured their phones with 10GB because I’ve only seen 12GB listed as far as I can remember.
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I've never seen 10GB RAM. I've seen 8GB, 12GB, 16GB. If I remember correctly, OnePlus' new OnePlus 12 will have 24GB RAM in select markets.
 
Hkfan45 said:
Confused as to why I would buy a Pro then.
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Same reason as always. Better camera system and ProMotion. But rumors of ProMotion coming to base iPhone models, starting with iPhone 17, is pretty strong so the only real reason left will be camera system. This would be the right time to introduce a foldable iPhone ("iPhone Ultra").
 
GuruZac said:
Given the lack of multitasking on the iPhone with current iOS, 8GB seems more than enough. However, I am still perplexed why Apple thinks split screen multitasking shouldn’t be on iPhone, when it’s been on iPad Mini, with far less CPU and RAM for many years.
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Multitasking on iPhone is supposed to mean being able to switch from one app to another and back again without the first one having to completely reload its state.

And I don’t know whether it’s the physical RAM or the way it’s used, but no matter how much RAM any iPhone has ever had, all it takes is loading one media application and every other app is dumped out of RAM and has to reload when opened again.

That’s what I’d like to see them fix, and that’s also likely why there is no split screen multitasking. It can’t even handle single screen multitasking.

Maybe if they’d bring page file support to the iPhone it would help. Right now it’s the only OS on Earth that doesn’t seem capable of running two apps simultaneously with 6GB of RAM.
 
I’m at a loss why I need WiFi speeds faster than my cable speeds.

I suppose I should be throwing Library of Congress sized files around my network to justify faster….
 
Michael Scrip said:
How many people upgrade their iPhone because a new WIFI standard is introduced?

I hope Tim tells them to get a new WIFI 7 router too. They're probably using the crappy router from their cable company.

:p
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No matter how blatantly anti-consumer Tim Cook's greedy actions are, there are plenty of Apple consumers who will defend his greedy anti-consumer decisions.
 
Misuteri said:
I’m at a loss why I need WiFi speeds faster than my cable speeds.
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Speed isn't the only benefit of WIFI 7

It can offer lower latency, wider channels, less congestion, less interference, etc.

But yes... most people won't notice a difference. They're still using WIFI 5 routers from their internet provider.

:p
 
Apple: WiFi 7 in 2024?
Customers: Yes, WiFi 7 (802.11be) is newer and faster than WiFi 6 (802.11ax).
Apple: Will it be cheaper to use WiFi 7?
Customers: No, but for $1000+ iPhones we should expect WiFi 7...
Apple: Nah, you will still get WiFi 6. Now go buy iPhone 16.
Customers: Nah, we already have iPhones with WiFi 6, it was released several years ago...
Apple: But we still expect you to buy iPhone 16 with WiFi 6.

And some people still defend Apple?
 
Infodataset said:
Its ironic that base iphone have the same ram with macbook now. Nice try apple, your 'ecosystem' is really integrated
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Yes. And not just the MacBook Air line....even the same RAM as the latest base M3 14" MacBook "Pro." Apple is pathetically greedy on base RAM / storage.
 
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