I’m tired of every single product in existence implementing or adding AI to it. I don’t want this, and I certainly don’t want 50 variations.
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iPhone 16 Demand Dips Among Teens, But Interest in Apple Intelligence Could Still Spur Upgrades
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No teen is going to want ip16 because of AI. No old people (aka my parents) are going to want ip16 because of AI. Yuppies don’t want it. Millennials don’t want it. GenZ’s don’t. GenX certainly don’t want it. I don’t “want” it. I’m slightly AI curious, but there’s already 10.000 iOS features I’m not using and I REALLY hate Siri already…except for setting alarm or turning on torch.
People who buy the ip16 for AI are the same people who bought Vision to streamline their work life balance…
People who buy the ip16 for AI are the same people who bought Vision to streamline their work life balance…
No one gives a damn about Apple Intelligence, trust me
I'm just sceptical Apple haven't even got Siri / Amazon haven't got Alexa to a place where it understands my voice, let alone produce anything smart.
Apple Intelligence is a knee jerk panic reaction to ChatGPT which other than the adhoc work use (if you sit at a desk) even that hubbub has peaked.
The article is about YoY changes, and it states that the average iPhone is three years old. So if anything, maybe they are more satisfied with the 13 than with the 12.
Most kids live at home now, even into their 30s, especially in the UK.
They have more disposable income than high earners renting/mortgage.
Some popular brands like Flannels in the UK have done really well over the last few years selling luxury fashion (Armani, Prada, etc) to these live-with-my-parents kids.
They didn’t say it was a bad thing?
I agree that diminishing demand in new iPhones is a good thing.
AI is also factually wrong in several cases. I have proven it many times with programming. And the only reason AI does the job it can is by taking other people’s work. You think AI tools will be functional when true artists stop creating their work?
What Apple offers is not cutting-edge technology, but integration. Yes, you might find a stand-alone app but what we want is for Aple's upcoming AI to in integrated into (say) Apple's Photos or the email app. I want Siri to be able to find that photo of "Mary and her dog I took in 2016, maybe in San Diego, CA". I do not want to have to download a special "AI-Photo-Search" app from a company that might go bust in 2 years.
And while you might try and download those "few dozen" apps, they will all be different and not work together.
I have two teens (US), and one with a phone. Her and her friends don't care about iMessage at all and use Snapchat.
The 16 Pro is a pretty sleepy upgrade coming from pretty much any other iPhone. I only upgraded because my company gave me a stipend to buy a phone and it's mine after a year.
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Lots of people are missing this. ChatGPT can't summarize my notifications for me. CoPilot can't find photos I took when I was in school. Gemini can't find that podcast my brother sent me a week ago.
Yes, third parties have LLMs. But Apple Intelligence is not just an LLM, it is a practical and useful implementation of the technology.
Apple's domination of the US teenager market is remarkable. Here in Canada, as well as in Europe, most young people I know have Android, including one who recently switched away from Apple devices. The only person I know who switched to Apple is my 53-year old girlfriend, and I feel that was the right decision in her case. Personally I think both iOS and Android are great products, and I've recommended either one or the other depending on the type of person/user. Same for macOS and Windows.
I think Apple will have a hard time selling their iPhones in Europe. It’s more expensive as in the USA and competitors bring so much more to market at a decent price compared to Apple. I think (and hope) Apple will go downhill from here. By the time they’ve introduced their AI (and it was Apple’s choice not to release it in Europe) competitors already have implemented it and probably will have their next generation AI ready.
Using common sense it’s not hard to see the iPhone 16 line up isn’t selling well. It doesn’t offer anything special. And the thing that would set it apart I only hear complaints about.
Saying that mobile phones plateaud and there isn’t much Apple can do to make it better makes me laugh.
How about some decent RAM, 120 hz screen refresh, better cameras.
All the areas Apple was king has been lost to competitors. I really like to see their financial sheets 31 October. China is the place where people are more technically interested and want the latest and greatest. If Apple loses marketshare in China, the rest of the world will follow.
Even though the internet likes to perpetuate the idea that everyone is financially strapped, there are plenty of people out there who aren’t and will buy their kids whatever they ask for.
Part of it is that complaints usually come from people with something to complain about. People that aren't struggling financially won't preach that from the rooftops.
Well, I'm no teenager, but seems to me there's very little difference between the iPhones of the 13th, 14th, 15th & 16th generations. The only reason I see to upgrade is degraded batteries in the 13, maybe the 14. But with a replacement battery done for $69 (had mine done this August), it's hard to justify spending $1,000 or more for a phone that's essentially the same as the one I have at this point. Think I'll wait until something significant changes. I have Chat GPT if I want to solve climate change, or to ask why Plato pretends to be Socrates in "The Republic."
Nobody using common sense, who cared about facts and data, would make such a statement. You simply can't extrapolate from yourself to an entire globe of people. Even this article states that 87% of teens currently own an iPhone and 88% expect their next phone to be an iPhone.
Good to hear that Apple's iPhones are serving you well, even 3-4 years after purchase. That's a good thing.
I mean, I think a majority of consumers are doing 36 month lease terms on these phones through their carrier, and some as well take advantage of trade in credits and promo credits over that 36 month period. If they got an iphone 14 or 15, they still have 1-2 years on the lease (which will have to paid off before upgrade) and the potential to lose out on credits if they pay off the device early. Its no wonder people aren't upgrading. If I want to upgrade my 15 pro max, I will have to pay over $800 to upgrade. I don't have that kind of money laying around, especially not when the phone almost looks the same.
We try to keep up. Finally we can get to teach at a higher level and focus on content rather than form like grammar. We also remove phone/internet access at exams and give tougher synthesis and problem solving questions that AI does not excel at. Or we can get really mean and have an oral examination.
Only fools thinks the correct answer is important for learning. The road to the solution is where the learning takes place.
I'm glad to hear it. My brief stint in Education was before things like ChatGPT really hit the mainstream, so I didn't have to worry about it too much then. I'm more worried about the critical thinking ability of the next generation than their memorization.