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"I don't regularly upgrade my phone because it takes a couple hours a year" has to be the most first-world excuse I've ever heard

In the family we’ve iPhones 14 and 15 and they’re practically the same. Do you upgrade your tv every year as well? To me it’s a waste of time and money and an example of first world excess. But you do you.
 
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My XS Max has been working just fine for me. But I think I might upgrade to a 16 Pro Max this year.
 
I don't see how you can since I didn't even make all that bold of a claim really, just stating objectively general observations about industry trends for the most part. But you do you, babe.
It's bold to say that you're 'stating objectively' observations. Clearly it is subjective, as most people don't consider new colors a new look or design, babe.
 
In the family we’ve iPhones 14 and 15 and they’re practically the same. Do you upgrade your tv every year as well? To me it’s a waste of time and money and an example of first world excess. But you do you.
Of course not. What a silly comparison. A 75" TV isn't exactly the same as a pocket-size device you take everywhere you go, nor is the core technology that powers it on the same kind of predictable cadence of significant upgrades like that of a smartphone. Also, the maker of my TV doesn't go out of their way to make it as easy as possible to bring in my current one for credit towards the newest model.
 
I have an iPhone 14, and the battery is the only issue really. I might just decide to replace the battery than get a new iPhone because of cost reasons. The phone works perfectly fine aside to that. And in regards to AI, I already have a pair of Meta Glasses that I wear daily that answer all of my questions fairly well. Significantly smarter than Siri currently is
yeah i wouldnt upgrade either if i have the iphone 14 just a waste of money, let the ai stuff sort it out and run for a few iterations to mature, then upgrade when it's iphone 18/19, i think the next few iterations we will see significant upgrades to ram/neuro chip as apple try to figure out ai.

only thing i hate about the battery upgrade is those apple stores force you to unlock your phone even though they dont need to (and i think the policy also says no), i dont trust them given i have my wallets and all work related stuff on the phone. Like why do you need to unlock it to replace a battery?
 
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It's bold to say that you're 'stating objectively' observations. Clearly it is subjective, as most people don't consider new colors a new look or design, babe.
Y..yes? I think you just accidentally agreed with me because I literally said exactly that...
A “new look” is different than a radically new design which is what the original comment was complaining about. If looking new is all you care about then technically they do that every year with changing the screen, new color options, etc.

And there's nothing subjective about stating the undeniable fact about the current state of the industry. People can attribute whatever value to each iterative product update that they see fit, and that's the subjective part. This back and forth all stemmed from the OP's comment that the phones every year don't really change which is what prompted me to reply saying that no, technically they do change every year in ways beyond the colors alone such as bezel thickness or the notch, Dynamic Island, and so on.
 
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Y..yes? I think you just accidentally agreed with me because I literally said exactly that...
Nothing accidental. Just merely pointed out that your subjective opinion is not objective.

Weird how you're being passive aggressive when someone agrees with you. Life is not always a competition. People can agree with each other...
technically they do change every year in ways beyond the colors alone such as bezel thickness or the notch, Dynamic Island, and so on.
...which makes the above part pretty funny, because you are defending your 'objective facts' with your subjective opinion. Which is fine. This is a forum. Where people discuss. But let's not suggest you are 'objectively' right. Or me. Because it is subjective. In this case, there is literally no right or wrong.
 
Okay then, please share with the rest of the class what your ingenious design ideas are for a rectangle. There are only so many ways to craft a candy bar made of metal and glass before you stagnate or repeat past designs.
There are 9 different iPhone designs so far. The last one was fine for a couple of years, but five? I guess they need to hire Sir Jony back to create a new design.
 
77mm lens is much more useful than 300mm lens. I hope they add a new lens instead of replacing the more useful one.
Apple will not take away any available focus lengths, just increase the tele range, which is all good. The range of 77mm to 300mm is hugely useful. E.g. probably more than 95% of pro portraiture is captured in the 77mm-300mm range (35mm equivalent).

Amateurs should take note and learn. In addition to softening backgrounds as noted in the article, the telephoto perspective usually makes live subjects look better.
 
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Boring. 5th in row when they same design.
The iPhone is a tool, not a new piece of kitsch art. Most thinking people do not want such a device to be constantly changing design unless for really good reasons. Like the new capture button is such a really good reason, if it improves the awful camera UI.
 
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That's because so many here don't like Cook simply because of how he looks, the way he dresses, and the lifestyle he chooses.

Anyone who criticizes him for that isn't really expressing a worthwhile opinion. None of that is relevant to being CEO. I don't think he's a particularly exciting public speaker but that's about as far as that goes in practical terms.

Apple is very lucky to have Cook at the helm.

He was personally chosen by Steve Jobs, and he could be doing a hell of a lot worse.

Cook is giving roughly 1 billion active customers what they want. That's what counts, with the result Apple being one of the most successful companies in the world and keeping 160,000+ employees well-compensated.

This is where it gets at least debatable. It's a hard job, no question. But he still isn't the product guy that Apple needs. It's not like he's steering the ship straight into the iceberg. He inherited a huge, wildly successful organization. Simply not screwing that up takes a lot of skill.

He and Ballmer have a lot in common in that regard. I don't think Ballmer or Cook could have made Microsoft and Apple the companies they were when they took them over. I think Cook has a better conceptual grasp of his market than Ballmer did.

Mainly I just worry at this point that he has chosen too many distracting projects and has lost focus on what's important sometimes. I think he left Alan Dye locked in his office working on the Vision Pro interface, and should have stopped it from infecting the rest of the UI design. I don't think he has the love for the Mac that previous generations had.

I mostly wonder what comes next. Cook is essentially inoffensive, neither insanely great nor terribly bad. He hasn't rocked the boat much. But I wonder who he/the board will decide should have the job next. He's already dropped hints that his retirement is within the foreseeable future.
 
This is where it gets at least debatable. It's a hard job, no question. But he still isn't the product guy that Apple needs. It's not like he's steering the ship straight into the iceberg. He inherited a huge, wildly successful organization. Simply not screwing that up takes a lot of skill.

He and Ballmer have a lot in common in that regard. I don't think Ballmer or Cook could have made Microsoft and Apple the companies they were when they took them over. I think Cook has a better conceptual grasp of his market than Ballmer did.

Mainly I just worry at this point that he has chosen too many distracting projects and has lost focus on what's important sometimes. I think he left Alan Dye locked in his office working on the Vision Pro interface, and should have stopped it from infecting the rest of the UI design. I don't think he has the love for the Mac that previous generations had.

I mostly wonder what comes next. Cook is essentially inoffensive, neither insanely great nor terribly bad. He hasn't rocked the boat much. But I wonder who he/the board will decide should have the job next. He's already dropped hints that his retirement is within the foreseeable future.

Apple is doing great and doesn't need a "product guy." "Product guy" is such a nebulous bs throw-away term people like to bandy about like it's some kind of glorified tech royalty. Cook's a degreed engineer with tons of experience in tech. He has loads of outstanding senior engineers and managers working under his direction developing the outstanding Apple products people love to own. Year after year, after year.

While other tech companies (google, Microsoft, Lyft, IBM, Salesforce, Oracle, Amazon, Qualcomm, DropBox, twitter, Meta/Facebook, Dell, Intel, Sony, EA, Cisco, PayPal, eBay, Spotify, LinedIn, etc.) had mass layoffs that impacted thousands of employees during the pandemic, Apple kept going not needing to do that thanks to Cook.

Apple is where it is today, with 1 billion active repeat customers due to Cook being at the helm. Without Cook's leadership Apple would be just another ho-hum tech company with ho-hum products like Dell, Lenovo. Asus, HP, Microsoft, etc.
 
Apple is doing great and doesn't need a "product guy." "Product guy" is such a nebulous bs throw-away term people like to bandy about like it's some kind of glorified tech royalty. Cook's a degreed engineer with tons of experience in tech. He has loads of outstanding senior engineers and managers working under his direction developing the outstanding Apple products people love to own. Year after year, after year.

While other tech companies (google, Microsoft, Lyft, IBM, Salesforce, Oracle, Amazon, Qualcomm, DropBox, twitter, Meta/Facebook, Dell, Intel, Sony, EA, Cisco, PayPal, eBay, Spotify, LinedIn, etc.) had mass layoffs that impacted thousands of employees during the pandemic, Apple kept going not needing to do that thanks to Cook.

Apple is where it is today, with 1 billion active repeat customers due to Cook being at the helm. Without Cook's leadership Apple would be just another ho-hum tech company with ho-hum products like Dell, Lenovo. Asus, HP, Microsoft, etc.

It's just what Steve said about him, and I get what he meant now. He seems better at the financials than the actual end product vision. That's all. And that's really what Apple needed then, when they were experiencing explosive growth. He is managing the business very well.

And yeah compared to other CEOs he looks quite good. Like I said, my main worry is for what comes next. Next for their products, next for their leadership.
 
Apple will not take away any available focus lengths, just increase the tele range, which is all good. The range of 77mm to 300mm is hugely useful. E.g. probably more than 95% of pro portraiture is captured in the 77mm-300mm range (35mm equivalent).

Amateurs should take note and learn. In addition to softening backgrounds as noted in the article, the telephoto perspective usually makes live subjects look better.

how does apple keep range of 24 mm to 300mm ? cropping and digital zoom?
 
The iPhone is a tool, not a new piece of kitsch art. Most thinking people do not want such a device to be constantly changing design unless for really good reasons. Like the new capture button is such a really good reason, if it improves the awful camera UI.

The iPhone is a consumer tech product it’s not just a tool like a hammer is. Most other mobile phones on the market are redesigned more frequently and more extensively than the iPhone. So that has nothing to do with what the phone does or that the form factor limits a bigger change. Apple simply doesn’t believe in changing for changing sake. We see that philosophy applied to Apple products big and small - the MacBook, Apple TV, Apple Watch, iMac and AirPods etc. The overall design of these products has stayed the same for much longer than competing products on the market. So it’s fair to say if you plan on buying the next model of an Apple product don’t expect it to look radically different to the current model. That’s simply not Apple. Whether it’s a good or bad thing depends on the individual. Some like it that their products will look current for much longer. Others don’t want to be seen using a ubiquitous product in the sea of humanity.
 
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Apple typically releases its new iPhone series in the fall, and a possible September 10 announcement date has been floated this year, which means we are just one month away from the launch of the iPhone 16. Like the iPhone 15 series, this year's lineup is expected to stick with four models – iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, iPhone 16 Pro, and iPhone 16 Pro Max – although there are plenty of design differences and new features to take into account.

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To bring you up to speed, we've summarized below the biggest iPhone 16 rumors we've covered so far here on MacRumors. For more details, follow the links, or dive into our dedicated roundups for both iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro models.

1. Larger Displays
Biggest Ever iPhones
This year's iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are rumored to be getting bigger display sizes, increasing to 6.27- and 6.86-inches, respectively. For comparison, the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max are equipped with 6.1-inch and 6.7-inch displays, respectively. The new display sizes would be the largest ever for the iPhone.

2. Vertical Camera Layout
iPhone 16 & iPhone 16 Plus
Apple's iPhone 16 base models will feature a vertical camera arrangement with a pill-shaped raised surface, instead of a diagonal camera arrangement like the iPhone 15. The new camera bump features two separate camera rings for the Wide and Ultra Wide cameras. The vertical camera layout is expected to enable Spatial Video recording, which is currently limited to the iPhone 15 Pro models.

3. Battery Changes
All iPhone 16 Models
Rumors suggest the ‌iPhone 16‌ and iPhone 16 Pro Max will feature larger batteries than their predecessors, although the smaller iPhone 16 Pro device could see the biggest improvement, while the ‌iPhone 16‌ Plus may have reduced capacity. The iPhone 16 is said to have a 6% increase over the iPhone 15, with the iPhone 16 Pro Max gaining a 5% increase, and the iPhone 16 Pro seeing a 9% increase. In contrast, the iPhone 16 Plus is rumored to have a 9% reduction in capacity. On the other hand, Apple could also potentially use stacked battery technology to increase energy density and prolong lifespan across the lineup.

4. Capture Button
New Camera Capabilities
All iPhone 16 models will have a new "Capture Button" dedicated to triggering image or video capture. The button will add features like the ability to zoom in and out by swiping left and right on the button, focus on a subject with a light press, and activate a recording with a more forceful press. The Capture Button will be located on the bottom right side of the ‌iPhone 16, and will take the place of the mmWave antenna on U.S. ‌iPhone‌ models, with the antenna relocating to the left side of the device below the volume and Action buttons.

5. Ultra Wide Lens Upgrade
iPhone 16 Pro & iPhone 16 Pro Max
The iPhone 16 Pro models are expected to feature an upgraded 48-megapixel Ultra Wide camera lens, which should allow it to capture more light, resulting in improved photos when shooting in 0.5× mode, especially in low-light environments. This also means that iPhone 16 Pro models should be able to shoot 48-megapixel ProRAW photos in Ultra Wide mode. These photos retain more detail in the image file for more editing flexibility, and can be printed at large sizes. The iPhone 16 Pro Max is also rumored to boast a bigger main camera thanks to an advanced custom 48-megapixel Sony IMX903 sensor.

6. Super Telephoto Camera
iPhone 16 Pro Max
The iPhone 16 Pro Max could be the first to feature a super telephoto periscope camera for dramatically increased optical zoom. "Super" or "ultra" telephoto usually describes cameras with a focal length of over 300mm. The current telephoto lens is equivalent to a 77mm lens, so if accurate, there could be a notable increase in zoom capabilities. Super telephoto cameras are often used for sports and wild animal photography, but the extremely soft backgrounds they create also make them useful for portrait photography, providing there is enough distance between the subject and the photographer.

7. Faster Wi-Fi Support
Wi-Fi 6E & Wi-Fi 7
Apple's 2024 iPhone Pro models are expected to get... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: iPhone 16 Launch Is Just One Month Out – Here's Everything We Know
Meh... what about a smaller, lighter, thinner phone? WHERE IS THE MINI!!? What about a foldable phone? My phone starts being a pain to carry when I go out (the apple watch is too small).
 
Have I just lost my enthusiasm or does this feel quite 'flat' in terms of actual upgrades.

I'm currently on a 13 Pro, the first time I've kept a phone for 3 years, ever, and I thought the 16 Pro would be a logical upgrade, but I'm really not terribly excited by all this.

I absolutely love tech, I live and breathe it in many ways - figuratively speaking - but I think the last iPhone I was excited for was the X or XS Max...

I am impressed by how well my 13 Pro still runs, I love that all it's needed is a new battery but I'd have loved something to get excited about. I just don't think this is it :/
 
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Have I just lost my enthusiasm or does this feel quite 'flat' in terms of actual upgrades.

I'm currently on a 13 Pro, the first time I've kept a phone for 3 years, ever, and I thought the 16 Pro would be a logical upgrade, but I'm really not terribly excited by all this.

I absolutely love tech, I live and breathe it in many ways - figuratively speaking - but I think the last iPhone I was excited for was the X or XS Max...

I am impressed by how well my 13 Pro still runs, I love that all it's needed is a new battery but I'd have loved something to get excited about. I just don't think this is it :/
New iPhone every 3 years with carrier credits, that's about it.
 
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Currently using a 12mini changed the battery and got a free screen replacement thanks to Apple when I noticed the 15 series looking lack luster, and looks like the 16 series will be another pass.

We will see if next years 17 series will be the one to temp me to upgrade lol
Yah I just don’t see the point when phones are good enough. Hell I’m thinking about dumb phone or minimalist phone with no safari or YouTube. Just keep my mini for traveling and for offroading
 
Have I just lost my enthusiasm or does this feel quite 'flat' in terms of actual upgrades.

I'm currently on a 13 Pro, the first time I've kept a phone for 3 years, ever, and I thought the 16 Pro would be a logical upgrade, but I'm really not terribly excited by all this.

I absolutely love tech, I live and breathe it in many ways - figuratively speaking - but I think the last iPhone I was excited for was the X or XS Max...

I am impressed by how well my 13 Pro still runs, I love that all it's needed is a new battery but I'd have loved something to get excited about. I just don't think this is it :/
All of this, but with 12 Pro Max here. My wife just had her battery replaced under AppleCare and I had my whole phone replaced last month (also under AppleCare) so now I don't even have the "Gee, my battery life sucks" driver.

I really planned on getting the 16PM, but darned if I can find an actual reason to crack out $2500+ for a pair of new phones based on the rumors so far.
 
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All of this, but with 12 Pro Max here. My wife just had her battery replaced under AppleCare and I had my whole phone replaced last month (also under AppleCare) so now I don't even have the "Gee, my battery life sucks" driver.

I really planned on getting the 16PM, but darned if I can find an actual reason to crack out $2500+ for a pair of new phones based on the rumors so far.
Yep, it really is wild to me that I'm so apathetic to a launch.

I'm not jumping ship as I do love the iOS ecosystem, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that the Galaxy Fold my dad has is far more exciting to me than any Apple phone. I'd LOVE to see something similar running iOS.
 
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Funny thing is that with the AI hype phones actually could have benefited from like 16-32GB of RAM but then the brand new iMac would have only a half / a quarter of the RAM of your phone lol

In any case if you’re interested in AI and get an 8GB phone I’m not sure you’re going the best route as then you already know for sure you’re gonna want to upgrade next year.
Exactly. I plan to trade my 14 Pro for the new SE when it arrives and wait until all this settles out. Had a gen 2 SE before the 14 pro. It's nuts to think the SE will smoke a 2 year old 14 Pro.
 
When we gonna get rid of those notches and magic islands and all that cr@p? Also, I still have an iphone 5s in my drawer which I consider nicer.
 
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