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ric22

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I recently switched from the 15 Pro back to the 14 Pro because of the high-resolution photos and won't be upgrading until the iPhone 19 Pro in 2027. From 2027, all manufacturers will be obliged to sell their smartphones in the EU only with a manually replaceable battery without tools.
No, not "without tools"...

"A portable battery shall be considered readily removable by the end-user where it can be removed from a product with the use of commercially available tools, without requiring the use of specialized tools, unless provided free of charge with the product, proprietary tools, thermal energy, or solvents to disassemble...."
 

ric22

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I've got a 15PM so no incentive to upgrade at all...

For everyone who is upgrading, I hope they don't plan to start removing the SIM card tray in other markets, as it remains essential for much of the world, and for frequent travellers.
 

PsykX

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I’m curious, do you prefer the secrecy and not knowing anything at all, or being informed by outlets such as these? Like why are you here
I'll be honest, I preferred when Apple was more secretive in the 2000s.

But now their logistic chain is so big and Apple themselves are so big, it just takes 3-5 leakers amongst 100,000+ people and they're toast.
 

citysnaps

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Oct 10, 2011
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Why are new phones released annually? It seems ridiculous at this point. Yes, to make more money, and because other manufacturers do the same. Wish Apple had the "courage" to move to an 18-24 month cycle, when upgrades would make more sense.

Curious... why does that bother you personally, as you can simply choose to not upgrade?

Apple being able to manufacture and sell 600,000 iPhones per day, every day of the year, I suspect is excellent motivation to give people what they want.

I'll certainly be upgrading.
 

MrMacintoshIII

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Oct 11, 2019
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I’m on 15 Pro and though I’m usually a yearly updater… idk this one doesn’t seem like it’s it.

More interested in those 17 Slim rumors…
 
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ThatsMeRight

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Well they’re really a multi-trillion dollar company but in any case I’m not necessarily defending them so much as I’m saying the whole industry is basically this way now because the smartphone in general is a mature product category. A “new look” is different than a radically new design which is what the original comment was complaining about. If looking new is all you care about then technically they do that every year with changing the screen, new color options, etc.
Disagree.
 
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Mother Nature

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Sep 15, 2023
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If they bring swap file support to the iPhone like they now have on the iPad, and I can turn off Apple Intelligence and actually use all 8GB of that RAM, that'll be an upgrade buy from me.

If I can finally treat it like a Mac and leave an app there and come back to it exactly as it was, no unnecessary reloading from switching one app away, I will be very happy.
That won't happen, since that behaviour is not due to RAM limitations, is how the architecture was designed to handle multitasking, you should get an Android phone if that is what you want to do, Android offers real multitasking.
 

Hkfan45

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Sep 14, 2021
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That won't happen, since that behaviour is not due to RAM limitations, is how the architecture was designed to handle multitasking, you should get an Android phone if that is what you want to do, Android offers real multitasking.
True. iOS and iPadOS does a piss poor job at multitasking compared with android. It becomes harder and harder for me to justify spending the money on iOS products these days.
 
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Chuckeee

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Aug 18, 2023
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No it doesn’t… Apple can put the A17 in the standard iPhone 16 and it will run the AI features just like the iPhone 15 Pro will!
But AI isn’t the only reason Apple is moving all their new phones to a new processor. The A17 was produced on the N3B production line, which has turned out to be expensive to operate with mediocre yield. The move to A18 is a move to a more efficient and cheaper process. Moving to A18 from A17 saves Apple money, that is why no new phones use A17 chips
 
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Chuckeee

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Aug 18, 2023
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Why are new phones released annually? It seems ridiculous at this point. Yes, to make more money, and because other manufacturers do the same. Wish Apple had the "courage" to move to an 18-24 month cycle, when upgrades would make more sense.
Well the saying goes, “It takes 2 to Tango”. If consumers stopped falling for marketing claptrap and had “courage” not to buy into every annual update, then manufacturers would make more meaningful upgrades over a longer upgrade cycle.
 
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FineWoven

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Sep 18, 2023
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I won’t spend the 2-3 hours to upgrade my existing phone if there isn’t enough of a pull factor. I know it’s said you can set up a new phone in an hour. For some reasons it always takes much longer in my case.
"I don't regularly upgrade my phone because it takes a couple hours a year" has to be the most first-world excuse I've ever heard
 

CarAnalogy

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Jun 9, 2021
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That won't happen, since that behaviour is not due to RAM limitations, is how the architecture was designed to handle multitasking, you should get an Android phone if that is what you want to do, Android offers real multitasking.

...

Get an Android cannot possibly be the best response to every criticism of obvious shortcomings in the iPhone.

It was designed that way to due RAM limitations. They already did this on iPad. I just want it on iPhone.

I've already solved the issue of the iPhone being a limited pocket device by using a Mac most of the time.

But from a company that wants to sell me something like an iPhone Pro Max, I expect a little more.
 

FattiesGoneWild

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Nov 1, 2019
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I update yearly. BUT, this time I might actually hold onto my 15 Pro Max. Think it’s the best phone Apple has ever made and I really like it. Especially the blue color! 👍
 
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ThomasJL

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Oct 16, 2008
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Yeah, cluelessness indeed... resulting in Apple manufacturing, shipping, and selling 600,000 iPhones per day every day of the year (on the average) to Apple's roughly 1 billion active (and repeat) customers.
By that same logic, Steve Ballmer was an excellent CEO because Windows Vista outsold all other operating systems at the time, Microsoft had more customers than all of its competitors, and Microsoft was making record profits.

Of course I don't believe that logic, but that's the same logic that Tim Cook supporters use.
 

citysnaps

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Oct 10, 2011
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By that same logic, Steve Ballmer was an excellent CEO because Windows Vista outsold all other operating systems at the time, Microsoft had more customers than all of its competitors, and Microsoft was making record profits.

Of course I don't believe that logic, but that's the same logic that Tim Cook supporters use.

That's because so many here don't like Cook simply because of how he looks, the way he dresses, and the lifestyle he chooses. Apple is very lucky to have Cook at the helm.

Cook is giving roughly 1 billion active customers what they want. That's what counts, with the result Apple being one of the most successful companies in the world and keeping 160,000+ employees well-compensated.
 

Chuckeee

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That's because so many here don't like Cook simply because of how he looks, the way he dresses, and the lifestyle he chooses. Apple is very lucky to have Cook at the helm.
Part of it is the people like to complain about the current CEO and reminisce about how wonderful a past CEO was. This isn’t unique to Apple
 
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citysnaps

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Oct 10, 2011
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Part of it is the people like to complain about the current CEO and reminisce about how wonderful a past CEO was. This isn’t unique to Apple

That smacks of idolatry. An odd metric being elevated to being the most important company metric.

Cook is giving Apple's 1 billion customers what they want. That's what really counts.
 
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