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Every phone is indeed an improvement. But it's time Apple consider putting the phones on a 2 year upgrade cycle and staggering the Pro and Regular. That way you keep demand yearly but you split it out. Idk. This one has been disappointing though. It feels as if they have started to give up on certain things. It's crazy it's taken this long and we still won't even have a fully fixed Siri yet. Still now affordable HomePod with a screen which there is demand for especially if they want HomeKit to take off.
 
For better or for worse, consumers have become conditioned to expect a bit of novelty with every upgrade cycle, and Apple's recent hardware revisions have been very iterative. It's been nearly a half-decade since the last major design overhaul of the iPhone. (On the Android side, even though foldables are still a niche category, their over-representation in marketing materials contributes to the impression that more risks are being taken elsewhere in the smartphone space.)

I also feel like Apple's insistence upon "premium" muted colors for the Pro models is leaving money on the table. I wish they would extend some of the lovely jewel tones from the base models across the entire line. I understand the need for demarcation between the two tiers, but year after year of dull metallic finishes makes shopping for the new Pros so boring. I just went for the natural titanium finish again this year because none of the other options felt captivating.

(Aside: The fact that Apple touted the Series 10 Apple Watch's "all-new" design, even though said design reads as virtually indistinguishable from the previous design, makes me wonder if they're stuck in a bit of a groupthink rut. I believe part of the reason the Ultra has sold so well is because it felt like Apple being a bit playful—within Apple's somewhat conservative bounds, of course. Apple's industrial design has felt a bit joyless and utilitarian in recent years. Impeccable, tasteful, airless.)
 
Kuo is decently accurate about future hardware products but his predictions about the softer things like timing of releases and demand have not been nearly as good. No, I don't have data to back this statement up. It's simply based on my observations over the years.

He might be accurate but because this is a demand prediction, take his prediction with a huge grain of salt.
 
None of that is meaningful upgrade from last year. I wonder how useful a mono-tasking button is for camera. The interface Apple showed off is going to confuse old people. The screen is still awful and the camera changes could actually be worse for everyday usage since the 3 to 5x jump is such a drastic difference when composing. Charging is, whatever I guess that’s good. Most of the pro camera features - I’d love to know the breakdown of who actually uses that stuff. The majority want point and shoot. Is the pro phone actually a pro video and photo phone but not Pro as in professional? I suspect so
Problem is what’s so different about the camera from the 15 Pro Max? The ultra-wide is rather pointless if you don’t take wide landscape photography. Longer lens is almost always good for portraits and other kinds of photography.
 
It’s a solid tock release. Some of the major updates like better microphones and thermals aren’t sexy and won’t move units, but will pay dividends down the line.

FWIW I’m watching close to see why Apple included the capture button on the base models. Not doing that would increase margins for those phones and probably increase ASP’s as many would go to the pro for that feature. I think there’s a longer game here. It does nudge users to take more landscape photos and videos, but I’m not sure what Apple’s payoff would be with that 🤔
The pay off is that in 2-3 years when the cheaper Vision Pro is on the horizon, Apple can now market to the whole user base with these retroactively spatial photos that their libraries are now chalk full of (their plan relying on camera control leading to more landscape shots). Only explanation for this coming to the base models as well.
 
Or maybe Apple has done a better job at producing the correct number of phones?
When shipping times improved for iPhone 13, analysts said demand weakened before holidays. Turns out Apple had best iPhone quarter ever. On top of that Tim Apple said Apple lost 6 Billion with constraints at launch. It very well could be Apple ensuring enough suppply. Let Apple release its numbers.
 
You can see even iPhone enthusiasts not being as excited right here on Mac Rumors forums (who would likely purchase a Pro over standard iPhone). That should be an indicator as well.
Well, I bought one on release day to replace my 13 Pro. First time ever buying an iPhone (or any Apple product) on release day and I've been using Apple products for more than 40 years.
 
The 13 pro is a plenty capable phone - even the X and 11 is enough for most people. I plan on staying with my 13 mini at least one more year. But you know that island is smaller than your notch, right?
True, but not significantly. I upgraded from the 7 so it was a big upgrade for me. A hole punch in front would feel like a comparable upgrade for me
 
Higher revenue doesn’t necessarily imply higher unit sales.
Pretty much all surveys even for Jan-March 2024 put 7 of IPhone 15 models in top 10. Top 3 were Apple. Margins and estimated cost per device can give a good idea. At the end of the day iPhone 15 volume numbers by analysts were revised upwards. I will take results over some yearly speculation. Apple isn’t in Android 100 $ devices to worry about activation share.
 
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My main reason to upgrade is the 15 Pro has a faulty Bluetooth modem that Apple has been promising to fix since launch. They sent me a replacement with the same issue and then Support said iOS 18 would fix it. It has not.

I also read about people upgrading because of the 15pro heat or battery issues.
I always find this interesting; as people who weren't happy with their less than year old purchase deciding the best course of action is to vote with their wallet and reward apple by buying a newer model.

I mean i get why people do it; but this sort of reaction seems unique to phones; and maybe more specifically iphones.

If people bought a car which turned out to be a lemon, or a dud microwave or fridge etc. They're often going to move onto a different brand or model; not buy the new version of the same.
 
That's no surprise if it's true. There's only SO much you can do with a Smartphone, no matter who makes it. We are down to new yearly colors and Apple is now giving certain models, exclusive features. That should tell you we are at diminishing returns with smartphone tech.
 
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Yeah sure Blame China for the lack of sales. With their economy like it is I highly doubt they're gonna be spending a lot on new phones, as like with the rest of the world as well. Apple is failing in their product lines and high prices, they should have lowered everything to capture the market from competitors, they could easily afford it and make it up on volume. but they are greedy and singular minded and lost the scope of the market.
 
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