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iPhone 16 Pro Max Beaten by Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra in App Loading Speed Test
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If you don't care about this then stop talking about things you don't know anything about. I care about this hence why i talk about it and i want Apple to use better methods to cool their iPhones.
When using iPhones outside, the screen dims pretty fast making the screen not very legible because of poor heat dissipation. Apple needs to use better cooling.
I'm not trying to change your mind use whatever device you want. I use both, but the facts are still the facts, when it comes to manufacturing and design, Samsung is simply better at it and Apple needs to improve.
I suggest you stop talking about things you know nothing about. The SoC is not overclocked, they are specifically tuned for the max boost performance they can comfortably get based on the thermal headroom available which for mobile platforms are seconds of boost clock then back down to base clock as needed.
Stop talking about things you don't know about.
Snapdragon 8 Elite manufacturer Clock Speed: 4.47 GHz vs Samsung variant 4.62 GHz a measly 150MHz (3.36%) is not going to give you up to 20% performance uplift.
iPhones are suppose to get future system updates that is literally part of the selling point for them to receive at least 3 major system updates not adding enough RAM is why the future updates slows down older iPhones and why features are cut from just barely 1 year old iPhone. It is not the right amount of RAM, it is the lowest amount they can comfortably get away with before the system performance is severely affected. 8GB of RAM is the bare minimum in 2025. If 6GB of RAM was enough they would not have increased it to 8GB. The baseline for MACs has moved to 16GB. That should tell you 8GB is not even enough.
A rational person does not spend time defending corporate greed. I literally showed you how Apple does not spend time designing better cooling system for iPhones and all you can rationally come up with is you're happy with it.
Just wait and watch the out pour for foldables once Apple launches them! The entire Apple mafia will be doing Kumbaya
They release roughly 6 months from each other. If it's unfair to judge a 6 month old Apple vs a new Snapdragon how is it fair to judge a new Apple Vs a 6 month old Snapdragon?
Yeah, Apple may be ahead then, but what will be more interesting is whether it is by less than last year - i.e. is Snapdragon catching up?
In any event, both are faster than almost any normal person really needs, so this is about nothing other than bragging rights.
I did one more comparisons. I watched both iphone 16 tests simultaneously and video export was damn slow this time. There has to be some flaw. I also put both graphs in one pic and it looks weird. Even each is in different csale, some results look unreliable. Snapseed score in previous test also looks weird.
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Its not BS, in other benchmarking tests the SD8 Elite gets very close Single Core scores to the A18 Pro:
Snapdragon 8 Elite vs Apple A18 Pro: Benchmark showdown - Gizmochina
Snapdragon 8 Elite faces off against Apple A18 Pro in an intense benchmark showdown. Discover which chip offers best speed and efficiency.www.gizmochina.com
3156 for the SD8 Elite and 3291 for the A18 Pro.
Also i was saying that the SD8 Elite would be an ideal chip for flagship android tablets, i was not saying the SD8 Elite is more powerful than the M4, because its not at all. Apple M chips are a different discussion, they compete with the SD X Elite chips in Windows tablets/laptops etc.
Nothing competes with the M4 CPU and the only thing that competes with the GPU is Nvidia.
Anything Qualcomm and Snapdragon is for the mid to low end competition and always will be.
****ing ‘look how fast my apps launch’. What an idiotic topic. Windows app launch faster than macOS versions but Windows is still crap.
iOS 18 still works great on my iPhone 12 Mini so I don’t see how it slows down. Compared to Android where after 2 major updates, the phones…. Lol, just kidding, Android phones don’t get 2 major OS updates.
It’s called Cope.
They did the same thing in the Apple Silicon sub forum before the Qualcomm Windows laptops came out. They were saying how Apple Silicon was going to face tough competition.
Then the Windows ARM laptops came out and they stunk.
Those guys posting hype disappeared.
As was said imo the average Apple user does not care about this. The geeks will geek out. But with the exception of video conversion most of this is a wash.
How many older android models can run AI on their hardware? As opposed to being a conduit to ChatGPT.
And do not tell the community of what to talk about. If you don’t like the iPhone ecosystem there are alternatives. Buy what you want. The recent record apple earnings should put to bed some of the nonsense posted.
I’ll also posit a rational person absolutely defends corporate greed - especially when the criticisms ring hollow.
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Ignoring marketing hype (apple AI), what can iOS 18 do that iOS 16 can't?
Other than Lock Screen customization, lock/hide apps, flexible Home Screen, control center updates, journal app, photos app updates, improved iMessage capabilities to name a few. And then there is the myriad of apple intelligence features.
Whether you care about the list is subjective but there are some big differences.
Being outraged that you can't compare a February 2025 phone until the September 2025 phone is released is a real cope.
That reasonable/sensible talk has no place in this forum!!! 😜
Seriously, you are undoubtedly correct. However, I do think that given the benchmarks on the SoC's for these phones that Apple has some software bloat in the OS slowing things down a bit -- since Apple has a 17% advantage in single core performance. I would like to see Apple "trim the fat" for iOS. My guess is that they got sloppy in rushing to cram in new AI features and did not spend as much time optimizing performance as in previous releases.
I just watched it again to see and the Samsung started at 71% and the iPhone at 81% (i.e.: when the stopwatch apps are started).
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meh, these comparisons stopped mattering a long time ago. Phones these days (and for a long time now) are far beyond what we actually need in terms of performance. Doesn't matter if each iteration is 10% faster, we're at a point where we're talking about milliseconds of difference on actions that typically take fractions of a second. I mean if it takes .3 of a second to open an app, it doesn't really matter to me if the next phone can do it 0.03 seconds faster.
No one is arguing about good or bad, it’s market share.
Interesting that Snapdragon is finally catching Apple’s chips. Not surprising, but Apple was miles ahead for years. Not that I am switching to Samsung, the actual speed is not very relevant anymore because all of the top chips are awesome.
Well Apple overclock their phones or else they wouldn’t have to implement a feature 1 year after it comes out throttle performance.So, unless I'm missing something, Samsung S25 beat iPhone
- on an overclocked phone
- with a substantially improved cooling system
- utilizing an extra 4GB of RAM.
I mean...if they require that to beat an iPhone, not sure that's 'impressive.' Remove the overclocking and the 4GB and let's see how it does.
Apple deliberately hold back ram so when it comes to selling a new phone they can just use that as an excuse to not give you new features because they say there chips are that amazing