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iPhone 16 Rumored to Feature 'Significantly' Upgraded Neural Engine for iOS 18's Generative AI Features
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Not like they invented the ability for more cores. Just been keeping in pocket until needs.
Exactly. I know it powers FaceID, but that's about it.
Leapfrog with what, Siri Pilot? No, thanks. It will be as dumb as Siri.
And as far as I can tell, Neural engine is good only for retouching photos. At least, thats what Apple shows.
Nope still don’t want a foldable. I can deal with the expense and fragility of a Vision Pro i keep at home but not in a phone i carry everywhere.
If the next iPhone has better hardware for AI, isn’t it only logical that it would be able to do AI better than existing/older iPhones? Do people who want all AI features to be exactly the same on new and old phones expect Apple to artificially limit AI capabilities on the new phones?
Oh, it’s absolutely terrifying what it can/will be able to do. I’m glad Apple is focusing on device and thinking critically about what to expose to devs (for example, eye tracking data on the Vision Pro not being available in real time to apps, just the chosen interactions).
I just feel that as a customer of a company that I’ve already given tens of thousands of pounds, I shouldn’t be thrown out of new features.
We know you don’t have to have nearly as much processing power as the iPhone of late to answer simple questions on device (Alexa is proof of that!).
Siri has been a hapless afterthought for ages, and to deprive anyone that recently bought devices of a more clever version is just rude.
I just want the ability to place apps and folders where I want on the screen without having to fill out the grid.
That’ll be the truly ridiculous part -You most likely will have to get M3 Macs/iPads or newer to get the AI features getting introduced in the next OSs post iPhones 16.
The highest end M2 Mac will not have the special number of Neural cores that Apple’s marketing team has decided is the number that can run a language model (AI).
I have an iPhone 11.
Sometimes it takes Siri ages to say "Here's what I found on the web". I'm hoping it says that much faster on the iPhone 16.
Sometimes it takes Siri ages to say "Here's what I found on the web". I'm hoping it says that much faster on the iPhone 16.
To be honest, I was expecting this increase in neural engines.
AI features are the future, if not already the present. We’ve all seen the increase from 2, to 8, to 16 NE cores, and it was expectable that they would increase them at some point. Especially now that Apple is rumored to be focusing on AI features for the future.
This is one of the reasons why I waited so long to renew my Mac. First, M3 Mac mini is still not available. But even if it was, I would probably wait for the M4 to have this beefier neural engine.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have it on my iPhone as well, but unfortunately the smallest iPhone 16 will be huge, and I love my SE3 size. So I’m stuck on this A15 device for a while. Hopefully the A15 will be powerful enough for some of this upcoming features.
AI features are the future, if not already the present. We’ve all seen the increase from 2, to 8, to 16 NE cores, and it was expectable that they would increase them at some point. Especially now that Apple is rumored to be focusing on AI features for the future.
This is one of the reasons why I waited so long to renew my Mac. First, M3 Mac mini is still not available. But even if it was, I would probably wait for the M4 to have this beefier neural engine.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have it on my iPhone as well, but unfortunately the smallest iPhone 16 will be huge, and I love my SE3 size. So I’m stuck on this A15 device for a while. Hopefully the A15 will be powerful enough for some of this upcoming features.
This. The other AI out there is all cloud based. Nothing is happening on device. (Speaking about generative AI like chatbots and things). Apple’s AI tech is and [mostly] always has been on device. Being able to pull off the smarts of the tech out there today, but on-device, will be a game changer for performance and privacy. Both of which are a nightmare with AI currently.
Unless the 16 lineup can do all the processing on-device, and the rest have to ping the cloud?
This is what I think will happen as well. Maybe some features like removing subjects from pictures can be done on-device, at least in A14 devices and newer, but the generative AI will probably be a different thing.
Holding back newer devices is exactly what they did with the iPhone XS. Until iOS 15 the features on the XS were nearly identical to the X despite its extra 6 cores in the neural engine. Then in iOS 15/16 they suddenly added lots of features to take advantage of the extra power for the XS and above to use. They waited three years for the tech to trickle down, they could do something similar with AI functions.
There's no need. The market, until yesterday, was a rocketship, with a lot of AI names participating. Apple was not one of the engines seeking to achieve orbit. It's going to be a long while yet.
Apple's revenue has sucked for each of the last four fiscal quarters compared to year-ago quarters. There is no real way to know however, if the consequence you cite is the reason for that.
I don't think we know this yet. Just like any dealer, Apple knows that they'll need to give everybody a taste of the new hotness. Then, when we're all good and hooked, have a big presentation at the Mothership and open the store for pre-orders.
Is it too much for me to expect Siri to know if I am moving through space and time faster than walking speed, she should probably just read what she found on the web, rather than make me take my eyes off the road or my altimeter? Or ask me if I'd like her to read (or summarize) the results out loud?
I don't care if "actual AI" is implemented for Siri. Or Alexa, for that matter. Just reduce friction by 5% each year and I'll be happy as a pig in slop!
So all the fuss about my 15 PM neural engines will be for nothing because most features will be reserved for the 16?. Talking about planned obsolesence. Let´s wait to see what AI feautes are "too demanding for iphone 15".
Samsung already has some impressive AI features (on device and on the cloud) can Apple give us something backward compatible?.
Perhaps Siri can be used to put a reminder or an appointment and send the invite to my contacts?.
Perhaps Siri can finally edit a misstyped number in the prehistoric dial pad?. I want a phone that works, not halfbaked features.
Samsung already has some impressive AI features (on device and on the cloud) can Apple give us something backward compatible?.
Perhaps Siri can be used to put a reminder or an appointment and send the invite to my contacts?.
Perhaps Siri can finally edit a misstyped number in the prehistoric dial pad?. I want a phone that works, not halfbaked features.
They said, but from various tests made by some people, it's like 1-2% faster.