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And you are not the only one. I have an M2 iPad Pro with a 16 core neutral engine. If the iPhone gets boosted Neural Engine, and only that will support new Siri There will be a protest, even worse than the one that happened when stage manager came out and was initially limited to M series devices.

It’s a rapidly advancing tech field. It’s not about you.
 
It is not clear what the current neural cores are used for. They might make some operations (image analysis and voice recognition) faster, but it is not as if these things can't be done on a CPU—especially one as fast as what's in an iPhone.

I think Apple would have been better served by putting zero "neural cores" in their chips until this year, when it seems like they have found a use case. Hoping Apple will do their thing and present a surprisingly good implementation—one that makes them come out on top despite bing late to the party.
 
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It will be some photo editing party tricks and text editing assists limited to the upcoming 16s. I have used S24 Ultra and largely forget these new features shortly after setup.

There are also a multitude of iOS apps available if one doesn't mind cloud-based processing.
 
Man I’m so close to switching from iPhone because of how boring it is, but I’ll wait first to see what they will come up with in iOS 18 and how much of it will be for iPhone 16 lineup only, which is dumb but whatever, usual Apple behavior.
 
I've been so disinterested in the actual specs of iPhone SoC for a good while, I had no idea that they doubled them between iPhones 11 and 12 but then haven't added more cores but "only" improved the performance of the (so-called) Neural Engine itself.

If iPhones 16 do indeed make the jump to 32- cores, or just 24(more likely?), then that has to be a big improvement if it's, at the very least, paired with what's going to be a slight improvement over the already-very-powerful iPhones 15 Pro.

I hate to say I'm actually a little hyped, but I do feel it a little bit.

Even if it just amounts to a version of Siri with a touch of GPT then I'm pretty much in.
 
The spirit of Siri is getting an upgrade to the size of her cage in the chip layout
 
Some say Neural Engine needs to be efficient because it needs to E.g. recognize faces on the photos quick and send the information to NSA and FBI before it even gets encrypted on our phones :)
 
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I still don’t believe that they’ll show exclusive features for a device that hasn’t even been announced yet. The iOS 18 Generative Features that’ll get announced at WWDC will be available to all devices that can run iOS 18. Any exclusive features will be announced in September, when the devices that can run those features will be announced. Unless, you know, Apple decides to randomly announce the iPhone 16 lineup at WWDC for some reason.
Not necessarily. They have introduced features in WWDC before that were only available for the latest models. It was only revealed later in the fine prints. For instance, the continuity camera feature for Macs and Apple TV, or karaoke feature in Apple Music.
 
They need to make AI features that are only available on iPhone 16 to incentivise people to upgrade, even if limiting the functions to the latest model is artificial. Because it's intelligent (for Apple's business). Camera upgrades is not enough anymore.

Apple has been making sometimes radical changes to NI cores without changing the core count. And they never publish those changes. They could have, at any time, rebranded the NI as NI2 and set a functionality cutoff and they didn’t.

when DO they actually do that? They don’t.
 
Expecting to hear a lot about AI features at WWDC. Many of the features might be reserved only for the upcoming iPhones.
 
The Neural Engine in the 15 Pros is capable of 35 TFLOPs, which is a lot... I suspect the 16 regulars will get the same chip and a boost in RAM, and them and the 15 Pros will all be able to run the advanced AI features along with the 16 Pros and their new SoC.
 
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Foldables suck and an apple foldable will suck also. Just stick to non foldable.
Agreed.

It's kinda funny how a folding phone gets praise for a quality outer screen, so the user doesn't have to open it as often... you come to realize the whole idea is a bit of a stupid venture anyway.

Especially when the costs amount to an overpriced, yet mediocre spec'd phone that susceptible to... sand. 😶
 
The Neural Engine in the 15 Pros is capable of 35 TFLOPs, which is a lot... I suspect the 16 regulars will get the same chip and a boost in RAM, and them and the 15 Pros will all be able to run the advanced AI features along with the 16 Pros and their new SoC.
But they went out of their way to signpost that the 15 Pro's chip will not trickle down to regular phones like normal, by giving it the special name "A17 Pro"
 
Large language models have turned out to be a huge snooze for me. They produce the blandest possible content, with hallucinations and factual errors in almost every output. I’m sure the tech will get better, but for now I find myself rolling my eyes at anything AI-produced. It’s the 2024 equivalent of junk mail.
I agree, when it's used for generating text. But when reponding to more specific queries I've found them to be a lot sharper and context-aware than the current generation of Siri.
 
Do people outside these enthusiast forums actually care about the Neural Engine or generative AI? Honest question. I feel like there are more important things they could be working on...
No, nobody cares about the back end stuff. But I'm pretty sure people will care a great deal when they are able to truly delegate tasks like:

"direct me to a gas station with the lowest prices within one mile"

"open the McDonald's app and order a 5 piece chicken mcnugget happy meal for pickup at 2pm at the usual one I go to"

"make a list of nonstop flights to Chicago in early March and email it to Mom"

Right now you have to do a bunch of heavy interacting with your screen to do any of that stuff. I couldn't give a crap about the back end, but any neural engine blah blah whatever that lets that happen? I'm on board immediately. I honestly can't think of anything "more important" than actually making my phone useful.
 
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$1199. iPhone 16 Pro Max. 256GB
$1099. iPhone 16 Pro. 256GB

$899 iPhone 16 Plus 256GB
$799 iPhone 16 256GB

$599 iPhone 16 SE Plus. 128GB
$499 iPhone 16 SE 128GB


The only difference will be Screen, Refresh Rate, and Cameras. And may be some SoC variation including RAM.
 
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