That could work, but then it technically won’t be “exclusive” anymore.Unless the 16 lineup can do all the processing on-device, and the rest have to ping the cloud?
That could work, but then it technically won’t be “exclusive” anymore.Unless the 16 lineup can do all the processing on-device, and the rest have to ping the cloud?
You’ll need at least 64 cores for that. So maybe iPhone 20?I just want the ability to place apps and folders where I want on the screen without having to fill out the grid.
I have different reasons but I will happily join you in the “old man shakes fist at cloud” groupI may be "old man shakes fist at cloud" but I just get the heebie jeebies with AI
just need an apple foldable and we can watch all the fanboys love everything they hated 5 years ago
So regular Siri for everyone but iPhone 16 owners, they get Siri AI. It's a new amazing feature exclusive to the iPhone 16 with iOS 18
You know they will do this.
From reading the article above, I would guess Apple is seeking to do more processing on device, which might need a processor designed for that. It would be a shame if they do limit it to iPhone 16, but maybe more justified than some past decisions.I fully expect Apple to put major AI features into iOS 18 and then make most of it only available on the iPhone 16, or probably only on the iPhone 16 Pro... because of... stuff 🤓
And I’ve never once cared. That said, I imagine there are far more than might initially seem who would prefer Apple pursue a different path.This might surprise you to hear, but I think Apple has other customers than just you in mind when designing these things.
Well if they are going to keep the AI generation on device for privacy then it makes sense to crank up the neural engine. All other AI systems call out to an external service so everything you enter is captured.They need to make AI features that are only available on iPhone 16 to incentivise people to upgrade, even if limiting the functions to the latest model is artificial. Because it's intelligent (for Apple's business). Camera upgrades is not enough anymore.
They rarely do things first or better (these days).Only because they will do it right if they do it
They rarely do things first. They just do it better.
I doubt it.Do people outside these enthusiast forums actually care about the Neural Engine or generative AI? Honest question. I feel like there are more important things they could be working on...
A man who, first and foremost, understands Apple is a business and the decisions will be based on what is best for the business and its owners. Refreshing to find on tech websites.They need to make AI features that are only available on iPhone 16 to incentivise people to upgrade, even if limiting the functions to the latest model is artificial. Because it's intelligent (for Apple's business). Camera upgrades is not enough anymore.
We don’t know that for sure. Keep your fingers crossed and so will I.Just as I thought, the new AI features will be locked to new model iPhones only.
I agree on one hand, and on the other hand, I’m thinking how bad the PR will be if everything is limited to the very newest devices. Especially Siri, who many have suffered with for years. As I’ve said before, limiting that would be a very bad look. And that’s important too.A man who, first and foremost, understands Apple is a business and the decisions will be based on what is best for the business and its owners. Refreshing to find on tech websites.
No disagreement. I had just wanted to show appreciation the message you put out there. I find so many on tech sites seem to forget Apple and the others are profit driven businesses whose owners come first. Some of the conversations I run across where business or finance os part of the discussion, es[pecially those where people are "advising" Apple on how the business should be run, leave me shaking my head.I agree on one hand, and on the other hand, I’m thinking how bad the PR will be if everything is limited to the very newest devices. Especially Siri, who many have suffered with for years. As I’ve said before, limiting that would be a very bad look. And that’s important too.
Worst case scenario: only iPhones with a 16-core neural engine (iPhone 12 and later) get iOS 18. I think it’s likely the iPhone 11 lineup will get iOS 18, but with Apple you never know. Remember when the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus joined the 6s and 6s Plus.My guess is A12 devices are getting chopped this year. A13 might be a barebones version of iOS 18. Who knows, we shall see.
I’m not sure that Apple will use it for plain generative AI like ChatGPT. It doesn’t really fit with the kinds of things Apple does. They are more likely to use it to enhance and make it easier to use features of their phones and OS.Large language models have turned out to be a huge snooze for me. They produce the blandest possible content, with hallucinations and factual errors in almost every output. I’m sure the tech will get better, but for now I find myself rolling my eyes at anything AI-produced. It’s the 2024 equivalent of junk mail.
It’s used a lot for the AI in Photos to identify features like “bicycle” or to identify faces. It also uses the neural engine to identify and copy the main figure in a photo for pasting elsewhere. The new typing suggestions feature uses the neural engine to learn the kinds of words you are likely to type and suggest those. A lot of the AI that Apple already has on the phones uses the neural engines but it is more behind the scenes stuff that they have been calling machine learning instead of using the AI term. I would expect an expansion of these kind of AI in iOS 18.Exactly. I know it powers FaceID, but that's about it.
I’ll be mightily pissed off if the rumoured improvements to Siri are limited to new devices.