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Is it actually 8GB, or is it just running RAMDoubler? 🧐
Yes and yes.

iOS and macOS have used compressed memory for eons. On my 24 GB M4 Mac mini:

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So this phone is 40% more expensive than the previous cheapest iPhone all because Apple wouldn’t dare release a new product that can’t support Apple Intelligence. Even though there’s a little evidence the public cares about Apple Intelligence.
That’s just the pretext. The actual reasons are the Face ID hardware and the OLED screen, and the billions in R&D for the new modem chip.
 
Apple is one of the richest companies that doesn't listen to its customers. I hope they learn from this release that it's enough with the finance-extraction strategy joke. Whatever you put in this brick, will not make it comfortable to hold and use
That isn't going to change, lol. Welcome to capitalism; that is how businesses operate, particularly public companies. Although I don't see how releasing a new iPhone equivalent to a iPhone 16 Lite is somehow "not listening".

Apple was never going to stick to the iPhone 8 design for a third time.
 
so with the new naming convention, does this mean all future "SE" phones will be updated 4-5 months after the September event to bring them back into step?

I can't see Apple updating the entire line every September.

So in some ways they are now spreading the update load and also smoothing out the sales curves a bit.
And "SE" users can hopefully look forward to more regular updates too with trickle down feature add.

edit: And Apple can keep the just released 16E next year and move it down $100 when a new model is released.
 
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Lots of people care about Apple Intelligence; MacRumors even reported very recently that people have begun accelerating their upgrade cycles because of it. So how can you say with sincereity that little evidence exists of the public caring about Apple Intelligence?
MacRumors word must be gospel….?
Sure fanboys who want the latest and greatest will run to the store to get AI iPhone. Personally I could care less about AI right now. Even a first generation product with AI. Maybe in a few years
 
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Man, Jerry & unboxtherapy are so gonna roost that phone😆
To be fair, if it had 120hz it would be a deal breaker.
 
This has to be the worst iphone they have ever offered. No magsafe, no color options, single camera? Oh but it has the AI grift built in.

Such a shame how far the value proposition has fallen for the SE line. The power and price of the original SE made it one of the best phones ever produced. No camera bump, square edges, small form factor. The perfect phone but too weak nowadays to run some apps.

Obviously I am biased as someone who still uses an iphone mini, but there is zero appeal to this new 16E when you could just get a regular 16 for $100 more when it inevitably drops to $700 when the iphone 17 releases.
 
Nah. They scrapped the iPhone SE series because sales were poor. People would rather spend more money on a phone with a bigger screen and better battery life, even if it's used, as opposed to an iPhone SE 3 with small screen and terrible battery life.
It sold pretty well in 2022:

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(Didn’t manage to find newer numbers.)
 
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Is Apple even listening to consumers? I'm little behind on tech but I just compared 16e, 16, and 16 Pro. The pro is 6.3 inches!? I'm still rocking a 12pro which is 12.1 and i hate how big it is.
 
Is Apple even listening to consumers? I'm little behind on tech but I just compared 16e, 16, and 16 Pro. The pro is 6.3 inches!? I'm still rocking a 12pro which is 12.1 and i hate how big it is.
They are. They're listening to the vast majority of their userbase and fanbase. You and the other small phone buyers make up a very small percentage of the overall smartphone market, and the desirability of small phones has plummeted in recent years, which is why Apple no longer manufactures or produces small phones. And I do not see how 6.1" is big. It was bigger in the days of 16:9 displays because they were wide, but not so much now. Majority of people prefer bigger phones because they're better for consuming content, playing games, texting, or other reasons. Especially when you have a larger keyboard to work with on the larger phones.
 
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so with the new naming convention, does this mean all future "SE" phones will be updated 4-5 months after the September event to bring them back into step?
It may be their strategy for making use of the binned SoCs that didn’t make it for the regular models. This might be more economical than keeping the old production lines going.
 
Missed out on my M4 iPad Pro though. It supports AI, but I would have preferred 12 GB base, just because of the cost of the thing.
At those prices, the iPad Pro, and by extension iPhone Pro, should have 16GB RAM minimum.
 
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According to that graph, the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Pro in 4 months both individually outsold the iPhone SE in 11.x months. Not too impressive.
The 6th best-selling smartphone model during launch of the iPhone 14 is still pretty good I’d say.
 
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