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All things point to me using the 15 Pro for a fourth year. I wouldn’t mind the thickness, but the weight.

It’s still a fantastic phone. But if I‘d known I’d use it this long, I’d gotten more storage.
 
Any info on the sensor size besides the flexible aperture? 50% cost increase is significant but will we be WOWed by the adaption of this new system? And the pricing ..... GULP!!!
 
This is one of the reasons I plan to switch to Samsung for my next phone. Along with a few software reasons, I am tired of using hardware that is far behind Samsung. Just look at the Samsung phones that are the same size but a little thinner and must lighter. Apple must be cutting every possible cost when designing these phones instead of trying to design the best, most cutting edge phones.
 
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Apple's obsession with thinness is irritating. We don't need razor thin phones. Just make the whole damn thing the same thickness as the camera bump on the pro models and pack it with battery, better cameras and more capability and leave the razor thin options for those who don't need the pro capability. Make it a truly pro phone and I'd be just fine with a little extra thickness.
This is a strange comment. I think (without trying to put words into your mouth for which I apologize), maybe, your observation is that Apple's obsession with thinness and the resulting compromises in function makes little sense to you. That I can understand, rather than appearing to resent thin phones.

Given the current state of technology, any improvements in camera and battery life result in heavier, bulkier phones. I am not sure where this stops and where we try and focus more on the form factor rather than just performance. At the moment, better camera, and the phone gets thicker or the plateau becomes more obnoxious. I think that plateau is the result of Apple's desire to keep the phone smaller and lighter. Which, I presume is your point. I am glad they are paying some attention to the weight and size of the phone, even if it results in phones that are, and I agree with you, wasting the opportunity to get more battery space.

In the end it is a compromise since technology cannot deliver the camera and battery we want in a form factor that is lighter and less bulky than the current, in my opinion, somewhat ugly crude slab that we are forced to carry around with us. And, on top of that, one of my favorite complaints, they fail in one other major department. They self destruct when dropped without a case. And that case makes the phones even bulkier and slightly heavier. I think we are going in completely the wrong direction at the moment, but that is just me.
 
I would just like to add my comment to this topic, if I may, that all the people I know around me, everyone without exception, either has the current 17 or the Air. And their biggest reason? The Pro series are just too big and heavy. Price factors in later, it at all, but they all comment, "how can you carry that lump around with you?".

So the nerds and technical users may want big complex phones, but it may be that the average person, who just wants a decent phone, does not want these large heavy, ugly lumps that still need a case. (I well aware that my friends and colleagues are a small sample, but it is interesting to note that all of them use smaller and lighter phones than I currently do: the more technically inclined stopped around the 15 Pro or 15 Pro Max and moved to smaller and lighter phones).

I do know that if the Air 2 lives up to its promise, it will be my next phone. I have reached my own personal limit with the size and weight of the current phones.
 
In the end it is a compromise since technology cannot deliver the camera and battery we want in a form factor that is lighter and less bulky than the current, in my opinion, somewhat ugly crude slab that we are forced to carry around with us. And, on top of that, one of my favorite complaints, they fail in one other major department. They self destruct when dropped without a case. And that case makes the phones even bulkier and slightly heavier. I think we are going in completely the wrong direction at the moment, but that is just me.
That's not true, look at the Samsung phones for example. Lots of cameras, big batteries, and low weight.
 
I think that next year's radical redesign for the 20th anniversary might come with a slimmed down and more premium feeling iPhone. I think that the thick aluminum unibody has its advantages regarding heat dissipation but was a step backwards and it feels less "premium" than the stainless steel/titanium predecessors.
 
When will Apple implement silicon-carbon batteries? It is a huge boost for the device's longevity. Come on, Apple do something…

PS: if someone interested in Jobs aquarium story Google it, it is so based)))
 
I really hope the iPhone 19 Pro starts to get lighter, although it could be another 2-3 years before we get to that point.
 
I think that next year's radical redesign for the 20th anniversary might come with a slimmed down and more premium feeling iPhone. I think that the thick aluminum unibody has its advantages regarding heat dissipation but was a step backwards and it feels less "premium" than the stainless steel/titanium predecessors.
it was only a partially titanium iPhone, but I agree it feels more premium only if you doesn’t use a case in it )
 
That's not true, look at the Samsung phones for example. Lots of cameras, big batteries, and low weight.
You have a point and I had completely forgotten about the current Samsung releases. This makes the issue an Apple thing and not just a technology issue.

I had the S25 Ultra alongside my iPhone at the time (I think it was the 16 Pro Max) and I noted that the Samsung was actually heavier but felt thinner and less bulky in use (no camera plateau/bump and the case brought the back of the phone flush with no camera bumps). I think it was a trick of the design. Overall I prefer the Samsung phone designs over the current Apple designs. Somehow the Apple phones look clunky and crude and the Samsung's look slim and elegant in a way that Apple just do not seem to be able to achieve.

I remember thinking that my ideal would be the Samsung design with iOS. Android was always a pain to deal with. It is incredibly flexible but the number of interacting settings and complexity introduce by having Google and Samsung eco-systems mixed up on the same phone was a pain. iOS is much simpler but less flexible. However, if the Samsung phones had worked better than they do with my Apple laptops, watches etc. then I would have a Samsung phone.
 
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Better Camera, Bigger battery all a prelude to a higher price of $200-$300
Too bad Apple is going with Aluminum instead of Titanium even though Aluminum allows for better heat dissipation
 
All of us small phone lovers

If they made a new SE or mini and you can only get it by paying them $25 per month in perpetuity, would we want it?
 
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