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Hm...

Sure it does, It's a pandora's box. Once the system is broken and more and more documentation is built about the system, then we will likely face a greater likelyhood of iPhoneOS malware.

Kinda like all the malware on the Mac OS? ...oh, wait.
 
Almost too easy....

2.0 isn't released till June the only reason not to release till june is they are actively working on it. I wouldn't expect the method to still work on the release.

Seems likeApple are toying with the JailBreakers.
They are most likey reviewing the jailbreak method right now.
to know exactly who it was.

The legal team is on the way.
 
Apple, please do a better job. Shut down the jailbreakers.

So, as an AT&T employee, do your calls on the iPhone actually connect the first time, and does the audio not drop out without dropping the (billed) connection?

I had to GO BACK to a 5 year relationship with T-Mobile after 1 1/2 months of iPhone use because calls would not connect and neither Apple nor AT&T would stop pointing the figure at each other. With a jailbroken iPhone, I could have kept the great phone but ditched crappy AT&T. Oh, and T-Mobile PAID for the termination fee from AT&T..."Welcome back to T-Mobile. Is there anything else I can help you with today?"

Also, recently T-Mo has emphatically stated that their 3G is being rolled out "during the warmest months of 2008" or so says their CEO Hamid Akhavan at Mobile World Congress.
 
With a jailbroken iPhone, I could have kept the great phone but ditched crappy AT&T.

Just a terminology point.

Jailbreaking = installing software/apps
Unlocking = allowing you to use another carrier.

One usually leads to another, but they are fundamentally different.

oh my bad i just figured you valued actually being able to use your iphone as more than a paperweight. :rolleyes:

It's a valid point, I'd sacrifice battery life for a constant IM connection.

arn
 
People just are willing to spend money for a apparently good cause. Then again, the iPhone and touch shouldn't have been so limited in the first place. So ya for the jailbreak!
 
Sure it does, It's a pandora's box. Once the system is broken and more and more documentation is built about the system, then we will likely face a greater likelyhood of iPhoneOS malware.

If you stick with jailed FW, apple will cover you, they aren't going to let "malware" go through their system, and get onto iphones. Anything is hackable, apple cannot stop it.
 
Just a terminology point.

Jailbreaking = installing software/apps
Unlocking = allowing you to use another carrier.

One usually leads to another, but they are fundamentally different.



It's a valid point, I'd sacrifice battery life for a constant IM connection.

arn

Correct but A comes before B. Mmm, I still miss my iPhone...I guess I get to start saving up again. LOL.
 
So, as an AT&T employee, do your calls on the iPhone actually connect the first time, and does the audio not drop out without dropping the (billed) connection?

I had to GO BACK to a 5 year relationship with T-Mobile after 1 1/2 months of iPhone use because calls would not connect and neither Apple nor AT&T would stop pointing the figure at each other. With a jailbroken iPhone, I could have kept the great phone but ditched crappy AT&T. Oh, and T-Mobile PAID for the termination fee from AT&T..."Welcome back to T-Mobile. Is there anything else I can help you with today?"

Also, recently T-Mo has emphatically stated that their 3G is being rolled out "during the warmest months of 2008" or so says their CEO Hamid Akhavan at Mobile World Congress.

Did you have a 1.1.3 iPhone?. I had horrible experiences with dropped calls with that firmware that are all fixed in 1.1.4. AT&T has generally been very good for me the 2 or so years I've had them with very, very few dropped calls.

1.1.3 was a disaster for me though.
 
Apple, please do a better job. Shut down the jailbreakers.

I can understand people not being interested in jailbreaking their own phones, but I can't understand why so many people are so vehemently against other people doing stuff to their own phones. If I have a jailbroken phone, it doesn't affect you in the slightest.

As to this new jailbreak, great news.
 
So, as an AT&T employee, do your calls on the iPhone actually connect the first time, and does the audio not drop out without dropping the (billed) connection?

I had to GO BACK to a 5 year relationship with T-Mobile after 1 1/2 months of iPhone use because calls would not connect and neither Apple nor AT&T would stop pointing the figure at each other. With a jailbroken iPhone, I could have kept the great phone but ditched crappy AT&T. Oh, and T-Mobile PAID for the termination fee from AT&T..."Welcome back to T-Mobile. Is there anything else I can help you with today?"

Also, recently T-Mo has emphatically stated that their 3G is being rolled out "during the warmest months of 2008" or so says their CEO Hamid Akhavan at Mobile World Congress.

the problem with T-Mobiles 3G is they have added yet another division in the US market, pretty much the opposite of what we need.

It's a valid point, I'd sacrifice battery life for a constant IM connection.

arn

hey if you want to carry your charging brick with you and plug in to fill your battery up during your day thats up to you. :p i just get the feeling that when people say "oh yes 3G and lots of background applications please" they dont really understand the impact that will have on their battery life. just talking on 3G is the most killer thing, you dont even have to access the internet to drain it.
 
hey if you want to carry your charging brick with you and plug in to fill your battery up during your day thats up to you. :p

... yep, it is up to me. That's exactly the point.

I don't watch video on my iPhone, but I don't begrudge people who do even though they get less overall battery life for it.

arn

p.s. I have a car charger.
 
Did you have a 1.1.3 iPhone?. I had horrible experiences with dropped calls with that firmware that are all fixed in 1.1.4. AT&T has generally been very good for me the 2 or so years I've had them with very, very few dropped calls.

1.1.3 was a disaster for me though.

It was probably 1.0.1. I bought it the day it came out, and returned it before my second bill was mailed.

I once called AT&T and was placed on hold for more then 3 hours. I figured hey, its a free call, let him do his thing. The call finally dropped so I called back, only to find that they had been closed for nearly 2 hours. Apple said that if the phone had signal then it wasn't their fault; AT&T said that since it was an Apple device then it was Apple's problem. I was even asked by an AT&T rep why I would want an iPhone, "What, you couldn't afford an iPod--how'd you get an iPhone?!"

This isn't a new problem though...I bought the Black RAZR when it came out about summer of '05. It too had the same problems with dropped audio, not connections.
 
The is nothing Apple can do. There is no law or contract that is violated by this. If it is my phone I can run what I like on it.

Isn't jailbreaking the iPhone 2.0 software a breach of their NDA? I'm sure Apple put that in the Beta-release License Agreement somewhere.

And for the people who say you can run whatever you want on your iPhone just because you want to, that isn't necessarily true. Apple regulates this kind of stuff all of the time. It is illegal to run OS X on non-Apple hardware (except for virtualization of Mac OS X Sever, IIRC). Point being, when you use Apple products, you agree to their terms, and that is a contract whether you like it or not.

Unless there is something different about the iPhone, I don't see why people breaking the law should be encouraged. If I am misinformed about this issue, please correct me! :)
 
They're cut from the same cloth and that cloth is named GREED.

Whoa, this guy's on to something! Turns out companies exist to.......MAKE MONEY!!!

There will ALWAYS be corporations that control. There will ALWAYS be self-righteous people who get pissed about it, while the gifted ones attempt to start the "revolution", and those same revolutionaries will ALWAYS turn into the suits they once hated, once their ideas take off. Get over it.

Magnum, I don't mean to dump all over just you....it's just posts and posts of built up garbage and it had to come out sometime :p


Anyway, on a lighter note, lets all cheer on the hackers for jailbreaking! And then act confused and blame Apple when they write a virus that brings all of our phones down......
I don't quite understand, however, why the writers of the jailbreak made it public so soon? It just gives Apple a chance to fix the hole. If I were them I would wait until 2.0 is released. Then again, what is hacking if not a cause for bragging rights?
 
It is illegal to run OS X on non-Apple hardware (except for virtualization of Mac OS X Sever, IIRC).
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Unless there is something different about the iPhone, I don't see why people breaking the law should be encouraged. If I am misinformed about this issue, please correct me! :)

It may break the EULA (end user license agreement) but it's not "illegal" in the usual sense of the word. In that Apple can't call the cops on you for it. They can maybe sue you for some breach of contract, but it's not "against the law", it's just "against an implicit agreement between you and Apple.". However, the actual enforceability of EULAs are up for debate.

Why do you need a constant IM connection?

To keep this site updated in a timely manner. :) I'll be thrilled if a legal iTunes app can emulate a constant IM connection. I don't go through the trouble of jailbreaking my phone because I don't have to time to keep up with it. But I see the need for a constant IM connection.

arn
 
That was ridiculously fast. Gives me hope for a 3G phone running well on T-Mobile.

Not gonna happen. T-Mobile's 3G will be on 1700/2100MHz, while AT&T's is on 850/1900MHz. And I don't think Apple will add extra bands for a carrier that it doesn't support.
 
Man this is great news. If it allows me to run some emulators and a decent VoIP client on the iPhone, I'd buy one sometime.

This is stuff the iPhone should have been able to run at launch, but presumably apple thinks our rights on the iPhone are for sale...
 
Maybe for the same reason you can't be sued for putting whatever software you want on a PowerMac or a PC running Windows. Apple needs to learn that people are going to put what THEY WANT on their desktops, laptops and smart phones, not what Apple wants them to put on it. Others just seem to think that's OK. Personally, I hate fascism in any form. I say thumbs up to jailbreak, bypassing Apple stores, monopolies and general denial of freedom of choice. While I like Macs better than PCs because of OSX, I don't like Apple any better than Microsoft. They're cut from the same cloth and that cloth is named GREED.

Freedom of choice doesn´t mean that you are allowed to do everything you want! It means that you have the freedom to choose whether you want to pay for a product or not. Jailbreaking is just illegal!!
 
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