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This big difference is the 1st gen iPhone with 1.1.4 software was rock solid.
We got used to having a stable phone from our first experience with an Apple phone and expected the 3G or 1st Gen with updated software to run the same or better.

It's been a big let down for many of us.

Isn't that the truth, i couldn't agree more. Oh how I loved 1.1.4. Rock solid no crashes, everything just worked on it! Loved it. 2.0 rolls around, granted I really like some of the features but I feel like we are the beta testers and this version isn't the final version for mass use.
 
Are you kidding me? It was not rock solid, it also had lost of issues that took a few big fixes to work out.

Clearly you didn't own the first gen iPhone then

1.1.4 NEVER HAD ISSUES also there were no more bug fixes it was 1.1.4 then 2.0
 
Why has the push API or lack thereof been totally ignored on these forums? If it's not there in 2.1, that's a big letdown on a promised feature.
 
Why has the push API or lack thereof been totally ignored on these forums? If it's not there in 2.1, that's a big letdown on a promised feature.

Because we know it will come. Sure we would prefer it now, but right now we have to focus on what we KNOW is coming.

Also Jobs never said it WASN'T he may have found it unneeded because he already said it would come in September. Not likely but who knows?
 
Well, Steve did promise that the bug fixes would improve...

* Battery life.
* Dropped calls.
* OS and app stability.

And also added that there would be "other performance enhancements." I think by "performance enhancements" he means no lag in Contacts or SMS typing, for example. Nothing Steve said yesterday about the 2.1 iPhone update alluded to any new or secret features, so, don't get your hopes up.

I think most people will be happy to have a stable, fast phone that actually works and lasts all day long.

Wasn't the last update supposed to "stop SMS lag" as well? I can tell that worked well... :rolleyes:
 
Well, Steve did promise that the bug fixes would improve...

* Battery life.
* Dropped calls.
* OS and app stability.

And also added that there would be "other performance enhancements." I think by "performance enhancements" he means no lag in Contacts or SMS typing, for example. Nothing Steve said yesterday about the 2.1 iPhone update alluded to any new or secret features, so, don't get your hopes up.

I think most people will be happy to have a stable, fast phone that actually works and lasts all day long.
These aren't performance enhancements, these are bug fixes. The push api is something that enhances performance. Let's not sugar coat this.
 
Isn't that the truth, i couldn't agree more. Oh how I loved 1.1.4. Rock solid no crashes, everything just worked on it! Loved it. 2.0 rolls around, granted I really like some of the features but I feel like we are the beta testers and this version isn't the final version for mass use.

man finally someone that is on the same page that I am on...imagine how it is when you have executives that are complaining about dropped calls...this firmware was NO WHERE NEAR ready for prime time...RUSHED RUSHED RUSHED...2.1 BETTER FIX performance and reliability.

....and one more thing....Apple, you want to get into the enterprise? You better start coding and testing better because you are failing so far, and this is from a 1st gen iphone user from the day it came out and every update since...GET IT TOGETHER.
 
Clearly you didn't own the first gen iPhone then

1.1.4 NEVER HAD ISSUES also there were no more bug fixes it was 1.1.4 then 2.0

You must be joking. I could crash Safari on demand with 1.1.4 and had multiple friends in the same boat. It wasn't as bad as 2.x, but saying it never had issues is insanity.
 
What happened to the hidden new features 2.1 was going to get. I hope there's more to come by the end of sept.:apple:
 
Remember that iPod Touch firmware 2.1 ≠ iPhone firmware 2.1.

That's not what I've heard or seen myself. I've heard they are identical which makes sense. Less stuff to keep track of and maintain. All they have to do is include a couple if then statements for it to work. If 'iPhone' then show 'phone icon'.
 
I am supposed to get excited about bug fixes? You are kidding me?
Yeah, we are the largest beta test group ever... and we're all paying for it too boot.
This is the ONE time I didn't care about no new features. I just want a stable OS for my phone! No more restarts, apps crashing, getting my phone replaced, etc.

Friday can't come quick enough!!!!!
Is it just me, or are these the kind of comments you'd expect to find on a Windows Vista forum? Sad state of affairs when these things are being said about a product based around OS X. :(
 
Then why have all the previous software updates been released at the same time for both devices?

Maybe this time they learned to stagger the release so that their servers don't get hammered?? Also, it was an iPod event...let them Beta it first. :cool:
 
Release time?

Question for now is when 2.1 for IPhone will be released Friday. Very early Friday morning or later in the day? I am hoping to grab it before I go to sleep!
 
Question for now is when 2.1 for IPhone will be released Friday. Very early Friday morning or later in the day? I am hoping to grab it before I go to sleep!

I would think they would release it pretty early. I would hope they do it at like 3AM EST time so other countries can start downloading while they are waking up while most people in the US are sleeping. That way there isn't a huge surge of people downloading at the same time from all over the world.
 
Ozzie Rules?

I would think they would release it pretty early. I would hope they do it at like 3AM EST time so other countries can start downloading while they are waking up while most people in the US are sleeping. That way there isn't a huge surge of people downloading at the same time from all over the world.

Come one then.. has anyone in Ozzie downloaded it yet? Its Tuesday morning.. are they waking up to a surprise down-under?
 
Come one then.. has anyone in Ozzie downloaded it yet? Its Tuesday morning.. are they waking up to a surprise down-under?

Oh good point, they could probably release it in different places at different times depending on where the iTunes account is registered, although that wouldn't be very nice for the US so many hours in the past
 
Think outside the pond...

Oh good point, they could probably release it in different places at different times depending on where the iTunes account is registered, although that wouldn't be very nice for the US so many hours in the past

Poor USA, our thoughts go out to you at this time of need. :D
 
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