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iPhone 2.1 Firmware Coming on Friday: Bug Fixes, Connectivity and Battery Life
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You already can download image/photo attachments. Just hold your finger on the picture like in safari, and you get an option to download it to your photos app.
Crashes... bad firmware.. HA I laugh in their face....
Here's one.. People here are moaning about the crashes, the restores and the i issues with the iPhone 3G.. Have any of you EVER tried using Windows Mobile devices?? If you have you wont be complaining about a crud operating system that hogs your device.
Microshaft have had YEARS to sort their mobile OS but its SO SO behind Apple, and considering how many devices Apple have launched with a mobile OS on them its a pretty good effort.
I have spend hundreds of pounds buying software for Windows Mobile... mainly not to ENHANCE the experience like Apple Apps, but to actually get some basic functionality to be better.. calendar, email etc..
Go use a Windows Mobile for a couple of weeks, load it up with similar apps and see how lucky you are that you have an iPhone...
Trust me.. the grass is always greener on the other side
Here's one.. People here are moaning about the crashes, the restores and the i issues with the iPhone 3G.. Have any of you EVER tried using Windows Mobile devices?? If you have you wont be complaining about a crud operating system that hogs your device.
Microshaft have had YEARS to sort their mobile OS but its SO SO behind Apple, and considering how many devices Apple have launched with a mobile OS on them its a pretty good effort.
I have spend hundreds of pounds buying software for Windows Mobile... mainly not to ENHANCE the experience like Apple Apps, but to actually get some basic functionality to be better.. calendar, email etc..
Go use a Windows Mobile for a couple of weeks, load it up with similar apps and see how lucky you are that you have an iPhone...
Trust me.. the grass is always greener on the other side
Shake to shuffle for the iphone, please?
no, not in this update..
that will be the main feature for the iPhone 4G
Yes. I own an Omnia. It works better for me than the iPhone did.
Stop making excuses. The iPhone is currently less stable than both the Omnia and the HTC Diamond (which believe me aren't perfect).
Bulls**t. The Outlook sync function on Windows is still the one to beat for functionality. As for e-mail, WinMo supports full e-mail functionality for multiple accounts.
As for apps. Care to point out where I can get mobile office for the iPhone?
I have. The phone I have suits my needs better.
Trust me.. the grass is always greener on the other side
No it's not but using a strawman to try and cover up the flaws in the iPhone's current firmware isn't particularly clever especially when your arguments are largely a load of crap.
BongoBanger stop complaining just to complain. If you like the Omnia so much then USE IT and stop whining about it.
Sorry to jump in BUT i also am a win mob user for last couple of years and have tried out atleast 3 diff manufacturers in these years for extended period. Last being HTC but my observations are as below in Bold
Well if i can endure some 6 upgraded firmware on winmob which pretty much didnt solve any issues, i can very well bank on Apple which atleast is showing some pretty darn changes (for the good) with each upgrade.
Yes. I own an Omnia. It works better for me than the iPhone did.
Stop making excuses. The iPhone is currently less stable than both the Omnia and the HTC Diamond (which believe me aren't perfect).
Its your personal opinion and i respect that, but i have used diamond and it still has same ol memory hogging issue (less compared to Touch but still there) and voice clarity is pathetic compared to iPhone
Stability is debatable, load them with loads of 3rd part apps and then compare. A virgin iPhone is rock solid even on 2 software. I intentionally did try this to find out the effect of 3rd party apps and i had no issue what so ever till i started loading 3rd part apps. On win mob, on the other hand watch the memory usage slowly fill up with regular stock apps (that came with the phone)
Bulls**t. The Outlook sync function on Windows is still the one to beat for functionality. As for e-mail, WinMo supports full e-mail functionality for multiple accounts.
As for apps. Care to point out where I can get mobile office for the iPhone?
Completely agree, functionality wise Mob Off and Active sync are a league apart, but form wise pretty basic. I for one cant/dont have patience to type long emails on HTC touch screen devices, iPhone i have been replying to lot many more of work emails
I have. The phone I have suits my needs better.
Glad to know you like your devices, and all the very best. After few years of won mob and one year of resisting classic iPhone, i can say i dont have any regrets now that i moved to iPhone 3G. Very sure the niggles are and will be addressed by Apple soon
Well if i can endure some 6 upgraded firmware on winmob which pretty much didnt solve any issues, i can very well bank on Apple which atleast is showing some pretty darn changes (for the good) with each upgrade.
I am, sparky. I'm not complaining about the iPhone cos it's a great device. I'm pointing out that the firmware has issues and disingenious comparisons to other phones and mobile operating systems ain't going to change that.
As jaggunothing points out - and I respect his reasoned counterpoints - the iPhone still has issues. Will they be resolved? Yeah, very probably but that doesn't mean they're not there so your grass is greener argument is just, quite frankly, a load of bollocks.
Now v2.1 might. Let's see, shall we?
My Omnia does those.
My Omnia has a tactile feedback QWERTY in landscape and portrait plus T9 and condensed QWERTY. The one thing I wish it had that the iPhone does is the letter notification when pressed and a central spacebar in landscape. Apart from that it's just as easy to use.
Two in three weeks so far.
As opposed to Apple filling their home screns with proprietary crap?
Is it better? For me yes, for others probably not.
Your stawman has been blown away.
Here's one.. People here are moaning about the crashes, the restores and the i issues with the iPhone 3G.. Have any of you EVER tried using Windows Mobile devices?? If you have you wont be complaining about a crud operating system that hogs your device.
Microshaft have had YEARS to sort their mobile OS but its SO SO behind Apple, and considering how many devices Apple have launched with a mobile OS on them its a pretty good effort.
I have spend hundreds of pounds buying software for Windows Mobile... mainly not to ENHANCE the experience like Apple Apps, but to actually get some basic functionality to be better.. calendar, email etc..
Go use a Windows Mobile for a couple of weeks, load it up with similar apps and see how lucky you are that you have an iPhone...
Trust me.. the grass is always greener on the other side
Hear hear!
My win-mob phone was the most godawful POS I've ever had the misfortune of using. The interface was horrendous at best, it was buggy, slow, call quality marginal, speakerphone non-existant, it weighed half a ton and my favourite refrain with it was "god I hate this phone!". Its only redeeming feature was that it was fairly sturdy.
You haven't truly experienced hell until you've suffered one of these abominations. My iPhone brings me joy in comparison.
its not a competition
All i know is that I've been using Windows Mobile since they were invented, and on the Psions before that.. I had the first batch of Ipaq's in the UK when they were released probably about 8 years ago now..
As A PDA only they were revolutionary. When they introduced the 'phone' side of things, with the big handsets etc they were terrible, they were 1st gen and awful, 2nd gen (which is where we are now with iPhone) were also horriffic. People complain about battery life and dropped calls.. 70% of the time on WinMo there was no way of even making calls because the thing froze.. ok So apples apps crash.. but the whole phone sort of settles and is useable again.
The most used button on any of my WinMo phones was the reset thing underneath. It would need pressing with the stylus about 6/7 times a week at least, and the phone would take several minutes to reboot.
For a 2nd gen device, the iphone, IMO is pretty much the best balance of usability and PDA and entertainment I've ever had.. and i've had a LOT of phones and devices.
Which Phone/PDA has a good a music player as the ipod? Have any of you tried syncing a WinMo device with your music library through that god awful Windows Media Player? Its rubbish. It takes forever and Winows Media player files music like a retarded dog.
All i say is dont complain about your iPhones too much until you've tried another OS.. and yes Symbian is not that great either these days.
If there's some fixes that make the iPhone snappier then bring them on.
Do you realise how long Microshaft take to release updates? Even when they did the Operators didn't release them for another year.. so they could 'test' the ROMS.. (put their own crap on the ROM and remove features and change the colour schemes etc) after which you'd replaced your handset anyways.
WinMo has its market, but never have I had a phone and not NEEDED to add anything to it to make it work properly. iPhone IMO doesn't need other stuff on it to give you a good experience, you need the apps for a better experienced.
All i know is that I've been using Windows Mobile since they were invented, and on the Psions before that.. I had the first batch of Ipaq's in the UK when they were released probably about 8 years ago now..
As A PDA only they were revolutionary. When they introduced the 'phone' side of things, with the big handsets etc they were terrible, they were 1st gen and awful, 2nd gen (which is where we are now with iPhone) were also horriffic. People complain about battery life and dropped calls.. 70% of the time on WinMo there was no way of even making calls because the thing froze.. ok So apples apps crash.. but the whole phone sort of settles and is useable again.
The most used button on any of my WinMo phones was the reset thing underneath. It would need pressing with the stylus about 6/7 times a week at least, and the phone would take several minutes to reboot.
For a 2nd gen device, the iphone, IMO is pretty much the best balance of usability and PDA and entertainment I've ever had.. and i've had a LOT of phones and devices.
Which Phone/PDA has a good a music player as the ipod? Have any of you tried syncing a WinMo device with your music library through that god awful Windows Media Player? Its rubbish. It takes forever and Winows Media player files music like a retarded dog.
All i say is dont complain about your iPhones too much until you've tried another OS.. and yes Symbian is not that great either these days.
If there's some fixes that make the iPhone snappier then bring them on.
Do you realise how long Microshaft take to release updates? Even when they did the Operators didn't release them for another year.. so they could 'test' the ROMS.. (put their own crap on the ROM and remove features and change the colour schemes etc) after which you'd replaced your handset anyways.
WinMo has its market, but never have I had a phone and not NEEDED to add anything to it to make it work properly. iPhone IMO doesn't need other stuff on it to give you a good experience, you need the apps for a better experienced.
I think we are all missing the point in that we (as consumers) will choose what suits our needs best. Currently, I have two phones, a BlackBerry and iPhone. Only reason I use the BB is so that I can read and respond to work emails during the day. As soon as I get home and on the weekends, that BB goes away because I don't want to work during my personal time, so I switch over to my iPhone because I like the music and photo features of that phone much better. They all can have a place in your life, but it is us who should continually challenge the companies that make these consumer products for us. In the end, we are the true victors of this game (and isn't that how it should be!?).
Thats the thing, most iPhone users today came from "dumb phones," so this stuff are all new to them.
People who have come from smartphones, such as WinMob devices, the iPhone is still a blessing to us
People who have come from smartphones, such as WinMob devices, the iPhone is still a blessing to us
our iPhone who art in heaven...Update be thy name..
AMEN!
Thats the thing, most iPhone users today came from "dumb phones," so this stuff are all new to them.
People who have come from smartphones, such as WinMob devices, the iPhone is still a blessing to us
AMEN!
I was really hoping iPhone 2.1 would have turn by turn integration, or at least a hit by Steve that it is in the work. Part of the reason I bought the 3G was because of th GPS and it is such total grap, but has potential!
Just b/c they didn't mention in the whole 10 seconds he spent on the iPhone at the iPod event doesn't mean we wont be surprised on Friday
Bronsky - I'm grooving to your beat while drinking the cool-aid
One other thing I forgot to mention was the inability of my WinMob to co-exist in a Mac world. God help me if I tried to sync my POS w/my MacBook Pro. The only workaround available is an abortion called Missing Sync that is so ***king buggy it makes the WinMob look positively stable in comparison.
The final nail in my WinMob's coffin was when Missing Sync stopped working altogether despite toggling "USB Killer" on and off and numerous reinstalls. Rather than be held ransom by MarkSpace to upgrade to yet another buggy POS version I just elected to get the iPhone.
I've had a few chuckles recently while checking out at the Apple store when I notice their handhelds are all Pocket PC's.
So - anyway - back on topic. I've noticed Safari bombing out a few times - I'll be happy when that stops but never as happy as I was when I hung up my Pocket PC for good.
I'm excited for this. I am real curious as to how much improvement there will be to the battery life. I'd say my only disappointment for the phone is battery life. I knew it would be bad going into it, so it's not that huge of a deal. It is just rough watching it go down while using it.
and touches
I believe the firmware just detects the device its installed on to display or not display different features
Well, Steve did promise that the bug fixes would improve...
* Battery life.
* Dropped calls.
* OS and app stability.
And also added that there would be "other performance enhancements." I think by "performance enhancements" he means no lag in Contacts or SMS typing, for example. Nothing Steve said yesterday about the 2.1 iPhone update alluded to any new or secret features, so, don't get your hopes up.
I think most people will be happy to have a stable, fast phone that actually works and lasts all day long.
* Battery life.
* Dropped calls.
* OS and app stability.
And also added that there would be "other performance enhancements." I think by "performance enhancements" he means no lag in Contacts or SMS typing, for example. Nothing Steve said yesterday about the 2.1 iPhone update alluded to any new or secret features, so, don't get your hopes up.
I think most people will be happy to have a stable, fast phone that actually works and lasts all day long.
I agree 100% As much as I would like to have more features, lets get the bugs out of the phone now and then add on bug free improvements.
Here's one.. People here are moaning about the crashes, the restores and the i issues with the iPhone 3G.. Have any of you EVER tried using Windows Mobile devices?? If you have you wont be complaining about a crud operating system that hogs your device.
Microshaft have had YEARS to sort their mobile OS but its SO SO behind Apple, and considering how many devices Apple have launched with a mobile OS on them its a pretty good effort.
I have spend hundreds of pounds buying software for Windows Mobile... mainly not to ENHANCE the experience like Apple Apps, but to actually get some basic functionality to be better.. calendar, email etc..
Go use a Windows Mobile for a couple of weeks, load it up with similar apps and see how lucky you are that you have an iPhone...
Trust me.. the grass is always greener on the other side
This big difference is the 1st gen iPhone with 1.1.4 software was rock solid.
We got used to having a stable phone from our first experience with an Apple phone and expected the 3G or 1st Gen with updated software to run the same or better.
It's been a big let down for many of us.