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iPhone 2.2 Firmware 10 Days Away?
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If we want to be picky, most smart phones have an office suite. The iphone is a beautiful handicapped phone. The Ipod touch is an amazing PMP and PDA. However, the iphone is lacking some very basic features. I don't really care about this update. If Apple is not going to give us the features everyone wants, at least they should let developers give them to us. I know. It is not going to happen.
Ya, it evolved into a piece of crap phone. I never had any issues with 1.x, now that 2.x is here...nothing but problems.
1.0 wasn't very good and it wasn't until a month or so before the 3G iphone launch that 1.x became stable.
2.x will become stable ... unfortunately just in time for 3.0 to come out and repeat the cycle
C&P
landscape email and SMS
sync notes with notes in leopard's mail
I know many others want MMS (not going to happen) and push (will happen eventually), but the above 3 would do it for me.
landscape email and SMS
sync notes with notes in leopard's mail
I know many others want MMS (not going to happen) and push (will happen eventually), but the above 3 would do it for me.
How do you guys know that these are the ONLY changes to 2.2? What if there is stuff that the leakers are not telling us. Remember when Genius came out? Nobody was expecting that and we only heard leaks about Genius coming to iTunes.
There may be something big that the leakers are hiding on purpose... or perhaps Apple is even hiding it from the beta testers.
There may be something big that the leakers are hiding on purpose... or perhaps Apple is even hiding it from the beta testers.
Improved coverage, again, would be nice. Seeing friends' normal phones / other smartphones pick up significantly better reception, and pick it up in a lot of places the iPhone just can't, is always annoying.
And not only that, but also not lying about reception; e.g. my iPhone has been saying full bars 3G all morning but can't connect to squat. And that's not a rare thing!
As for people wanting landscape this and that - gah why? Options would be nice, but I wish landscape things could be turned off; Safari rotating just because I'm lying down and holding the phone at a not-perfectly-straight-up angle is really annoying! It's much less natural feeling holding the device landscape, and I find typing on the landscape keyboard harder.
And not only that, but also not lying about reception; e.g. my iPhone has been saying full bars 3G all morning but can't connect to squat. And that's not a rare thing!
As for people wanting landscape this and that - gah why? Options would be nice, but I wish landscape things could be turned off; Safari rotating just because I'm lying down and holding the phone at a not-perfectly-straight-up angle is really annoying! It's much less natural feeling holding the device landscape, and I find typing on the landscape keyboard harder.
What a bunch of little whiners!!!
Really guys all this carping about a dead technology (MMS) that never was on iPhone is nothing but BS. MMS was never advertised or even suggested that it was coming to the phone. People need to let this crap and expensive service go as nobody with a grasp of modern technology really gives a damn about it.
As to the whine about the futility of the update, the people so disposed should expect their soles to spend eternity in one hot place. Look at it this way many of use purchased the IPhone for the features it was announced with. Now I know that thought may shock a few of you that expect the iPhone to have things it was never speced with, but those of us that are a bit more rational want what we purchased to work as advertised. First off that means apps that don't crash. second that means getting rid of the non crashing bugs. Lastly we want those apps to become feature complete. However feature complete only after the outstanding items one and two are dealt with. Frankly I don't care how many updates Apple releases as long as they are stabilizing the product I say go for it.
As for PUSH that is another highly over rated tech and honestly does little for the average user. From what I understand the original Push attempt has been scraped so I don't expect to see it anytime soon. Apple might surprise us but even if we get the service I don't see a huge uptake. Push isn't anywhere as useful as back grind apps or better multi tasking. I don't expect multi tasking or background apps any time soon either. Either way Apple won't release until they are happy and secure with the code as they already have had enough bad iPhone press. Frankly, as an iPhone owner, push notification should be the least of anybodies iPhone worries.
It is nice to see concern about any coming update in this forum. But people have to realize that Apple has it's own vision of iPhone and the future of telecommunications. Some of that vision doesn't jive with the lesser wisdom.
Dave
Really guys all this carping about a dead technology (MMS) that never was on iPhone is nothing but BS. MMS was never advertised or even suggested that it was coming to the phone. People need to let this crap and expensive service go as nobody with a grasp of modern technology really gives a damn about it.
As to the whine about the futility of the update, the people so disposed should expect their soles to spend eternity in one hot place. Look at it this way many of use purchased the IPhone for the features it was announced with. Now I know that thought may shock a few of you that expect the iPhone to have things it was never speced with, but those of us that are a bit more rational want what we purchased to work as advertised. First off that means apps that don't crash. second that means getting rid of the non crashing bugs. Lastly we want those apps to become feature complete. However feature complete only after the outstanding items one and two are dealt with. Frankly I don't care how many updates Apple releases as long as they are stabilizing the product I say go for it.
As for PUSH that is another highly over rated tech and honestly does little for the average user. From what I understand the original Push attempt has been scraped so I don't expect to see it anytime soon. Apple might surprise us but even if we get the service I don't see a huge uptake. Push isn't anywhere as useful as back grind apps or better multi tasking. I don't expect multi tasking or background apps any time soon either. Either way Apple won't release until they are happy and secure with the code as they already have had enough bad iPhone press. Frankly, as an iPhone owner, push notification should be the least of anybodies iPhone worries.
It is nice to see concern about any coming update in this forum. But people have to realize that Apple has it's own vision of iPhone and the future of telecommunications. Some of that vision doesn't jive with the lesser wisdom.
Dave
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This appears to be a pretty big time update. It will be interesting to see all of the new functionality. I'm looking forward to it.
On a side note, does anyone feel that the push notifications for apps is going to get swept under the rug like the ability to plug a USB HD into an Airport Extreme Base Station for Time Machine was? I remember SJ specifically mentioning how great it would be to be able to plug a HD into your base station and have Time Machine backup to that drive then talk about it faded. Later, all of a sudden, the Time Capsule pops out of nowhere. It seems as if talk inside of Apple circles has faded in a similar way about the push notification for Apps. I just wonder if it will disappear all together. Any thoughts?
This appears to be a pretty big time update. It will be interesting to see all of the new functionality. I'm looking forward to it.
On a side note, does anyone feel that the push notifications for apps is going to get swept under the rug like the ability to plug a USB HD into an Airport Extreme Base Station for Time Machine was? I remember SJ specifically mentioning how great it would be to be able to plug a HD into your base station and have Time Machine backup to that drive then talk about it faded. Later, all of a sudden, the Time Capsule pops out of nowhere. It seems as if talk inside of Apple circles has faded in a similar way about the push notification for Apps. I just wonder if it will disappear all together. Any thoughts?
Wow. A lot of whining. I guess I understand the desires, but... boy, the iPhone just keeps getting better and better. I'm one of those lucky few who actually bought the iPhone for what it DID and NOT what I thought it might do later on... so everything Apple adds is just more and more gravy. Sure, I'd probably be a little bored with it now if it didn't have native 3rd party apps, but just that alone has been an amazing addition that keeps delivering.
We had some kids over this weekend, for a family get together, and I hooked my iPhone up to the TV and played wedding photos and then played some YouTube videos and movie trailers. People kept asking... "Um, is that your phone?" My boss, who previously had a Treo, doesn't even get half the things I get out of it, and he says he can't live without it. I just started using Fring with Skype, and I'm considering the $9.99 per month, worldwide unlimited calling plan.
For me, Google Streetview (with public T and alternative routing) and over-the-air podcasts are major new features. Combine those with stability enhancements, push notifications, standardization features (allowing iPods to use line-in applications through a headphone jack microphone), and downloading Safari enhancements which may include offline web apps... and its a perfectly reasonable update (including many many other little features).
If they eventually get around to battery sucking stereo blue-tooth, ever requested but hardly necessary cut & paste, and the ever elusive MMS support, I'd be happy... but the skies would not part, and no host of angels would appear. In and of themselves... they are unremarkeable and speak more to the user wanting a mini-computer than a phone.
Personally, I'd like a "software zoom" for the camera, though. Real-time color effects. Auto-snap feature. And, yeah... video would be cool too.
Personally, I want to see be receiving incoming video calls to fring in the middle of PacMan. Then I'll know the iPhone has arrived.
~ CB
We had some kids over this weekend, for a family get together, and I hooked my iPhone up to the TV and played wedding photos and then played some YouTube videos and movie trailers. People kept asking... "Um, is that your phone?" My boss, who previously had a Treo, doesn't even get half the things I get out of it, and he says he can't live without it. I just started using Fring with Skype, and I'm considering the $9.99 per month, worldwide unlimited calling plan.
For me, Google Streetview (with public T and alternative routing) and over-the-air podcasts are major new features. Combine those with stability enhancements, push notifications, standardization features (allowing iPods to use line-in applications through a headphone jack microphone), and downloading Safari enhancements which may include offline web apps... and its a perfectly reasonable update (including many many other little features).
If they eventually get around to battery sucking stereo blue-tooth, ever requested but hardly necessary cut & paste, and the ever elusive MMS support, I'd be happy... but the skies would not part, and no host of angels would appear. In and of themselves... they are unremarkeable and speak more to the user wanting a mini-computer than a phone.
Personally, I'd like a "software zoom" for the camera, though. Real-time color effects. Auto-snap feature. And, yeah... video would be cool too.
They added that. Much later than people wanted, but they finally fixed it. Last I heard. Push notification isn't going away. There's been a lot of focus on it. Its the answer to background processes. They can't just rewind the clock. I just hope they haven't run into major legal problems. The utility of such a service is really unlimited, and will be really hit hard by users when they roll it out.
Personally, I want to see be receiving incoming video calls to fring in the middle of PacMan. Then I'll know the iPhone has arrived.
~ CB
They aren't beta testers, they are registered iPhone Developers. People who would be writing their apps to use these new technologies (like PUSH) and would need access to the feature to test it. If the select few developers who actually have access to 2.2 don't see it, its not coming in this release.
If they are willing to leak all of that other stuff, why wouldn't they leak PUSH? Ethical traitors? Not likely. Breaking NDA is still breaking NDA.
Speak for yourself in silence!
Seriously you need to quite down as every update is worth while if it fixes a bug or other issue.
Now I do understand your position a little bit as I'd love to see Apple start to update it's supplied apps one at a time. Mostly to reduce the lag with respect to bug fixes. One thing is clear though is that that won't happen anytime soon. The reason is simple; there are far to many bugs and issues in the SDK to allow for or even to be sensible to update components one at a time. Stabilization is a key concern to allow for more interesting and complex services in the future.
So yeah Apple update away as we need a solid platform. Note spoken as a developer running into these "issues" constantly.
Dave
Seriously you need to quite down as every update is worth while if it fixes a bug or other issue.
Now I do understand your position a little bit as I'd love to see Apple start to update it's supplied apps one at a time. Mostly to reduce the lag with respect to bug fixes. One thing is clear though is that that won't happen anytime soon. The reason is simple; there are far to many bugs and issues in the SDK to allow for or even to be sensible to update components one at a time. Stabilization is a key concern to allow for more interesting and complex services in the future.
So yeah Apple update away as we need a solid platform. Note spoken as a developer running into these "issues" constantly.
Dave
i'm in the same situation, but i think for me walking directions alone may beat out video recording, custom look, and the ability to hide the stocks app.
Ya, it evolved into a piece of crap phone. I never had any issues with 1.x, now that 2.x is here...nothing but problems.
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What I mean is... what if Apple is hiding a really big feature from the developer seeds.
+1
I love everything about my iPhone except the phone part. 80% dropped calls is a big pain.
Why I want an update!
I had a really good response going to you post then Safari on iPhone crashed. So that is really all the reason I need to install this update. Maybe I can get back to you later but this highlights why I would be happy if nothing but Safari got updated.
Dave
I had a really good response going to you post then Safari on iPhone crashed. So that is really all the reason I need to install this update. Maybe I can get back to you later but this highlights why I would be happy if nothing but Safari got updated.
Dave
Progress
To say that there has been little progress in the iPhone development area is simply ridiculous. When Apple introduced the iPhone, it was entering an arena that is more competitive right now that even the PC market. Month to month, year over year, AT&T will continue to receive payment. Everyone on this forum is well aware of what the overall expenditure is for an iPhone when all said and done with contracts, etc. But this isn't just a iPod Touch, the device operation and system updates are heavily impacted by the AT&T network availability thus sucking their resources dry.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm looking for some 'copy & paste' features big time because it impacts our experience quite significantly. But based off the launch and results so far, Apple really hasn't dropped the ball on giving us what we want. I'm sure their resources just won't allow for every development right now. Plus, if there anything like other companies, I'm sure their developers have a great time with their legal dept.
To say that there has been little progress in the iPhone development area is simply ridiculous. When Apple introduced the iPhone, it was entering an arena that is more competitive right now that even the PC market. Month to month, year over year, AT&T will continue to receive payment. Everyone on this forum is well aware of what the overall expenditure is for an iPhone when all said and done with contracts, etc. But this isn't just a iPod Touch, the device operation and system updates are heavily impacted by the AT&T network availability thus sucking their resources dry.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm looking for some 'copy & paste' features big time because it impacts our experience quite significantly. But based off the launch and results so far, Apple really hasn't dropped the ball on giving us what we want. I'm sure their resources just won't allow for every development right now. Plus, if there anything like other companies, I'm sure their developers have a great time with their legal dept.
I think all the reasonable people are on the same page with this point. It's the kids that suffer from ADD that feel bored that their phone can't double as a can-opener yet. I thought Safari had gotten pretty stable at one point, but alas it hasn't. Anytime a web page takes more than 10-15 seconds to "wrap up", I'm pretty sure that Safari is about to crash on me. It's a nauseating feeling. If it was simply as stable as the desktop version, I'd be ecstatic.
Amen to that. My cousin works at Microsoft. The division he's in charge of REMOVES features from Microsoft Windows. REMOVES. Apple has been tap dancing on a lot of fronts. I honestly wonder how they do it. I'm not sure if they'll be able to avoid a "rumble" related patent suit sometime soon. That features is getting more and more play by the day.
All things considered, my original iPhone is the most amazing purchase I've ever made. Almost 18 months later, and its almost a different product. No other consumer device I've ever purchased has made this many strides in its features without me paying another cent. I'm onto the 3G now, and yet the original phone keeps getting endlessly free updates with awesome new perks. My wife can hardly wait for her Sprint contract to run out.
~ CB