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Well, im just gonna wait until they unlock the 3G iPhone (how long, 2 or 3 weeks?) My Contract runs out in September, so i will either plump for the iPhone plan or Hope hacktivation has begun, as im on O2 anyway.
 
It's a subsidized price. That pretty much ends the discussion.

Everything will get a storage capacity bump at the next September 'special event', but I doubt there will be any changes before then.
 
apple makes $10 a month on iphones, they make $0 on ipod touches. that is why it wont change

I may sell my ipod touch and get an iphone though.

can't I just buy an iphone and then unlock it and but a payg sim in it?
 
Can you buy an iPhone without the contract (and not use the phone part)? I just wanted a Touch, but the iPhone is cheaper and also has a camera and GPS. Is there anyway to buy just the iPhone as a unit, and no contract?
 
Over on HowardForums they are saying that the monthly plans will go up $10 a month for the new phones. If that's true, your net price actually goes up $40 (24 months * the $10 increase = $240 - $200 price "drop" = $40).
 
I was just speculating on the prices as well. It is cheaper to buy an iPhone than a iPod touch of the same size, and the iphone has more features, including a built in camera. They will need to drop the price soon, and i am sure they are aware of this, and we will see something by change by the time the iphones are released in mid July.

Also, just like any cell phone, you dont need to have it on a plan to work, you just cannot access features like internet and phone out. You could still use the mp3 player, games, calender etc on the iphone without a plan. Hell, thats what im going to do, ESPECIALLY if they dont drop the price on the ipod touches.
 
Ipod Touch

I think the potential for the ipod touch has been played down significantly.

However, the potential is infinite.

It doesn't seem like the future has room for the cellphone industry nor their horrid contracts, bills, hassles, etc.

All people need to do is be connected to the web. If I'm connected to the web and YOU are connected to it, we are connected to each other.

Think about it....

ichat....
skype....
AIM.....

These services offer voice chat, messaging, and even video chat. This can all be done without the use of nasty cellphone companies. :eek:

So, give the ipod touch a chance, SJ!!! The potential is limitless. We NEED the ipod touch. We don't need the pains and hassle of having a cellphone and paying 80 bucks a month. SJ, PLEASE, PLEASE, reduce the price and get us all on the web were we want to be. :cool:

The ipod touch can circumvent these hassles, while giving us room for our music!

VIVA LA IPOD TOUCH!!!
 
I was just speculating on the prices as well. It is cheaper to buy an iPhone than a iPod touch of the same size, and the iphone has more features, including a built in camera. They will need to drop the price soon, and i am sure they are aware of this, and we will see something by change by the time the iphones are released in mid July.

Also, just like any cell phone, you dont need to have it on a plan to work, you just cannot access features like internet and phone out. You could still use the mp3 player, games, calender etc on the iphone without a plan. Hell, thats what im going to do, ESPECIALLY if they dont drop the price on the ipod touches.

Can you expand on this? Would I theoretically be able to walk into an Apple store, and buy a 3G iPhone without a plan?
 
come on people

There will be no changes to the ipod touch until september. The only thing that will happen is the 2.0 firmware when that is released, and for the touch, that costs money. Lets hope that new touches will at least ship with 2.0.

Reasons for this:

1) The iphone price is subsidized. The phone is not really cheaper than the ipod so there is no need to correct a pricing discrepancy that isnt really there.
2) The ipod is currently part of the back to school promotion which goes into September. It is apparent that Apple wants to get rid of a lot of them. It is also convenient because it puts the hardware in the hands of more people for when the Apps Store starts selling.

Apple wont make changes to the touch in response to the iphone because they represent two different types of products. The ipod is like a bike, you buy it once and never have to pay anything again and it will keep getting you where you want to go. The phone is a car. You buy it, it comes with more features and seems like the better product, but then you have to keep putting money into it again and again so that it can keep getting you around.

Also, Apple wont make changes to the touch on its own because they are in the middle of a promotion. How can you offer a 300$ prize to people in the first month then only a 200$ prize to the rest of the people. It doesn't seem like a good idea.
 
it seems that this (Touch vs iPhone price) is something that will be around for a bit. with the current educational promition it seems that Apple is making it very easy to snag a Touch for free. Clearing out inventory perhaps?
 
This is how it works: If the iPod Touch's price doesn't get lowered, it WILL become non-existent. So by that logic wouldn't Apple have to lower it if they wanted to keep it on the market? I'm sure they have made oodles of money from the Touch, so why would they want to render it useless and over-matched?
 
I think the potential for the ipod touch has been played down significantly.

However, the potential is infinite.

It doesn't seem like the future has room for the cellphone industry nor their horrid contracts, bills, hassles, etc.

All people need to do is be connected to the web. If I'm connected to the web and YOU are connected to it, we are connected to each other.

Think about it....

ichat....
skype....
AIM.....

These services offer voice chat, messaging, and even video chat. This can all be done without the use of nasty cellphone companies. :eek:

So, give the ipod touch a chance, SJ!!! The potential is limitless. We NEED the ipod touch. We don't need the pains and hassle of having a cellphone and paying 80 bucks a month. SJ, PLEASE, PLEASE, reduce the price and get us all on the web were we want to be. :cool:

The ipod touch can circumvent these hassles, while giving us room for our music!

VIVA LA IPOD TOUCH!!!

This may be true with the Iphone, but I don't believe there is any way to do voice/video chat with the ipod. I do really like your vision of the future, though, and adding a camera and mic to the touch seems like it would make a very powerful devise.
 
halo effect?

I honestly don't think that they would mind too much if the iPhone had that much success. They have always given the iPhone more emphasis than the iPod, so I don't think that having iPod users upgrade to iPhones would be a huge problem for them.

I think they might just be doing what most video game companies do
lose mony on the console (in this case the iphone) and make it back on periferals and games (music, apps, accseories, etc.) also if people like the iphone they will be more likely to buy other apple products such as the highly profitable mac book and mac book pro
 
I think they might just be doing what most video game companies do
lose mony on the console (in this case the iphone) and make it back on periferals and games (music, apps, accseories, etc.) also if people like the iphone they will be more likely to buy other apple products such as the highly profitable mac book and mac book pro
They're not losing money on the iPhone. It's a subsidy, which difference will be paid to Apple by the cell carrier. Just like every other phone on the market...
 
it seems that this (Touch vs iPhone price) is something that will be around for a bit. with the current educational promition it seems that Apple is making it very easy to snag a Touch for free. Clearing out inventory perhaps?
I agree, it seems like they might be clearing out to make room for something.

Can you expand on this? Would I theoretically be able to walk into an Apple store, and buy a 3G iPhone without a plan?

I dont believe so, but that is just speculation. However you can do as you can do now, get them off of the web.


You guys have to think about how it was BEFORE today: $399/16gb ipod touch, $499/16gb iphone. There was a BIG gap in pricing. Now that the iphone has dropped in price, it only makes sense for it to stick with the same pattern, im guessing $249 for an ipod touch.
 
Wouldn't it be more reasonable to assume a price range around $150-160 if it followed the current pattern?
 
Wouldn't iPod Nano have to drop significantly as well then? I'm guessing $75 for the 4GB, $100 for the 8GB.
And this is exactly why I doubt that there will be any price drops. Capacity upgrades, maybe. But price changes, no way. Especially with the American dollar in the toilet.
 
It hasn't been over for that long... Give them some time. $199 maximum worldwide has a meaning, you know?

I'm sorry, but do you really think that apple would give something. As even if it was a low price cut? Apple it's one of the best brands but, they are also one of the most expensive ones. That price wasn't announced world wide, and it was only for the United States. So I don't really know what's the point on talking about enormous price cuts.
 
I'm sorry, but do you really think that apple would give something. As even if it was a low price cut? Apple it's one of the best brands but, they are also one of the most expensive ones. That price wasn't announced world wide, and it was only for the United States. So I don't really know what's the point on talking about enormous price cuts.
I listened to the audio stream (so I can't pull it up again), but he specifically said that $199 was the maximum pricing point. That may be regarding local currencies (€199), but I'm just using the information that was made available.
 
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