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Over on HowardForums they are saying that the monthly plans will go up $10 a month for the new phones. If that's true, your net price actually goes up $40 (24 months * the $10 increase = $240 - $200 price "drop" = $40).

I was doing the same math. Unless we can be proved wrong, I will have to wait until I can justify my family's spending and instead put that extra elsewhere.

-cfs
 
I listened to the audio stream (so I can't pull it up again), but he specifically said that $199 was the maximum pricing point. That may be regarding local currencies (€199), but I'm just using the information that was made available.

Oh ok. My mistake then. But still I ask everyone if you really think that apple would give something to someone. Apple knows how to earn money.
 
16G touch 399 easy to jail break
16G 3G iPhone more than likely easy to jailbreak unlock 299 both have WIFI

Shoot smart money buys the iPhone and hacks it and uses it as his ipod and never uses the phone features. And if he ever re-sells it it's worth more as its a phone.

So something in that price structure has to give.

R

The iPhone 3G are only going to be (initially, at least) available in an Apple Store or an AT&T Store, and you have to activate in in-store (as opposed to through iTunes). That means you have to sign up for a 2-yr contract from the get-go.

Seems to me like the ideal way for Apple/AT&T to stick it to the folks who want unlocked iPhones to use with other carriers.
 
I was set to buy the new iPhone and put my Touch on e-bay. After reading about the new monthly fees for the iPhone 3G... I took my 16G iPod Touch off of E-Bay. Insane to pay close to $100 a month (with texting) for the phone. Sick. My Touch is paid for. No fees. Less stress. So really, the iPhone 16G is more than the Touch after the 2 years.
 
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Sweetbike40 said:
I was set to buy the new iPhone and put my Touch on e-bay. After reading about the new monthly fees for the iPhone 3G... I took my 16G iPod Touch off of E-Bay. Insane to pay close to $100 a month (with texting) for the phone. Sick. My Touch is paid for. No fees. Less stress. So really, the iPhone 16G is more than the Touch after the 2 years.

But how much do you pay for your mobile phone every month (and do you have a data plan)?
 
This is how it works: If the iPod Touch's price doesn't get lowered, it WILL become non-existent. So by that logic wouldn't Apple have to lower it if they wanted to keep it on the market? I'm sure they have made oodles of money from the Touch, so why would they want to render it useless and over-matched?

At the current configurations, the Touch is at stake. The problem with the iPhone is that you can only use it with AT&T. Most people i know will not switch to AT&T, so they got the Ipod Touch. They need to keep the storage of the Touch higher than the phone. Maybe make some other change to it also to keep it unique. They are probably doing the school promotion to get rid of current stock, then will bring out a new one. Until the iPhone is available on more networks, the Touch is a keeper.
 
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But how much do you pay for your mobile phone every month (and do you have a data plan)?

I only pay $35 a month. No need for a data plan, just text. I have the family plan. So that it the price divided by two. I also get a corporate discount. I don't think you get a discount with the iPhone plans.
 
How late do you think Apple would decide to reduce the price of the iTouch, if they indeed decide to?
 
How late do you think Apple would decide to reduce the price of the iTouch, if they indeed decide to?

You should direct that question to apple. People have been predicting a price drop since january and its yet to happen. Nobody here knows more than you do on this issue.
 
I only pay $35 a month. No need for a data plan, just text.

Seems you really have no need for an iPhone, then, so the point is moot.

I also get a corporate discount. I don't think you get a discount with the iPhone plans.

My wife's company gets an 18% discount on any service plan other than the $99.99 Nation Plan and $199.99 Nation FamilyTalk Plans.
 
iPod touch price must be lowered....most people don't see the logic in having to have a contract w/ iPhone but wtv.
 
The technology in the iPhone costs much more to develop then in the iPod touch. Apple must be making over $400 on every 32 gig touch.

They better drop the price before the 26th. I'm going away and have been waiting for the price drop for awhile.
 
How late do you think Apple would decide to reduce the price of the iTouch, if they indeed decide to?
Parts are cheaper. Greater sales lowers the production cost per unit. I just bought a $28 8gb SDHC card. There was profit in that sale. It means memory is alot cheaper than it was a year ago. Despite the belief that ipod have to make all their profit from hardware sales, Apple must know that on average itunes and now the apps store purchases will mean continued profit after the hardware is sold. Best Buy is selling it's 8gb Pilot for $99, and you can bet they are still making money from that sale. The Pilot plays all the same media, has bluetooth and FM/RDS radios, a microphone, and can record both the radio and from the mic. The Touch's wifi and touchscreen is worth something, but not $200 more than the Pilot's price.

Apple has room to lower the price. They just need the will. If Samsung decided to make a phone-free version of it's Instinct, they would force Apple to lower the price of the Touch.
 
How late do you think Apple would decide to reduce the price of the iTouch, if they indeed decide to?

I wouldn't count on it till September when their current promo is over and they're ready to release the next gen Touches.
 
Man if they did drop the 32gb price to around 349$ i would go out and buy one the second it took effect...
C'mon Apple...realize your potential...:D
 
iPhone 16gig = $2,220 (real cost w/minimum AT&T talk+data plan)

iPod touch 16gig = $399


pretty big difference.
 
The touch has to come down in price. It is unrealistic to think it can be sold at the current prices.

It sold yesterday for that price. It can still demand the premium I am sure. Not everyone wants to pay $70/month in phone bills.

If they don't really drop the Touch, and soon I think it would really damage sales.

Hurt sales of iPods and sell more iPhones? Apple wants to sell 10 million iPhones by year's end.

apple makes $10 a month on iphones

No longer true with the iPhone 3G.
 
Yeah--hard to imagine price changing or going significantly lower

Everyone had already said it but I'll echo- it's whiny to suggest that a Touch should drop in price. I like the touch for what it is. I have the 8GB model and use it in support of my iPod 30gb and iPod nano. I have that much music and movies and frankly the touch is my PDA now. It goes everywhere with me. I have a brilliant plan with Verizon (family plan) that I wouldn't trade for AT&T even if the iPhone was guaranteed to stop the violence in Darfur...AT&T sucks and it's business on Apple's end: they have to sell 10M units for both their stock as well as AT&T's. So, it's business and for once with Apple it's honest business.

Get the Touch and be happy if you don't want to:

1. Pay a monthly bill for horrible service and horrible customer service in AT&T

2. Have to buy a data plan to surf the net (depending on where you live, wi-fi can be quite reasonable if not free--all on the TOUCH).

3. Have a great cellphone already and want to use the Touch more for music. movies and surfing--therefore, you don't have to buy the dl's (software updates) if you don't want. I love the updates personally, they are cheesy little suites that help my productivity..I mean really, the touch is my bedroom toy instead of a laptop and or/ tv so if I don't have to get up and get a calculator and can use a scientific one on my touch for $9.99 + other stuff..why in the world would I whine about $10?
 
Of course the Touch isn't redundant at it's current price. Aside from the already mentioned contract, that 32GB model is extremely appealing.

If the iPhone had come out with a memory upgrade, then perhaps a price drop was in order. However there are enough people prepared to pay a little extra for twice the memory, and live free of contracts, to justify the current price.
 
The Touch should come down in price simply to keep in line with the competition. Memory is cheaper. More devices are using touchscreens. Touchscreens must be getting cheaper. I predict we'll either get a Touch with more memory for the same price, or a touch with added features (hardware) for the same price. If the Touch is not improved in either way, it's price must come down. I'll agree it doesn't have to follow the perception of inexpense a $199 iPhone presents. Yet the existence of this thread proves that many will EXPECT it to get cheaper and as such will keep waiting (not buying) for that price cut to come. I believe Apple could move each price point down, condensing the gap between memory models, and still make the same money they were making on the Touch when it was first released. Will they? Not soon enough.

Examples:

8gb touch: $299 to $249. 16gb Touch: $399 to $299. 32gb Touch: $499 to $379. The only difference in these models is memory. I just bought an 8gb SDHD card for $30 retail. I'm still allowing Apple $50 for the first 8gb jump. You can get a 16gb SDHC card for <$70 retail. The wholesale cost of memory is where Apple lowers prices from.
 
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