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iPhone 3.0 to Get MMS, Tethering, and Finally... Copy and Paste?

iSurgeon said:
Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same. Most cell phones can do this.

There seem to be many incompatibilities/problems in the MMS system, both intra-carrier and inter-carrier.

MMS ... I know everyone else uses it, but ... it's just s-o-o-o 1990s! MMS is NOT state-of-the-art and has no place on the iPhone.
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What star trek world do you live in??? Most cell phones don't do email. Everyone I know sends photo texts with MMS, not email. And there are no problems between (major) carriers. And it's not 1990...Most phones didn't get MMS until 5/6 years ago.

BTW - does anyone else here want the nike+ sensor built into the iPhone (like the iPTouch)? I know it requires a hardware upgrade, but then you have the ultimate device.
 
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It's been really funny to read through all of these posts. Most people talk like they are so sure that this feature or that feature is coming. No one knows outside of Apple and it is all just going to be guesses until Tuesday. I love all of the jailbreakers saying that jailbreaking has cured all of their problems. I had my iPhone jailbroken for a while, and I went back because EVERYTHING ran slower and the extra "features" weren't a that they were cracked up to be. I rarely used any of them, and some of the features (like c&p) was poorly implemented and it just drove me crazy. MMS would be nice because most people don't know how to send email from their phone (if they can) I have phone email addresses stored in my contacts, but that doesn't solve the problem of receiving them. Everyone should just chill our and wait for Tuesday. That way we won't get ourselves all hyped up over possible little updates (like when the 3G came out)
 
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned keychain support. That's up near the top of my wish list.
 
DoubleU said:
Essentially whenever one app has access to text that would be useful to have included in another app; such as adding locations to Calendar events; I might find address details on the Internet or in Contacts but the only way to get them into my Calendar is by writing them down and typing them in. Any of the apps that allow free text notes can only have those fields populated by typing. As for the how, whenever a new version of the iPhone firmware is released several apparently viable gesture based options get posited on MR.
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I wouldn't go back to my BB 8830, but I used to be able to turn e-mails into to-do and calendar events with details of the e-mails so when they came due I could review what needed to be addressed.
 
joemama said:
What star trek world do you live in??? Most cell phones don't do email. Everyone I know sends photo texts with MMS, not email. And there are no problems between (major) carriers. And it's not 1990...Most phones didn't get MMS until 5/6 years ago.

BTW - does anyone else here want the nike+ sensor built into the iPhone (like the iPTouch)? I know it requires a hardware upgrade, but then you have the ultimate device.
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I agree that it needs to be implemented. Of course, some may not use it, but there are existing features that some don't use too, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be in place for those who do use them. It's software--- it doesn't hurt anybody to include these features--- especially since Apple is on an optimization streak right now.

Even between iPhones, sending picture messages is very slow, a pain and clumsy (and I don't want a bunch of "fun" pics in my always full inbox/sent box--- keep play for play (SMS/MMS) and business for business (Mail.app).

As far as Nike+, some claim that additional hardware is NOT required (that Nike+ would work with the existing bluetooth capabilities in the phone).
 
For me, MMS would be great. When roaming in Canada, ATT has an horrendous data roaming charge, but I would still like to torment my colleagues in the US with images of powdery slopes and blue skies on the rare occasions they occur :) - Texting is 50c per text and MMS would probably be a little more, but I would not have to turn on data roaming.

iSurgeon said:
Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same.

MMS ... I know everyone else uses it, but ... it's just s-o-o-o 1990s! MMS is NOT state-of-the-art and has no place on the iPhone.
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iSurgeon said:
Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same. Most cell phones can do this. This way, you can see the photo on your computer, iPhone, iPod Touch ... whatever. This is much nicer than the crappy MMS system.
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1) The same bogus argument can be used against SMS.

2) The iPhone's email client is as bad as MMS... it knocks every picture down to 0.3 MP before sending it. So in no way should anyone claim it's better than MMS.

3) Both MMS and SMS use no extra battery while waiting for a message Push, unlike the other so-called "push" mechanisms for phone email (leaving out RIM here).

4) Most of the world doesn't have a data plan for email, although some carriers have their own tiny email mechanism.

5) That Apple, a so-called UI expert, should have implemented the utterly ridiculous MMS retrieval that is used now on the iPhone and ATT, only makes them look bad.
 
Why do we only talk about pictures when referring to MMS on the iPhone when MMS on any other phone also includes sending VIDEOS. Hence MULTIMEDIA MESSAGING SERVICE!!! Multi as in more than one, as in not just pictures, as in video as well!!!

Don't tell me Apple will honestly add MMS with ONLY pictures and then wait another year to add VIDEO.

I want:

-MMS pictures and video
-Video capture and MobileMe/YouTube uploading
-Copy Paste
-New home screen interface/navigation
-Push
-Universal landscape keyboard
-Wireless sync
-All video/movie/tv content added to the iPhone iTunes store
-iChat with front facing camera on the new iPhone in June
-Slightly lax standards on the new SDK to allow true gps apps with turn by turn and more innovation etc.
- BlueTooth A2DP

Here's to hoping! :D
 
Er - has everyone mostly missed the Magenetometer info?

...there has been evidence in the latest version of Snow Leopard's CoreLocation framework (which is shared by the iPhone) that Apple is building in support for magnetometers, which could suggest the use of a digital compass in future devices, much like the Android G1.
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If it's true, that is HUGE potentially.
Tonchidot
Enkin ( who have been *very* quiet for a few months. GOOG / AAPL buy out? http://androidguys.com/?p=2174 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/04/22/interview-enkin-augmented-reality-for-googles-android.html)
Sat Nav
Google Latitude
Google Maps
Google Street View

Your phone new v3 iPhone would know which direction you were facing. And where you were. Add in strong GPU, and a video camera?

Wow. Castles in the sky just got hinted to be closer. We'll see. But I say that Enkin would push C&P desire into a cocked hat.
If Google can help do Mars and Earth in Google app, if there wasn't a competition legal problem, why not branch out into mapping?

Enkin video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V6MNp_tWG0
 
mrr said:
Copy and Paste = Progressive?

Copy and Paste was STANDARD in the 1984 release of the original Mac 128k

Mac 128k = 8 MHz + 128 k RAM - 342x512 b&w - 16.5 lbs
iPhone 3G = 412 MHz + 16 gb RAM - 320x480 color - 4.7 oz
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Not in general, just commenting on the iPhone.
It is a progressive move for the iPhone.
MMS is a regressive move for the iPhone.
 
All so boring. Has no one any imagination?

MMS, c&p, tethering... blah blah blah.

Seriously, this is the best that y'all can come up with? Minor updates to bring the iPhone up to par with the features that other smartphones have had for years?

Where's the imagination? What about UI integration, like folding all info and correspondence (mail, phone, text, calendar) for a single contact into one location. What about innovations such as the entire phone and its search engines changing their personality depending on your location and time of day and your calendar entries? How about being like the Pre and actively gathering information depending on your calendar?

When the iPhone was announced, I figured that Apple, of all companies, would've put a lot of thought into an ingenious new UI. What we got was a 1980s grid of icons and a DOS-like single-application-running system with some glitz.

I want to see something radically different. Something that doesn't require the user to do all the work. Something that thinks ahead for me, knows my habits, quietly helps me out.

Am I alone in these desires? Not just from Apple, from anyone.
 
kdarling said:
MMS, c&p, tethering... blah blah blah.

Seriously, this is the best that y'all can come up with? Minor updates to bring the iPhone up to par with the features that other smartphones have had for years?

Where's the imagination? What about UI integration, like folding all info and correspondence (mail, phone, text, calendar) for a single contact into one location. What about innovations such as the entire phone and its search engines changing their personality depending on your location and time of day and your calendar entries? How about being like the Pre and actively gathering information depending on your calendar?

When the iPhone was announced, I figured that Apple, of all companies, would've put a lot of thought into an ingenious new UI. What we got was a 1980s grid of icons and a DOS-like single-application-running system with some glitz.

I want to see something radically different. Something that doesn't require the user to do all the work. Something that thinks ahead for me, knows my habits, quietly helps me out.

Am I alone in these desires? Not just from Apple, from anyone.
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I have to say you make a good point. It would be nice for Apple to dazzle and surprise us, not just integrate some of the major requests, but to go over the top and bring Christmas early ;-)
 
kdarling said:
MMS, c&p, tethering... blah blah blah.

Seriously, this is the best that y'all can come up with? SNIP

Where's the imagination? SNIP

I want to see something radically different. Something that doesn't require the user to do all the work. Something that thinks ahead for me, knows my habits, quietly helps me out.

Am I alone in these desires? Not just from Apple, from anyone.
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Nope. Not alone.

Apple's had a year. If they're doing yearly updates of the hardware, we should rightly be expecting a lot, and the software to use this, but to also bring improvemnts to the 1st gen and 2nd gen iPhones.

Arguments over MMS are stupid, in relation to what they could offer. I'd say that integration is likely to come strong. Will they change the interface? we'll see. The current interface, though seemingly cute, is also useful by being not overly complex. It's a tradeoff by virtue of the size of the device, and what it's being designed to be able to do.

Pre like features are likely to be coming. OS 2.0 was Leopard. we're still waiting to hear what OS 3 will be based off. They could have changed Cocoa Touch etc, for all we know .Tuesday will shed a bit of light on this.

Apple is going to take people along with them to new OS interfaces/features. See how they slowly added multi=touch gestures. They don't want to freak out there non-uber technical customers with too many options etc. They've likely had to do a lot of background groundwork to get new features ready.
Remember the boos and the hoos about the boring WWDC keynote that brought in the iPhone 3G (it was after an hour of talking!)? It brought in a fair lot actually, features that seem a lot more relevant now. Apple will hopefully have stuff to dazzle us. Sometimes we can't see initially that they're solid features.

Wifi syncing.
Turn by turn sat nav
Enkin like Latitude/ augmented reality app
New UI
Better file and app management
Data integration - unified view of upcoming information
Video creation
Use of Bonjour for iPhone to iPhone iphone to PC communication / ad hoc network creation
Location based services
OLED screen at better size/resolution
Possible off screen multitouch
Magnetometer(s) for cardinal direction, GPS/accelerometers for velocity etc
Offline use - Desire for more implementation of HTML 5 features.
Better app management.
Improvement on Visuals - if we're getting a decent graphics update - why not get a way to have a iPhone connection to monitor cable to output to HD levels?
Push Notification Service
Initial go at giving more background applications / app syncing
Live previews of web sites used / favorites. Some more Safari 4 style way or Pre way to pick site to go to. Predictive page loading if you regularly wake up at the same time= it precaches a recent page or similar.
Tighter integration to 10.6 features.
Better speaker/speakerphone
etc/
 
drewsky5 said:
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... I had my iPhone jailbroken for a while, and I went back because EVERYTHING ran slower and the extra "features" weren't all that they were cracked up to be. I rarely used any of them, and some of the features (like c&p) was poorly implemented and it just drove me crazy. ...
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When will people realize this?!? Apple prevents background applications or copy/paste because these "features" make phones slow and buggy and a pain to use for the other 99% of the population.
 
joeshell383 said:
See above.
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Yea, so the MMS apps don't work through AT&T. O2 managed to set up a web API, and the developers said they were interested in talking with carriers about adding support for their systems.

WWAN isn't as good as tethering your iPhone. Not from a customer's perspective, as it adds monthly charges and adds to the cost of the product, and not from Apple's perspective, as the alternative would give people yet another incentive to buy an iPhone, and the extra radio would add to the cost of the product. If I can tether my laptop for free using my existing contract, why would I pay just to give the radio in my laptop an exercise?

Stability improvements are a must. The old iPhone (1.X) was like a rock - you couldn't make it give no matter what you threw at it. The new 2.X softwares are more like jelly by comparison. Safari is a clear example of this - it used to be fine, but now we have developers claiming they cannot add browsers to their applications because of memory leaks in Safari's code. Random sites crash at random times. This can't go on: we need reliability. We also need some speed improvements: please do away with the cycle of scrolling down a page in Safari and waiting until it renders over the checkerboard: just make it there when we scroll to it!

Rotating applications with the accelerometer is also pretty slow. Other phones, such as the Pre or Storm, are much quicker, and give a more responsive feel.

Top Sites in MobileSafari doesn't have to be an exact copy of the desktop version. I do expect some variation on it in the new Safari, though.

I'd also really like there to be some system where iPhone and Mac versions of the same app (say, Papers) could sync data with each other when I plug my iPhone in to iTunes. Why do I have to connect the iPhone with WiFi and make them sync using their custom software? It's cumbersome, especially whilst travelling, and is a pain if you want to sync multiple applications.
 
this is looking great! i cant wait for the new update. although i dont have an iphone. maybe the update for organization in categories on the ipod touch will be nice!

if its good. i may perhaps leave my blackberry for an iphone. hmmmmmmm!
 
Saladinos said:
SNIP ... of the same app (say, Papers) could sync data with each other when I plug my iPhone in to iTunes. Why do I have to connect the iPhone with WiFi and make them sync using their custom software? It's cumbersome, especially whilst travelling, and is a pain if you want to sync multiple applications.
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Would be interesting to hear mek en tosj's opinion. hopefully there will be a better way though to sync multiple devices just a button or autosync every x minutes to do it over all apps. If they could push it to Apple that would be useful. Maybe they'll offer the feature for those with MobileMe? ...

Some would say just plugging iPhone into iTunes is cumbersome.
 
dwsolberg said:
When will people realize this?!? Apple prevents background applications or copy/paste because these "features" make phones slow and buggy and a pain to use for the other 99% of the population.
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How would copy and paste do this? and if you don't want background apps don't let them run in the background. Just kill it when you're done.
 
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