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iPhone 3.0 to Get MMS, Tethering, and Finally... Copy and Paste?
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U know wat???? After reading 4 pages of comments I have figured this one thing out...
Despite the fact that the iPhone was the phone that was an iPod, phone, and miniature computer with an incredibly responsive touchscreen and amazing UI. we have still managed to complain about something!! The MR community can do anything!! WE ARE SUPERIOR!!!!
Despite the fact that the iPhone was the phone that was an iPod, phone, and miniature computer with an incredibly responsive touchscreen and amazing UI. we have still managed to complain about something!! The MR community can do anything!! WE ARE SUPERIOR!!!!
Are you saying there's nothing to complain about? It's not like everyone here is saying it's the worst phone ever.
You can put all the engine, transmission and paint on a luxury car but would you put manual roll down windows and just an AM radio in it. you would if yu were apple.
IMO that is what they did with the iphone, they left out too many should haves.
Your line of thinking is pretty much how MS thinks and is why most of their products are garbage. Having the user "let" and "kill" apps will just make things more complex since they user now will need to start "worrying" or "thinking" about what is running and what not. I am not arguing that having background tasks is something I don't want but this mentality you are demonstrating is exactly what separates Microsoft and other companies from Apple and the way they go about their products.
The obsession with copy and paste
I would like to see copy and paste on the iPhone. While there's a lot of frustration with not having copy and paste there are so many other critical enhancements and bug fixes to make. I would much rather see copy and paste not implemented or put on hold to have other features and updates. I don't get the copy and paste obsession. It's not as if it was ever on the device. Nice to have, but not as critical as addressing other areas.
I would like to see copy and paste on the iPhone. While there's a lot of frustration with not having copy and paste there are so many other critical enhancements and bug fixes to make. I would much rather see copy and paste not implemented or put on hold to have other features and updates. I don't get the copy and paste obsession. It's not as if it was ever on the device. Nice to have, but not as critical as addressing other areas.
Okay, so one company protects its customers from too much complexity and choice. The other requires the customer to think and choose for themselves.
Which way is better depends on the customer. My wife needs simple things. As for me, I have no problem manually shutting down apps in return for extra abilities.
Somewhere in-between would be nice.
All of my family and friends ARE able to send photos to me via email ... they just need to learn about their cell phones' capabilities. They tell me they can't do it, but, with a little research, they've found that they, in fact, CAN send photos via email. Just because people don't know how to do it doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm sure there are crappy cell phones out there that can't, but none of the people I want to get photos from can't do it.
AT&T's solution to the lack of MMS is laughable. After I got the first SMS notification of an awaiting MMS message, I called the sender and told them to email it to me. Email is so much easier to deal with. It doesn't require a cellular connection and I can view it on a computer. And let's face the facts ... if you have AT&T, you shouldn't count on cellular service.
MMS was already a dinosaur, albeit a very popular one, when it was first introduced. You weren't supposed to take the "so 1990s" statement literally. It's a statement us old folks use to say that something is antiquated. Here's another example. If you see someone wearing an out-of-date fashion, you might say "Mr. Peabody, set the Wayback Machine to the 1990s!", even though the clothing might only be a few years old.
And if people don't like the way the built-in Mail app sends photos, let me introduce you to a place I like to call "The App Store". There are alternatives!
heard that all before and to be honest if its old technology it works very well. Not everyonehas free email/internet access on their phones. ATT charges users to access anything involving the internet. But media net includes MMS from non email acccounts.
Until the providers give all subscribers free email access then MMS will stil be a viable service. Regardless since the iphone is so leaps and bounds ahead of all the other phones well just do without.
I'll take the wait and see approach to the 3.0 update.
However I am willing to bet that cover flow gets added to least one more app. Contacts maybe? I don't use CF but apple seems to be in love with it lately.
However I am willing to bet that cover flow gets added to least one more app. Contacts maybe? I don't use CF but apple seems to be in love with it lately.
I meant file management as you guessed, not app management. Just enough of the finder to save email attachments to folders, load attachments from folders, open files from folders in the appropriate applications, and move files to and from computers or memory sticks that the iphone is connected too. Please pardon my ignorance if such an application already exists.
No, didn't miss it. Have been hoping for just that. Very excited about it. Hope it's true. Would go a long way towards convincing me to upgrade from my first generation iphone. Lots of interesting possibilities.
oh you're right. Thank god Apple isn't giving us options!
It's adorable that you said I'm like Microsoft, that's a good way to make anything I say seem like nonsense (in this forum). Next you'll start calling someone a fanboy, right?
It's great that they don't give us:
copy/cut/paste
MMS
video recording
a good camera
app multitasking (at least daemons!)
push notifications
SMS forwarding
Thank god they don't give us options! At least the app store has forty fart apps, two hundred flashlights and a thousand tip calculators.
They certainly do don't they? I don't use it either though.
But how many apps are people carrying on their phones that they need folders? I only have two screens. Am I abnormal?
The only backgrounding I'd like is audio not from an iPod being able to play in the background.
I have no clue what "CUPS" is, but I definitely think printing would rock. I just got an HP printer with built-in WiFi, and it sho is nice to finally have a printer that works on all three computers (2 Macs, 1 Dell). Apple should definitely be able to work in IP printing at some point soon.
As for the poster who recently mentioned adding cover flow, who wants to bet the Mail app gets it soon? That may actually be useful if it works fast.
When the iphone is perfect in every way......
What will be there be to complain about I wonder after they, Apple, have finally given us everyting we want on the os of the ipone.
reduce the rate plan, the service?
I cant wait to see their strategy after everything is released and available, whenever that will be.
What will be there be to complain about I wonder after they, Apple, have finally given us everyting we want on the os of the ipone.
reduce the rate plan, the service?
I cant wait to see their strategy after everything is released and available, whenever that will be.
I'm sure it's been pointed out before but copy and paste, MMS, video recording and tethering have been available for the iPhone for ages now. You just had to jailbreak the device to install these applications. Apple could have pleased a lot of customers a long time ago by either buying the rights to these pieces of software and/or hiring the developers, the way they did with the folk that created Cover Flow; or at very least not have been so ridiculously restrictive with the App Store.
None of the Apps in question (Clippy, Swirly MMS, Cycorder and PDANet respectively in my case, though there are others out there) would have diverted Apple's resources from fixing other parts of their OS and apps.
Waiting for the 3rd major release of the OS to implement what have been pretty much industry standard functionality for this class of phone for several years now is ridiculous.
They certainly did give you an option. You weren't forced to buy an iPhone. You could have got a WinMob, PalmOS, Android or Berry phone with many of the above features.
But which phone is selling better? That points at the decisions which provided the best, on average, option to the market.
This is probably a noob question but is the software going to be released on tuesday or on a later date?
Innovator's Dilemma
The bulk of the postings here just prove the thesis of the Innovator's Dilemma. Listen to your customers and the vast majority of them (have no imagination whatsoever and) will suggest ideas that are about to become obsolete and eventually drive your company into bankruptcy.
Henry Ford once said: "If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse."
...add to that MMS, cut & paste, and dual buggy whip holders...
The bulk of the postings here just prove the thesis of the Innovator's Dilemma. Listen to your customers and the vast majority of them (have no imagination whatsoever and) will suggest ideas that are about to become obsolete and eventually drive your company into bankruptcy.
Henry Ford once said: "If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse."
...add to that MMS, cut & paste, and dual buggy whip holders...