That's what the letter of their policy says, yeah. I've never personally tried to get two subsidized phones within a two year period though, so I'll defer to your personal experience.
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iPhone 3G Hands On, Notes, and Questions
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That's what the letter of their policy says, yeah. I've never personally tried to get two subsidized phones within a two year period though, so I'll defer to your personal experience.
it's not released yet, things can still change.
Anyone want to start a petition?
We will not buy the 3G iPhone if using GPS is an additional fee.
Anyone want to start a petition?
We will not buy the 3G iPhone if using GPS is an additional fee.
I too had just talked to AT&T. I was told that the new data plans don't include text messages. It's $30 for data plan and starting txt's $5 for 200 msgs and so forth. She said they were trying to make the iphone's data plan equivalent to all data plans for PDA's such as the blackberry.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why anybody would want to buy an unlocked iPhone 3G for use within the U.S. So you can get EDGE data on T-Mobile's network? If you like EDGE, then buy an unlocked, original iPhone, as there are sure to be plenty for sale in the next month. Otherwise, you're pretty much stuck with AT&T, as they're the only carrier that can currently provide 3G on the bands that the iPhone supports.
As an aside, it's about time that the self-proclaimed "Professionals" quit complaining about Apple's recent focus on "Consumers." You've heard of the iMac, right? You remember how that machine helped make Apple profitable again, right? Businesses don't remain businesses without profits. Apple is not a charity, and the Creative Professional community is not large enough to sustain the hardware and software development costs for the company. Without average consumers, the company fails (Early and Mid-90's). If you haven't noticed, the focus on consumers (iPod, iPhone, MacBooks) has done quite a bit for Apple's stock in recent years. While you may long for the day of cutting-edge PowerMacs at the cost of actual profits, I think the guy in charge is doing a pretty good job of delivering what the rest of the world wants. Sorry you can't be the only guy in Starbucks using an Apple laptop anymore.
As an aside, it's about time that the self-proclaimed "Professionals" quit complaining about Apple's recent focus on "Consumers." You've heard of the iMac, right? You remember how that machine helped make Apple profitable again, right? Businesses don't remain businesses without profits. Apple is not a charity, and the Creative Professional community is not large enough to sustain the hardware and software development costs for the company. Without average consumers, the company fails (Early and Mid-90's). If you haven't noticed, the focus on consumers (iPod, iPhone, MacBooks) has done quite a bit for Apple's stock in recent years. While you may long for the day of cutting-edge PowerMacs at the cost of actual profits, I think the guy in charge is doing a pretty good job of delivering what the rest of the world wants. Sorry you can't be the only guy in Starbucks using an Apple laptop anymore.
Tell Me It Aint So Steve
At a trip to the Apple store in NYC today I found out some sad info:
When you get your new 3G iPhone, you have to take it in. They are going to LOCK your iPhone and it will not work as an iPod or WiFi device. This seemed so incredibly stupid that I asked twice.
STUPID JERKS
At a trip to the Apple store in NYC today I found out some sad info:
When you get your new 3G iPhone, you have to take it in. They are going to LOCK your iPhone and it will not work as an iPod or WiFi device. This seemed so incredibly stupid that I asked twice.
STUPID JERKS
JEEEZZ. Worrying about 8/5 % or whatever? There is always sales tax depending on what State you are in!!
Data Only
I was looking at ATT website under PDA and smartphones, and it appears that you can purchase the DATA only for $35usd or $30usd if you buy a voice plan. I wonder if you only get the data plan, will there be a VOIP service you can get from the AP store to allow you to use VOIP?
Just wondering???
I was looking at ATT website under PDA and smartphones, and it appears that you can purchase the DATA only for $35usd or $30usd if you buy a voice plan. I wonder if you only get the data plan, will there be a VOIP service you can get from the AP store to allow you to use VOIP?
Just wondering???
What in GOD'S name are you babbling about?! Please tell me that was a 4th grade attempt at minor humor.
I do not believe that, not even for a second. Nobody in an Apple store, or in an AT&T store for that matter, has any information beyond what is public yet. The corporate decision-makers do not tell the peons anything this far in advance.
follow the leader
Be smart. Do whatever the hardcore Apple enthusiast is gonna do. There's a reason numerous -- and I do mean NUMEROUS -- features were left out yet AGAIN (hint hint).
If you already have a v.1 iphone I see no reason to buy this "updated" one. This release is targeting a very specific group of people...and you know who you are! lol
Downloading the 2.0 software will suffice for now. This is not so much the 2nd generation of the original iphone as it is the 1st generation of the iphone 3G --- make sense?
Be smart. Do whatever the hardcore Apple enthusiast is gonna do. There's a reason numerous -- and I do mean NUMEROUS -- features were left out yet AGAIN (hint hint).
If you already have a v.1 iphone I see no reason to buy this "updated" one. This release is targeting a very specific group of people...and you know who you are! lol
Downloading the 2.0 software will suffice for now. This is not so much the 2nd generation of the original iphone as it is the 1st generation of the iphone 3G --- make sense?
I was looking at ATT website under PDA and smartphones, and it appears that you can purchase the DATA only for $35usd or $30usd if you buy a voice plan. I wonder if you only get the data plan, will there be a VOIP service you can get from the AP store to allow you to use VOIP?
Just wondering???
VOIP might work, but they won't sell you a phone without a qualifying voice plan.
this is off subject but..
does anybody else see that there is no sleep button on the iphone picture (side view) on apple.com? those pictures of the fake product red iphone 3G didn't have on either..
does anybody else see that there is no sleep button on the iphone picture (side view) on apple.com? those pictures of the fake product red iphone 3G didn't have on either..
it'll be free on google maps, jus like it is on all of our smartphones... but if a telenav or another 3rd party comes along they will charge.
Sittin' tight and quite happy for now...
..and as an owner of the 1st gen iPhone from day one, I couldn't agree more. You said it perfectly in 3 simple statements. I've still got a year to go on my AT&T contract, my EDGE works just fine, thank you, and I have GPS in the car already. I'll easily wait another year, paying my still reasonable Data plan WITH SMS, and see what comes out hardware AND software-wise when I'm ready to go another couple of years with AT&T in June of 2009.
..and as an owner of the 1st gen iPhone from day one, I couldn't agree more. You said it perfectly in 3 simple statements. I've still got a year to go on my AT&T contract, my EDGE works just fine, thank you, and I have GPS in the car already. I'll easily wait another year, paying my still reasonable Data plan WITH SMS, and see what comes out hardware AND software-wise when I'm ready to go another couple of years with AT&T in June of 2009.
What to do...
I'm on the fence on what to do. Lets compare plus' and minus' and see which list is longer.
PLUS
3G-I live in a 3G City
Price of phone
GPS
I think I like the new look (black)
Rumored better reception because of plastic back.
MINUS
I work in a non 3G city
Data plan went up
Text Messages no longer included in data plan (has this really been confirmed or is it still speculation?)
Activation in AT&T stores. Horrible. I'd rather go to the dentist.
Plastic Back
Looks kinda even. Still don't know what to do.
I'm on the fence on what to do. Lets compare plus' and minus' and see which list is longer.
PLUS
3G-I live in a 3G City
Price of phone
GPS
I think I like the new look (black)
Rumored better reception because of plastic back.
MINUS
I work in a non 3G city
Data plan went up
Text Messages no longer included in data plan (has this really been confirmed or is it still speculation?)
Activation in AT&T stores. Horrible. I'd rather go to the dentist.
Plastic Back
Looks kinda even. Still don't know what to do.
Good point, really AT&T made it half the cost. That probably will complicate upgrades in the future...
HA HA HA!!! - Apple has the highest profit margins (read markup) of the major hardware companies. Now they'll cover sales tax???
I'm looking forward to it, realizing it is more expensive than even the released original iPhone. Anyone know if you can use bluetooth data to share your 3G internet w/ a laptop? You can do this w/ a Tilt or other internet ready 3G phone.
Maybe if someone wants to sell their old 2G iPhone to me for a good price I'll get that instead...
welcome home
I love it when people finally see the light.
Hey, Apple! You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time!!!
Or can you? It'll sure look like you can come July 11!!
If only there were some way to get this "insider" info that we hardcore fans possess broadcast to the masses so that they won't make an impulse buy they'll regret later (sooner than later, actually) --- hmmmm, but how can we do it?!! LOL
I love it when people finally see the light.
Hey, Apple! You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time!!!
Or can you? It'll sure look like you can come July 11!!
If only there were some way to get this "insider" info that we hardcore fans possess broadcast to the masses so that they won't make an impulse buy they'll regret later (sooner than later, actually) --- hmmmm, but how can we do it?!! LOL
I suppose that would be the smart thing to do. But I love having the latest and greatest gadget. I have had mine since day 1 also. I haven't bought the Apple Care for it thought. Maybe I'll just Get that for $70 (so I can get a free battery replacement sometime in the upcoming year while still under warranty).
It would be nice if the 3G phone went on sale before June 29th. That way I could stand in line at the 3G kickoff, and instead of getting a 3G iPhone I could say, "...no thanks I just want to buy Apple Care for my existing phone and then tell Apple to
replace my battery for free".
so let me get this straight....
if you want the whole experience of the iphone 3g you will pay..
$199 for the phone
$36 activation fee
$39.99 minimum phone plan
$30 minimum internet plan
$5 minimum text messages (200 messages)
$99 yearly for mobile me if you want everything push ($8.25 monthly)
so $236 upfront plus $75 for the first month = $311 out the door
plus $75 + $8.25 = $83.25 + tax time 12 months = $1000 dollars a year
$1000 dollars a year!!!?!!!!!?!!!!!! anyone else see a problem with this?
if you want the whole experience of the iphone 3g you will pay..
$199 for the phone
$36 activation fee
$39.99 minimum phone plan
$30 minimum internet plan
$5 minimum text messages (200 messages)
$99 yearly for mobile me if you want everything push ($8.25 monthly)
so $236 upfront plus $75 for the first month = $311 out the door
plus $75 + $8.25 = $83.25 + tax time 12 months = $1000 dollars a year
$1000 dollars a year!!!?!!!!!?!!!!!! anyone else see a problem with this?
Are you for real? You talk in some strange code. Yes, we get it, we are getting more phone for about the same overall price of ownership. And it's a great deal compared to the other phones out there (especially those on Windows). If people don't like the price, don't buy it.
I on the other hand will have a dramatic spike in my coolness factor on July 11th. I can't ***** wait!!!!
Apple's website
Ok. FYI in case there's somebody living under a rock....
Apple has added substantial content to its website since Monday about the iphone 3G, including demos --- specifically the GPS function...and it looks way cool!
I'm still a bit concerned with others that there will be a charge for this service, but I'm an optimistic guy and will stay positive!
As for another issue that concerns alot of people:
At only $299 for the 16GB version, even if you already own a 1st gen iphone you could still probably afford to upgrade to 3G and not be too pissed off a few months later when you have to spend another $599 for the "real" 2nd generation iphone 3G, which will INCLUDE a front-facing camera, be made of chrome/aluminum, and have all the other features they left out this time hahaha!!!!
I swear, man, Apple is sooo good at gettin' you in a tizzy over what to do!!
Ok. FYI in case there's somebody living under a rock....
Apple has added substantial content to its website since Monday about the iphone 3G, including demos --- specifically the GPS function...and it looks way cool!
I'm still a bit concerned with others that there will be a charge for this service, but I'm an optimistic guy and will stay positive!
As for another issue that concerns alot of people:
At only $299 for the 16GB version, even if you already own a 1st gen iphone you could still probably afford to upgrade to 3G and not be too pissed off a few months later when you have to spend another $599 for the "real" 2nd generation iphone 3G, which will INCLUDE a front-facing camera, be made of chrome/aluminum, and have all the other features they left out this time hahaha!!!!
I swear, man, Apple is sooo good at gettin' you in a tizzy over what to do!!