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email on a pc

Gregintosh said:
It's kind of stupid to make it incompatible with IE7, and presumably IE6. So much for checking your e-mail on a PC now.
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I think maybe it's because IE7 still has some problems with ajax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)

You will still be able to check your email from a PC though -- just use a normal email client (maybe ms outlook) or, as mentioned, you could always use Safari or even firefox. Just don't use IE7! It's not "modern". LOL!
 
chatoyer said:
Perhaps a silly question, but when purchasing mobileme, can it be done entirely online or must I be shipped a box?
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It depends. Apple will always ship you the box (I believe) - however, if you purchase .Mac or Mobile Me via eBay, you can simply get the code.
 
chatoyer said:
Perhaps a silly question, but when purchasing mobileme, can it be done entirely online or must I be shipped a box?
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Should be able to purchase entirely online and activate, definitely if on an Apple.

The boxes just have a code that you type in to authorize the account.
 
ziggyonice said:
And based on the iPhone videos, he's friends with our other good man, Bob.
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And I think is also friend with this guy, the iPhone guide on Italian Apple website. I'm pretty sure that he has been choosen by non-italian Apple people, since they choosed him exactly as "the italian stereotype"...
And if you're italian you can see that his voice has a strong north-east accent. Maybe they could have chosen somebody that can speak italian in the right way...
 

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Anyone meet this one. She's definitely the hottest Apple spokesperson..

Wait is spokesperson a word? :p

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agreed

below should really read permenantly unavaliable. We are at the moment turning it off so say goodbye
 

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one3 said:
Day of the week is wrong - it's Wednesday not Tuesday today
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Actually, it's Thursday.

iPhone goes on sale in Kiwiland in a matter of a few hours. 2.0, 7.7 etc need to be out and running before then.
 
z-man said:
I think maybe it's because IE7 still has some problems with ajax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)

You will still be able to check your email from a PC though -- just use a normal email client (maybe ms outlook) or, as mentioned, you could always use Safari or even firefox. Just don't use IE7! It's not "modern". LOL!
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Oh right .

So it's going to be

"Excuse me Mr Internet Cafe Owner/Friend/Employer/Whoever

I'd like to check my email. But is it ok if I download Safari/Firefox/whatever onto your PC first?"

Not very likely to happen is it?
 
No offense that video doesn't look to believeable....look at the way it was taped... like it was being directed by a seperate person and I highly doubt they will have the small amount...;)
 
Cherimoya said:
"Excuse me Mr Internet Cafe Owner/Friend/Employer/Whoever

I'd like to check my email. But is it ok if I download Safari/Firefox/whatever onto your PC first?"

Not very likely to happen is it?
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lol -- I definitely would agree in that type of situation. You can't really blame Apple though, you'd have to blame Microsoft for not adopting some of the standards which are found in all the other browsers. I'm sure the developers of mobileme did their very best to make it work with all browsers. IE7 just fell short in some way.

It sounds like IE will still work, it's just not fully supported (according to the note) and it will "experience slower performance".
 
Cherimoya said:
Oh right .

So it's going to be

"Excuse me Mr Internet Cafe Owner/Friend/Employer/Whoever

I'd like to check my email. But is it ok if I download Safari/Firefox/whatever onto your PC first?"

Not very likely to happen is it?
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A.) Its not totally incompatible, just doesn't have all the bells and whistles.

B.) Um, who needs internet cafe, etc. when you have an iphone.

C.) If you don't have an iphone, you should.

Problem solved.
 
Email

I send and receive most of my email via a Treo 700p (never been a fan of AT&T) via chatter email and I am happy to report that I can still send and receive email on it.

If any of you are close to my situation, I thought I would post this.
 
You can't really blame Apple though
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Yes, you can. There are alternatives that can be taken to work around problems with usability. There are always solutions in programming to make something work. Apple just refuses to make it easy for Windows users to like them.

Now they have this golden opportunity to offer a unique service that Windows users too would be interested in and be drawn into Apple's products but they decide instead to just piss off Windows users who may dare give them a shot instead of welcoming them with open arms.

With that said, I am going to be happy with my Macbook Air and iPod touch, but I do sometimes want to check my e-mail from a public computer or a friend's computer and so I should be able to check it from ANY such computer.

I don't mind if it turns out that only some advanced features like drag and dropping and editing photos on the fly or something are disabled in IE 7, but I will be really mad if basic e-mail functions like writing, using the address book, etc. have issues.
 
Gregintosh said:
Yes, you can. There are alternatives that can be taken to work around problems with usability. There are always solutions in programming to make something work. Apple just refuses to make it easy for Windows users to like them.
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Come on, now. As has been stated upthread, this is likely due to issues IE7 has with AJAX.

Should Apple hinder the progress of their platform because Microsoft refuses to put out a totally standards-compliant browser? Especially when IE share is dropping, and Firefox and Safari are storming up the charts?

Of course not. If Microsoft wants IE to be competitive in the future, they need to put out stable releases with full functionality, that don't skimp on standards in order to promote their own proprietary solutions. This is Microsoft's issue, not Apple's, and I hardy think Apple should cripple MobileMe to pander to IE's weaknesses.

In any case, there are a plethora of Windows browsers that will work just fine with MobileMe. The only company refusing to make things easy on Windows users is Microsoft.
 
Aloha Gregintosh,

Your response was just a bit harsh on Apple. They did NOT state that all Windows-based browsers would experience trouble with MobileMe - only IE7. As has been mentioned in other posts, both Firefox and Safari, which now runs on Windows BTW, will be able to handle all the AJAX involved in the MobileMe site.

Additionally, why should Apple force their own developers to dummy down MobileMe just to suit IE7 users anyway? Why is it that Micro$haft's own incompetence, with respect to creating a standards-compliant browser, should be something for which Apple must account? Micro$haft has for years forced their own proprietary "standards" on the rest of us, purely through sheer numbers of the lemmings, like myself until 2006, who shell out their hard-earned cash for the craptactular offerings from Redmond.

Perhaps my response to you was a bit harsh. I apologize for stepping on any toes, but I resent the notion that Apple is constantly out to "get Micro$haft." This time, Micro$haft only has themselves to blame - their own browser isn't standards compliant and can't display AJAX correctly. I, for one, am daily ever more glad to have switched from the PC platform to the Macintosh back in 2006. I'll never go back, except at work, where I don't have a choice.

HawaiiMacAddict
 
RidleyGriff said:
Come on, now. As has been stated upthread, this is likely due to issues IE7 has with AJAX.

Should Apple hinder the progress of their platform because Microsoft refuses to put out a totally standards-compliant browser? Especially when IE share is dropping, and Firefox and Safari are storming up the charts?

Of course not. If Microsoft wants IE to be competitive in the future, they need to put out stable releases with full functionality, that don't skimp on standards in order to promote their own proprietary solutions. This is Microsoft's issue, not Apple's, and I hardy think Apple should cripple MobileMe to pander to IE's weaknesses.

In any case, there are a plethora of Windows browsers that will work just fine with MobileMe. The only company refusing to make things easy on Windows users is Microsoft.
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I'm not disagreeing with you but it's worth noting, Microsoft invented AJAX. They are the ones who added the XMLHTTPRequest object, though by a differnet, MS oriented name. If not for them there would be no ajax in the current form.

In defense of apple, and in response to the stupid points about café's: What remotely intelligent public computer operator has IE as the browser anyway? All the smart ones have Firefox. Even my local library has Firefox.

Furthermore, in other cases where a particular browser doesn't match up with the rest, giants such as google and yahoo also degrade to less capable interfaces. As someone mentioned there is always a software solution... that is not true, there is not always a solution, particularly in web development.

And the ones worrying about windows support... this is a mac oriented offering. It's only becoming slightly less Mac specific because it works with iPhone. Let's not forget who is offering this and who they compete with.
 
HawaiiMacAddict said:
Additionally, why should Apple force their own developers to dummy down MobileMe just to suit IE7 users anyway? Why is it that Micro$haft's own incompetence, with respect to creating a standards-compliant browser, should be something for which Apple must account? Micro$haft has for years forced their own proprietary "standards" on the rest of us, purely through sheer numbers of the lemmings, like myself until 2006, who shell out their hard-earned cash for the craptactular offerings from Redmond.
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While I'm not crazy about the idea of catering to IE7, I realize that if you want to truly be accessible to the majority of internet users you HAVE to be compatible with IE7.

I'm a web designer, and even though I LOATHE Internet Explorer (6 & 7) because of the shoddy rendering and disregard for web standards, I also have to realize that IE still has 70-75% of the market - which means that I code and develop my websites to reflect that reality. I'd love for Firefox or Safari to knock it off its throne... heck, I'd even be ok if Opera did it - but the reality is that if Apple wants MobileMe to be successful on a scale larger than Mac users (i.e. iPhone users), they cannot afford to have it handicapped in IE7.
 
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