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yeah go with the OUTDATED blackberry os..

...or

live in 2009 and get the iphone

You do know that it is coming with their new 5.0? and if you had used 4.7 like I have on the current Bold you would find it anything but outdated. I would just like to remember what phone JUST got MMS and it doesn't even work all the time.

I have really been thinking and it does seem like the iPhone just isn't for me, and really the apps, most of them are productivity or maps and I can get that with GPS on the Blackberry, so it seems that will be the direction I am going.
 
I own Windows based internet community (www.windowsforums.org) and i do a lots of forum interactions from my iphone. I'm 16 just like you, and should say that I couldn't be happier with any phone than the iPhone. It just suits for typing. The landscape keyboard is so easy to type and after a few hours of typing in it, iPhone will recognize the most used words and its so easy to do that with an iPhone.

I'd advice you to go ahead and get an iPhone.
 
I prefer BB's email client over the iPhone.

Emailing on the BlackBerry is like texting on the iphone. :)

To each his own, I guess.
 
You do know that it is coming with their new 5.0? and if you had used 4.7 like I have on the current Bold you would find it anything but outdated.

Their newer OSes are nothing but shiny skins on the same old thing. The underlying problems (too many menus, things in odd places, navigation is slow and awkward) remain.

I have an iPhone and I'm thinking of getting the 9700 cause of BBM.

I'm not going to get in to this whole argument again, but this just makes me squint at my computer screen in disbelief. People talk about BBM like it's some impressive feature.

I have it; I've tried it. It's... an IM client. And not a particularly elegant one. And it only works with a tiny fraction of the population. And it's on a phone that already has push email, SMS, and real IM clients. How people could possibly care about BBM, let alone actually switch to BB for it, is just utterly beyond me.
 
I have found that there really aren't all these issues you speak of. Perhaps you have never used 5.0 it really is a performance jump from that of 4.7. In terms of BBM I think its quite useful, most of my friends have BlackBerries (only 3 have iPhones) that and IMing on a phone is a nice feature to have. I have truly settled on the Bold 9700.
 
For what it's worth, I recently picked up a Bold 9000 to replace/use with my iPhone 3GS. The phones compliment each other well, each with their own strong skill sets.

That being said, I just wanted to add that I think the 9700 was a very poor path for RIM to choose for a Bold update. The 9000 is a much superior phone in all thing, IMO, except for the camera and application memory. Two things that luckily this iPhone 3GS I also have has no shortage of.

You really can't lose either way- both phones are at the top of their respective mountains. They just excel at different things so you have to really discern and figure out which feature set is most important to you.
 
And why is that?

Because Verizon's coverage in my area sucks, and I really really hate their customer service, they are absolutely dreadful (or at least in my experiences). I also can't bear to think of what I would do if DROID (the only phone that I would even consider switching networks for) broke or I just didnt like it, because Verizon's smartphone offerings are well, I will be nice and say poor.
 
I hated the iPhone keyboard at first.

I text well over 2 - 3,500 thousand text a month with it.
The iPhone keyboard has transformed the way I text/touch other phones.

It's hard to explain but I feel weird anytime I have to use another phone because I'm use to the iPhone and all it's amazing features.

With that said get the iPhone, you will be able to text like a pro! (With patience and time). Don't listen to anyone but you. (But I think you'll love the iPhone, I know I do! :) )
 
I switched to the Storm 2 on Verizon, and it's not that bad. Though I might return it for the Droid. If you like BlackBerries, just get one and then get an iPod Touch. You can have the best of both worlds you know. :D
 
besides the browser

how is the music interface compare on both? that is important to me.. however Google Voice app is what is also driving me away form the iphone.


so if someone can give opinions on:
music interface?
availability of 3rd party applications on bb ( i know iphone has a trillion of those)..but i meant the usable ones in real life.. or daily things on bb
 
Get a BlackBerry. I can go on all day as to why the BlackBerry is superior to the iPhone. I wrote up a few comparison articles, take a look.
 
Get a BlackBerry. I can go on all day as to why the BlackBerry is superior to the iPhone. I wrote up a few comparison articles, take a look.

As you can see, the iPhone doesn’t have a single advantage over the BlackBerry.

Wow, what a waste of time clicking those links. How is that a review? You just picked whatever features the bold has over the iPhone and put them in a table. Why don't you put all the features of both phones if your going to go that route? If that really is your only deciding criteria on a phone then there are plenty of WinMo phones that crush your Blackberry.

The features I use most on my phone are the apps on the app store, the web browser, and texting/email. IMO, the blackberry has the edge on the messaging, but is FAR inferior in the web browsing and the app store. That extra .2 MP on the camera really should have swung me to the blackberry but somehow I managed to hold my ground *sarcasm*.

That has to be one of the worst attempts I've ever seen of a complete, impartial review. Go back to your crackberry forums.
 
Wow, what a waste of time clicking those links. How is that a review? You just picked whatever features the bold has over the iPhone and put them in a table. Why don't you put all the features of both phones if your going to go that route?

The features I use most on my phone are the apps on the app store, the web browser, and texting/email. IMO, the blackberry has the edge on the messaging, but is FAR inferior in the web browsing and the app store. That extra .2 MP on the camera really should have swung me to the blackberry but somehow I managed to hold my ground *sarcasm*.

That has to be one of the worst attempts I've ever seen of a complete, impartial review. Go back to your crackberry forums.

Yeah and that's usually what people do when they do reviews and are biased to one of the things they're reviewing.

Same goes for at&t's commercial when the guy is selecting what at&t and Verizon have. Voice and Data at the same time? Check for at&t, Best selection of smartphones? Check for at&t. Although I don't really agree with that last part.

How about "Sells Android Devices?" No because Verizon would have gotten a check for that and at&t wouldn't. How about most 3G coverage? No because Verizon would have won that one too.

BlackBerry has an app store as well, so that would have just been a tie. Apple claims they have like 100k apps in the app store, or something like that. This may be true, but there are MANY MANY applications that have 50 versions of their application, one for each state (like the lottery one)

Then each app has a "lite" version, and there are many apps that have an app for each sport team in the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL when in reality every single one of those applications can be bundled into one.

BlackBerry also has the Google Voice application, I forgot about that I should add that to the list too. Like I said I could go on and on about the iPhone not performing up to par with its fellow devices. No Multi Tasking, it still can't tether at at&t officially can it? You can't copy part of a text message, it's all or nothing.

RIM still owns a higher market share than the iPhone, and always will in the corporate world. The number of corporate features the BlackBerry has is endless. Being able to remotely reset an employees password, being able to remotely wipe their device (without having to pay Apple $99 a year) being able to select EXACTLY what applications can be installed on the employees phone. The iPhone has none of that.
 
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Yeah and that's usually what people do when they do reviews and are biased to one of the things they're reviewing.

so you admit that your review is biased, but you think that's ok because promotional advertising is biased too? That's a laughable argument. First, the point of an ad is to get someone to buy something. The point of a review is usually to help people make informed decisions.

You are also simply wrong on some of the facts. For example, iPhones can be remote wiped by network administrators, no mobile me required.

I'm not going to spend the considerable time it would take to respond to every facet of your poorly reasoned, misinformed, closed-minded post. I'll just say that any review that concludes that the iPhone doesn't have a single advatage over a bb is so ridiculous that I have to wonder why you bothered to write it. AT&T makes biased ads because they have a financial interest in self-promotion. Do you have an interest here, or are you just absurdly uninformed?
 
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so you admit that your review is biased, but you think that's ok because promotional advertising is biased too? That's a laughable argument. First, the point of an ad is to get someone to buy something. The point of a review is usually to help people make informed decisions.

You are also simply wrong on some of the facts. For example, iPhones can be remote wiped by network administrators, no mobile me required.

I'm not going to spend the considerable time it would take to respond to every facet of your poorly reasoned, misinformed, closed-minded post. I'll just say that any review that concludes that the iPhone doesn't have a single advatage over a bb is so ridiculous that I have to wonder why you bothered to write it. AT&T makes biased ads because they have a financial interest in self-promotion. Do you have an interest here, or are you just absurdly uninformed?

Thank you. I couldn't muster up the energy to comment on his post for a 2nd time so I'm glad you did.
 
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so you admit that your review is biased, but you think that's ok because promotional advertising is biased too? That's a laughable argument. First, the point of an ad is to get someone to buy something. The point of a review is usually to help people make informed decisions.

You are also simply wrong on some of the facts. For example, iPhones can be remote wiped by network administrators, no mobile me required.

I'm not going to spend the considerable time it would take to respond to every facet of your poorly reasoned, misinformed, closed-minded post. I'll just say that any review that concludes that the iPhone doesn't have a single advatage over a bb is so ridiculous that I have to wonder why you bothered to write it. AT&T makes biased ads because they have a financial interest in self-promotion. Do you have an interest here, or are you just absurdly uninformed?

I actually wouldn't call it a review. I've never owned an iPhone, nor do I ever plan to. So I can't really "review" something I've never owned.
 
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