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Apple has lost their way - Bumpers

After spending twenty hours talking to Apple Senior Tech people on the phone and being on my 4th yes my 4th iPhone a local friend asked me if I had tried it without the bumper case? I removed the bumper case and now the proximity sensor works, no more putting 80% of the callers on pause, hold, speaker normally and worst of all calling other numbers in my address book that I have not called in six months. Four out of five calls the phone(s) were literally unusable unless on speaker phone laying on the counter undisturbed.

I now have a second Verizon LG phone just so can make calls and finally found out what the culprit is.

Apple needs to fix mobileme calendar I caution anyone to use it people are losing all of their home at me.com info and appointments...sweet.
Losing their mobileme gallerys, Time machine and Time Capsule do not work, we have tried seven yes seven Time capsules and even the Apple dealer said they are junk and to use a wired external.

The phone needs a stubby external antenna the size of a pencil eraser but Jobs is too proud. They have also become so large that the apple spirit is gone, 50% of their phone support people leave within 90 days that should tell you something. MAc user since 1986 bought a hundred of them over the years not going anywhere else but Google Calendar just got my business as well as gmail and who knows down the road. Apple needs to stop trying to outpace everybody and just make their stuff work and be reliable and tell the truth admit fault and give some decent support.
 
Think it's too expensive? Don't buy it. The beauty of the open market at work.

Think the antenna problem is going to ruin the phone for you? Don't buy it. The beauty of the open market at work.

Complain here? Waste of time.
This logic is infallible because no iPhone 4 user who was surprised at the antenna issue after purchase is able to feel that the price is a bit high to fix something that the user is annoyed about, and think should have been tought of at Cupertino.
 
Not true, unless you have another temporary fix.

It is true for most owners. Obviously not all owners, some of whom have a real problem. But there have been many reports of owners who cover the spot in question and still have no signal issues.

It's a huge fallacy to assume that what you experience is what the whole world experiences.

It's a huge fallacy to assume that if the media reports an issue, it's an issue that everyone experiences.

we are not complaining, we are just commenting on how ludicrous the pricing of apple. And it is free to write a thread.

That's the definition of complaining.
 
The bumper is garbage that actually does more harm than good because it scratches the antenna all over. I got a free one and wish I never even bothered. Anyone planning on selling your phone in the future should steer clear away from this.
 
This logic is infallible because no iPhone 4 user who was surprised at the antenna issue after purchase is able to feel that the price is a bit high to fix something that user is annoyed about, and think should have been fixed.

I'm glad you think my logic is "infallable," but perhaps you meant to say "fallable" instead?

Anyway, any owner who had a problem got a free case. Any owner who complains about a problem now gets a free case. The price is irrelevant to anyone annoyed about this issue, for to them it's free.
 
$29 is steep, but in fairness they are actually pretty nice. They are much more then a simple rubber band. It's a hard plastic frame, with soft rubber edges and physical buttons that push through the the phone underneath.
Besides, if you still want a free (black) one, just call Apple and tell them your signal drops.

I'm not trying to take away from the product, but the price still seems too high for what it is. I love the free market but there is a line out there that goes from making a fair profit to gouging.

I'm sticking to my 3GS until next summer's release. Nothing on the new iPhone jumped out at me that said I just had to have it. The antenna thing is a non-issue for me.
 
I'm not trying to take away from the product, but the price still seems too high for what it is. I love the free market but there is a line out there that goes from making a fair profit to gouging.

Where do you draw that line? Give us a price. Base it on material and labor cost, advertising, stocking and markup. Tell us why that price is "fair profit" but $29 is "gouging."
 
Why all the shock at the $29 price? That was its original price. Then it was free, and now it's back to its original price.

Astounding how many business experts hang out here to tell us why Apple doesn't know what it's doing. Grateful for you spending your time here instead of running your business.

This ☝☝☝☝. It's amazing how many people will act like 5 year old brats about Apple putting the bumper back to regular price after several months of giving them for free. That was only for people who got the phone before the debacle started and Apple did right by the customers and gave the bumpers for free. Did these brats expect for Apple to keep giving them for free forever? NO. I'd like to see HP, Sony or Dell giving anything for free.
 
This apple bumper really sucks! I know of 3 iphones in my surroundings being scratched on the outer rim by this bumper case. Apple needs to look into that.
Crap quality and very expensive.
 
Where do you draw that line? Give us a price. Base it on material and labor cost, advertising, stocking and markup. Tell us why that price is "fair profit" but $29 is "gouging."

I don't have the answer and I doubt anyone here does. In my mind $29 is too much for this product. If I were an iPhone 4 owner and was interested in this particular bumper, I see the value in which I would be willing to pay to be between $12-$15.

Another example of value vs. price that I experienced was with my truck. The overhead console holds a spot for a garage door opener, sunglasses, and has a display for direction and outside temp. The small circuit board display went out and when I checked on getting a replacement, I was told I cannot just buy the circuit board, but the entire plastic console at a cost of $300. I told the parts counter to forget it. I wouldn't have paid more than $30 for the whole thing. So I no longer have a functioning display. It's not a big deal to me not having it. But the principle of having to buy the whole console for $300 was over the line to me when all I needed was the circuit board.

It's all a matter of preference, perception and relative based value. $29 for this bumper may seem reasonable to some, and not reasonable to others.
 
Whatever happened to the "Mexican" iPhone revision?...

HA!

I know that sounds funny, but I remember reading about this awhile back. What ever became of this?

I just searched "iPhone 4 Mexico September" and got a few results. Here's an excerpt from one online article back on the 11th of last month:

Is Apple readying an updated iPhone 4 with a new antenna, one without the much-publicized signal attenuation problem of the current model? A recent report by Mexican tech news site Canal MX, first uncovered (well, in English) by MacRumors, suggests a hardware fix for the iPhone 4′s well-known shortcoming could arrive by the end of September.

This comes by way of an executive from Telcel, a wireless carrier in Mexico. Marco Quatorze says that Apple will have a revised version of the iPhone 4 by the end of next month and it’ll take care of that whole antenna problem. The phone should be fundamentally the same, but it’ll be slightly altered to prevent the dropped signal.

Any insight on this?
 
These are indeed a huge rip-off.
However they have saved my iPhone a few times. I've dropped it about 3 times all from a good 4 feet fall and the bumpers are dented/impacted like hell on one corner, not too bad on another one, and the other times it just fell screen flat, in which case the bumper still protected it.

I have a squaretrade warranty because I'm such a clumsy fool.
 
Free Case Program Over?

I just got my iPhone 4 on 5 October. I had to wait until my contract allowed for the $199 purchase price.

I downloaded the free-case app and ordered a case on 6 October. I know the free case program "expired" on 30 September, but I got a confirmation email from Apple confirming my order for $0.00 for the case. It was ordered on 6 October and is scheduled for delivery on 26 October.
 
The price really is insane. Glad I got a free one.

At a 3rd of the price the profit margin would still be huge
 
It's all a matter of preference, perception and relative based value. $29 for this bumper may seem reasonable to some, and not reasonable to others.

That's a fair response, and I appreciate that you took the time to say it.

My objection is the dogmatic nature of some of these comments that imply they know more about the business world than the experts at Apple.

My personal opinion is that $29 is too much to charge, but I believe in the free market and that the free market will correct things such as overcharging. If it's too much to charge, it will not sell well. If it's sells well, by definition it was not too much to charge.

So let's all just temper our language to what you wrote above. It might be too much for you to spend, whereas someone else might find it reasonable. Arguing the price is best left for business school classes.
 
If anyone doesn't like the price, go onto eBay and get yourself a cheap case. I have a $3 one that i use instead of the one I got from Apple. At this point, if you didn't sign up for a free case, you have no room to complain. You knew about the potential issues with the phone. Deal with it.
 
These are indeed a huge rip-off.
However they have saved my iPhone a few times. I've dropped it about 3 times all from a good 4 feet fall and the bumpers are dented/impacted like hell on one corner, not too bad on another one, and the other times it just fell screen flat, in which case the bumper still protected it.

I have a squaretrade warranty because I'm such a clumsy fool.

You really contradicted yourself. How can you call something a rip off that has saved your phone from damage? :p

This logic is infallible because no iPhone 4 user who was surprised at the antenna issue after purchase is able to feel that the price is a bit high to fix something that the user is annoyed about, and think should have been tought of at Cupertino.

Don't you mean "fallible"?:rolleyes:
 
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