Well, you apparently haven't lived though many technological changes
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Well, you apparently haven't lived though many technological changes
One day our grandkids will look up what we used to say on the internet... using their holographic skin phone with many gigabytes of memory... and laugh.
Only if you define "absolute comfort" to mean lying on your back holding up a 1.5 lb object 2' away from your face with one hand.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
iPad already obsolete. Go Apple!
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You need to respect iPad more than iPhone 4.
In addtion, the whole assumption that it's a faster capable CPU can be bogus to begin with.
For instance, someone found a reference for a similar chip build process and optimistically posted that the original iPhone CPU was something like "667Mhz underclocked to 400MHz". In fact, there's no guarantee that the chip was rated that high.
Chips are usually divided up into speed ranges after manufacturing by how fast they actually test at. You'll get lower yield and higher costs if you require each one to work at a higher speed than what you ever intend to use.
It's sometimes not cost effective to take a faster chip and underclock it. Instead, a smart builder will buy the chips that didn't test as fast, for less.
That won't tell us CPU clock. Devs will know within a few hours of getting hands on it.
That's a good one, thanks
yw. I got it back when it was free. I'll sign into the app store and install it right after I activate my phone.
WRONG!
The same thing was said with WAP2 or xHTML on feature phones years ago; many said nobody would use it. Well they did and in large amounts enough for the industry to take notice & feed it. The same was said for the first webkit implementation; a collaboration between Apple & Nokia for their S60 2nd Edition FP3 smartphones back in 1999/2000. Now you can CLEARLY see worldwide mobile web usage stats showing iPhone being the most widely used mobile web-browser on the internet!!
Yeah It WILL replace the internet browsing on the iPad for the following reasons:
- higher resolution means zooming in an panning will be better experience.
- It's more mobile and will have MORE users using it! More pages specifically used for it.
- Faster CPU, more RAM most likely means more tabs can be used.
The ONLY thing the iPad has is the larger screen and thus MORE of the page can be viewed at the same time. Having the smaller screen forces users to be more efficient at what their doing.
PS can users search for text on a view page on the iPhone?! I've totally forgotten.
Actually, both devices are crippled in their own unique ways, apart from Flash. At least either can display that.
Why? The i4 is obviously better.
Depends on what you use it for I suppose. If your interface is too small, like on the iPhone/iPod Touch, then what's the point? Gaming is of a limited experience on such a small screen, as your fingers get in the way of the game itself. Music is great, as well as 'limited' viewing of movies...again, too small for longer periods of time. Web surfing also gets to your eyes on such a small screen after a while. Apple missed the mark when they didn't at least anticipate the larger screen of the HTC phone at 3.5" vs. 4.3". You're talking almost a 20% increase in screen real estate with HTC, with only a .3" difference in overall size. Pretty nice tradeoff.
My desire to sell my iPad was more from annoyance due to the recent smelly business practices from Apple and AT&T rather than from performance. Although I do wish for a 5-6" iPad or iPod Touch for a happy medium of performance, interface, and portability, there is no denying the higher grade of movie, web surfing, or gaming experience on the iPad over the tiny screen of the iPhone.
You DO know that the Cortex A9 [Texas Instruments 4340, 4430, etc] has been around almost 2yrs now. It's an expensive design and its HUGE paradigm shift; as in NVidia Tegra2 which can control a live Turn-by-Turn GPS feed with music, video playback of 720P on 3x 10"LCDs and the Audi MMI system which is now shipping in ALL 2010 Audi models. Not to mention that Audi is now testing in fuel efficiency and traffic light communications. Everyone in the electronics & computing industry (except Apple) is giving NVidia a hard time but its wrongly founded. Tegra2 features 8 multi-cores on the same die with SMP (Semetric Multi-Processing) and is power efficient; BETTER than the A8.
Cortex A9 chipsets are seriously going to ROCK the mobile industry beyond the competition and I'll bet they'll be featured in the 2/3rd gen iPad. Intrinsity was featuring an early prototype design based on the Cortex A9 ~ one of the reason's Apple purchased the company; and the reason why so many rumors about the A4 chip using that ARM design.
PS: the ARM Holding's chip designs and just about ALL mobile smartphone chips are based on RISC instruction set; funny how that is right??!!
No...he's right. Internet browsing on the iPhone is abysmal after a while if compared to the iPad. Scroll left, scroll right, scroll left again, zoom in, pan right...just to view an entire page....yeah, that's desirable. Not to mention, you'll need glasses after a while reading such small print, so you are right, the zooming feature is certainly needed.
"Having a smaller screen forces users to be more efficient"...do you actually read what you type? That's a laughable statement. Then why don't you mount a 13" LCD on your living room wall for entertainment. Maybe you'll suddenly become more 'efficient'....lol.
^ THAT is some innovative thinking and if the chipset can scale due to application demand for clock speed that would be novel. I don't know of a mobile chip built/designed pre-2008 that does that. Recall chipset designs from prototype AUTOCAD design to prototype takes more than 1 year usually.
No...he's right. Internet browsing on the iPhone is abysmal after a while if compared to the iPad. Scroll left, scroll right, scroll left again, zoom in, pan right...just to view an entire page....yeah, that's desirable. Not to mention, you'll need glasses after a while reading such small print, so you are right, the zooming feature is certainly needed.
"Having a smaller screen forces users to be more efficient"...do you actually read what you type? That's a laughable statement. Then why don't you mount a 13" LCD on your living room wall for entertainment. Maybe you'll suddenly become more 'efficient'....lol.
Yes, I DO READ what I type!
So if my logic ~ which is done in practice for years ~ is so incorrect then WHY:
After several years of having 12/13/14" G3 based laptops then going to the G4 did Apple go BACK to the 12" & now 13" laptops which ARE the best sellers EVEN if the current Core i5/i7 chips used in the 15/17" laptops with HIGHER resolutions?! Pontificate that for a moment, and not isolate solely based on price. MANY in threads here and abroad have clearly stated that they prefer the 13"MBP vs the 15/17" MBP regardless of price.
I've been surfing the web & mobile web on feature phones and smartphones for YEARS:
SonyEricssons: T18z, T36m, T68m (an Ericsson), K790a and K800.
Nokia: 6600, 6620, E71x2, E66, and N85.
BlackBerry: 8100, 8700, 8800/8820, 8300/8310/8320, 8900, 9700 currently.
Motorola: I think it was the M9 or something *9 model that was designed to mimic a BB and was a 3G device for AT&T while also being a CDMA device for Verizon (I used Fido's model here in Canada).
I've posted on multiple forums ~ mostly phone forums like HowardForums, Esato, here, etc directly from ANY of those feature/smartphones without issues ~ save for the widespread implementation of Flash use on sites.
IT's amazing how efficient you can become with:
* Tabbed browsing
* Zooming - not EVERYTHING on a home page is what you're after (source reading is the key not reading the entire site which is not what you're after).
* isolating your searches to get what you're after (I actually suck at this on ANY site but I try).
- And I do this with a D-Pad, Trackpad, numerical keys, etc. Imagine the efficiency of using a full multi-touch screen. Unlike many others taking their sweet time to stroke and pet the multi-touch screen to show off just how EASY it is I go to work and get straight to it: try using 2 thumbs during navigation, not just your 1 index finger (its a machine NOT a pet to stroke).
I don't NEED a large screen to enjoy the web and if you're sold on the iPad just cause of the large screen then you've been duped if that is the BEST browsing experience.
You DO know that the Cortex A9 [Texas Instruments 4340, 4430, etc] has been around almost 2yrs now. It's an expensive design and its HUGE paradigm shift; as in NVidia Tegra2 which can control a live Turn-by-Turn GPS feed with music, video playback of 720P on 3x 10"LCDs and the Audi MMI system which is now shipping in ALL 2010 Audi models. Not to mention that Audi is now testing in fuel efficiency and traffic light communications. Everyone in the electronics & computing industry (except Apple) is giving NVidia a hard time but its wrongly founded. Tegra2 features 8 multi-cores on the same die with SMP (Semetric Multi-Processing) and is power efficient; BETTER than the A8.
Cortex A9 chipsets are seriously going to ROCK the mobile industry beyond the competition and I'll bet they'll be featured in the 2/3rd gen iPad. Intrinsity was featuring an early prototype design based on the Cortex A9 ~ one of the reason's Apple purchased the company; and the reason why so many rumors about the A4 chip using that ARM design.
PS: the ARM Holding's chip designs and just about ALL mobile smartphone chips are based on RISC instruction set; funny how that is right??!!
Yeah, but those are all reference designs/development boards. Tegra2 is supposed to hit in things like Boxee and the Notion Ink Adam tablet, both of which have been delayed, with rumors of the Tegra 2 being at least part of the issue. That's why I'm saying we won't see any smartphone designs until next year, not that designs or proofs of concept don't exist yet. People like TI had info on the architecture even before ARM officially announced it last year.
What I find interesting is that for smartphones, apple has always been at the front of the curve. (they launched 3GS just as the palm pre was launched, which was the first A8 in a major smartphone). They are again ahead of the curve with the A4 to combat the forthcoming Hummingbird & Scorpion SoCs. Do they up the ante again next year to stay current after the A4 has only lived a year at the forefront?
I can be efficient with a small tent, matches, fishing pole, and a small buck knife. However, I wouldn't trade the luxuries of running water, indoor plumbing, and electricity. Surely you are smelling what you are shoveling.
The smaller laptops turn more frequently on PRICE and PORTABILITY alone. If one could 'fold up' a 17" LCD to the size of a 12" for portability and at the same cost, you bet your bottom dollar people would do it. If you think they sell because everyone 'prefers' a smaller screen, where eye strain is at a maximum, desktop space is limited, raw power is reduced, and resolution diminished, you are truly smoking something.
I don't care how your little fingers have typed so well on a matchbook sized screen, at the end of the day, portability and price aside, the better experience will always be on a larger interface. If that were not the case, then your desktops would not continue to get larger screens such as the iMac, and we'd all still be working on 13" CRT's. Pontificate that for a while.
I am in the camp of those now expecting a revised iPad sooner rather than later. Does this change much for the owners though? Not a jot! Compared to iPhones, they are very different beasts, as anyone who has tried even a few minutes with either will see. Perhaps we will see an improved iPad in the Autumn. What of it? People getting literally hours of enjoyment with their current ones can either sell up, losing a 'rental fee' in the process, or find another use for their still very functional and not extortionately priced wonder.
In fact what I always saw as a good thing about the iPad model is that you don't need to pay as much as for a laptop, making more frequent upgrades possible, as technology allows it. The 2 year plans for iPhones make this harder, but then again if major updates are 2 years apart, this isn't so bad.
In fact what I always saw as a good thing about the iPad model is that you don't need to pay as much as for a laptop, making more frequent upgrades possible, as technology allows it. The 2 year plans for iPhones make this harder, but then again if major updates are 2 years apart, this isn't so bad.
Aside for the imovie app.....
So let me get this straight. ALL apps I see being updated in the app store are for iOS4 features. The ipad was announced and released within a few months of the offical iOS4 keynote (even though there has been rumors and previous mention of iOS4 in other keynotes). Plus they said iOS4 would be available for the ipad in the fall and we early adopters could get the next major upgrade for free.
Now you're telling me my ipad will not be able to take advantage of the features?? And what about the apps that are being updated for iOS4? will they no longer run? Most of these apps I paid for... All I gotta say is my ipad better be able to handle it, my apps better not break or Apple better give me an $800 credit (price of my original ipad, applecare, and state sales tax) toward a new one.
I specifically bought an ipad for it's features, apps, and the iOS4 features when they were released. Especially folders and the chance at multitasking.
I lol'd. Can anyone get more stupid than this?! Wow.
Aside for the imovie app.....
So let me get this straight. ALL apps I see being updated in the app store are for iOS4 features. The ipad was announced and released within a few months of the offical iOS4 keynote (even though there has been rumors and previous mention of iOS4 in other keynotes). Plus they said iOS4 would be available for the ipad in the fall and we early adopters could get the next major upgrade for free.
Now you're telling me my ipad will not be able to take advantage of the features?? And what about the apps that are being updated for iOS4? will they no longer run? Most of these apps I paid for... All I gotta say is my ipad better be able to handle it, my apps better not break or Apple better give me an $800 credit (price of my original ipad, applecare, and state sales tax) toward a new one.
I specifically bought an ipad for it's features, apps, and the iOS4 features when they were released. Especially folders and the chance at multitasking.
Who buys a product for what they expect it will do, instead of what it does?
I remember a bunch of folk defending the original iPhone on that exact premise. Things that it couldn't do were mostly just software issues. Turns out (for the most part) those people were right.