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Left handed people suck anyhow..

I have this problem & have reported it to Apple.

I am right-handed however, but I hold the phone in my left hand whilst typing with my right...:(

I am in the UK on O2.
 
Because some guy lost their test device in a bar.

Yeah, that guy was an idiot and was very irresponsible. Just from seeing pics of him that popped-up after the incident, I can tell you I never would have trusted him with the prototype. And besides, I'm sure they had many many more people testing this device in the wild. They should have been able to pick up on this.
 
This thread is just annoying cause no one is really trying to narrow anything down to determine if there is a real difference between those who have the problem and those that don't.

I asked a friend who got his iPhone 4 today to try and replicate the problems in this thread. He was unable to accomplish a signal drop...but I'm sure that'll just be blamed on good signal or less conductive skin instead of seeking details that might show it was from a different batch or something from the ones that seem to so easily replicate the problem.

I swear people don't know how to properly troubleshoot and it drives me nuts in situations like this.

I've yet to see that anyone has even tried a clean restore because everyone is so convinced that CAN'T be it without ever even testing it.

Do I think a restore will fix it? Nope...but do I know for sure? Nope...so test it instead of making assumptions people.
 
I can confirm this as well. So weird. I have 5 full bars and 3G service. Then, hold it in my left hand and within 20 seconds, I'm down to no bars and Edge. Wow, shocking!

EDIT: With the bumper on, this doesn't happen for me. Glad I got one.
 
I also noticed last night that when I held it in my left hand that I could reproduce loss of 4 bars of signal. I would only lose 1 or 2 bars when I held in my right hand and tried to touch as much of the metal edge as possible.

This morning I actually got signal for the first time on a cell phone in my office which is deep inside a metal building with the phone held gently in my right hand so I wouldn't touch the bottom of the metal edge.

So Apple's claims of better reception are true if you don't hold the phone in your hand.
 
Anyone in Miami???

I saw someone in Fort Laurderdale couldn't replicate it. Anyone in Miami care to chime in?
 
I'm a lefty, but when I get my iPhone 4 I am going to hold it in my right hand so it feels like someone else is doing it.
 
Left handed people suck anyhow..

Hey dummy, and you other dummies.

Right handed people hold their phone in their left hand, so that they can hit the buttons with their right.

Any of you nerds ever play baseball? If you're right handed, the mitt goes on your left hand.

NERDS!
 
All three of mine are ok, no problems whatsoever, no signal issue, no yellowing. Apple store only has black bumpers btw. Facetime rocks.
 
I've said it before but the problem (maybe obvious) is far less prominent in a strong signal area.
 
Hmm if I just hold the gap I lose nothing, sometimes a bar. If I really wrap my hand around it I lose 3 bars, but my 3GS will lose signal too if I do that.
 
My dad works for motorola and i can tell you that hardware devices like this undergo rigerous testing. They have to asits mandated by FCC. My dad was saying that there is 0 chance these weren't tested naked. Not only that but they test in many many different "fields" to measure the impact of interference to fine grain the design.

I know people are upset but its ridic to assume they did not test it properly.
Like I said in another thread, I fear it may be a massive failure with FoxConn's assembly process during mass production. Or another hardware provider.
 
This thread is just annoying cause no one is really trying to narrow anything down to determine if there is a real difference between those who have the problem and those that don't.

I asked a friend who got his iPhone 4 today to try and replicate the problems in this thread. He was unable to accomplish a signal drop...but I'm sure that'll just be blamed on good signal or less conductive skin instead of seeking details that might show it was from a different batch or something from the ones that seem to so easily replicate the problem.

I swear people don't know how to properly troubleshoot and it drives me nuts in situations like this.

I've yet to see that anyone has even tried a clean restore because everyone is so convinced that CAN'T be it without ever even testing it.

Do I think a restore will fix it? Nope...but do I know for sure? Nope...so test it instead of making assumptions people.

So says the person who doesn't have the said problem because he doesn't even have an iPhone 4. Thanks, but sorry, game over, play again.
 
I've said it before but the problem (maybe obvious) is far less prominent in a strong signal area.

So, this is AT&T's problem? Sure, I can hop aboard that ship.

But, seriously, the antenna was supposed to improve the signal in signal-poor areas, not diminsh it even more.
 
Galvanic skin response and bridging of antenae

If your hands are sweaty, you are more likely to bridge the antenae... If you bridge them you will change impedance. The real question is how long do the bars stay down? Most modern signal processors will compensate.
 
So says the person who doesn't have the said problem because he doesn't even have an iPhone 4. Thanks, but sorry, game over, play again.

...and when I get mine, I'll properly troubleshoot the damn thing before thinking I know 100% that I know exactly what the problem is.

How my having or not having the phone changes the lack of eliminating all possibilities in this thread is beyond me.
 
QFT. except for the bold.
The bold? When I wrote "...when their systems crash like mad" I was referring to the analogy with the early adopters, not Apple's products.

A simpler example of the risks involved with ignoring the laws of physics in favor of being "different" is Lady Gaga who decided to wear these platforms...

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...only to fall flat on her nose...

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It reminds me of her performance on SNL where she was wearing some kind of gyro-outfit with planet rings spinning around her. They kept hitting her in the face. The obvious solution to the problem would be to wear normal clothes, but I'm sure she solved it by putting rubber bumpers on the rings... :D
 
I've yet to see that anyone has even tried a clean restore because everyone is so convinced that CAN'T be it without ever even testing it.

Do I think a restore will fix it? Nope...but do I know for sure? Nope...so test it instead of making assumptions people.

A fresh restore was the first thing I tired.

As did I try turning off all other radios.

When I'm outside, it seems to hold the call, but still drops down to one bar. It would seem the signal strength is a relevant variable.
 
My Sanyo phone also loses signal

Out of curiosity, I wondered how much people's hands always affect cell phone signal. After all, your hand is going to block the signal to some degree, right?

So, I tried it with my Sanyo S1 phone on Sprint.
That phone, which never drops calls, also loses a bar or two of signal if you wrap your hand around it. Probably I never noticed because when it's in my hand it's next to my ear. (Since it's not dropping calls, I'm also not stopping to look and curse at the bars after a call drops.)

My iPhone 3G, which often drops calls, does not seem to be as affected by "hand-blockage", but the signal bars bounce around so much it's hard to tell.

I've suspected that my iPhone 3G drops are related to the phone deciding to switch towers when there are two or three towers in range with mediocre signal. Maybe the phone tries to jump to a tower that's already full or ends up jumping to one with worse signal.
 
So, this is AT&T's problem? Sure, I can hop aboard that ship.

But, seriously, the attenna was supposed to improve the signal in signal-poor areas, not diminsh it even more.

Not what I meant, just meaning that if you have a strong signal, the antennae aren't affected as badly.
 
...and when I get mine, I'll properly troubleshoot the damn thing before thinking I know 100% that I know exactly what the problem is.

How my having or not having the phone changes the lack of eliminating all possibilities in this thread is beyond me.

Because it very easy to play armchair quarterback instead of actually doing something. With thousands of people having this problem, I'm pretty sure many different solutions have been tried, but nothing has been reported yet.
 
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