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Maybe the workers who put the phones together were distracted by the employees falling past the window and that caused them to mess up the antenna
 
Do people actually hold their phones like this? Yes, you can cause an issue by wrapping your hand around the phone. But I don't hold the phone like that. I have my thumb touching the left side, and the other fingers on the right. Seems extremely uncomfortable to wrap your hand around like that.
 
Considering I've seen a ton of videos already this morning that are dropping calls because of this issue, I'd say you are wrong.

This is an issue. It does affect calls and data speeds, there's evidence of that in this thread and the other thread in the news forum.

That's what I meant. There were people saying - not this is just the software, you lose bars but don't loose reception or drop calls. I've been saying this looks like a hardware problem or a faulty batch since yesterday.
 
I think this may be either good news or bad news but...

Just got into my office and my colleague was playing with his new iPhone 4. I asked him if he had any screen issues. He wasnt aware of the problems so we looked. His screen was fine. I then asked him to see if the phone had reception issues as i had tested my phone yesterday and experienced no issues.

Sure enough, when he held the phone in his left hand, he went from 5 bars to 1. I then tried his phone as well and same thing happened to me!!!

But when we both tried it on my phone, could not replicate it no matter how hard we tried.

This makes me think this may be a massive hardware QA problem.

Ill do some more tests with him and report back. But the good news is that if its a hardware problem related to QA, then at least its not a design issue.

This particular post would lead in the direction that it's not a design flaw but possibly a build flaw in a percentage (large or small) of the iPhone 4.
 
So, either Apple released this product knowing fully of this problem or there has been some kind of problem in the manufacturing of the phone. I just don't know how you can explain the latter situation. I know there may be a lemon here and there, but this is a widespread problem. Foxconn had the blueprints for this darn thing, how could they have managed to make so many, so differently that the ones tested? Unless there was a Apple-dictated change in the way they manufactured it mid-way through production.

I mean hardware recalls happen all the time because of manufacturing errors. Remember the huge HP printer recalls like 5 years ago? This is just very high profile and people dont want to believe it could happen to apple. Some other user reported that two phones, side by side, both iphone 4's, one had it and one didnt. Its much more likely to be hardware manufacturing than design in my opinion. But either way, im not trying to argue. Point is there is a problem and now we wait to hear about fix.
 
So couldnt this just be a Ios4 issue. People are saying they can do this on their 3gs and 3g too but other say they cant. Probably the ones that cant are still on 3.x
 
So, by applying decades of computer troubleshooting process' to possibly eliminate a possibility, I'm armchair quarterbacking?

Sorry, maybe I should never try to help anyone if I'm not experiencing the same problem.

Anyway, someone tried it, that's all I was asking. You spent more trouble being an ass in the thread then someone did to say "yup, I tried that" and effectively eliminate that possibility.

Peace out.

"Applying decades of computer troubleshooting process". Oh, your're one of those people.

Anyways, first you insult the people in this thread ("I swear people don't know how to properly troubleshoot ") then you and your "decades of computer troubleshooting" only come up with only one single possible solution (trying to restore - whoch people have tried to do already). Really? Are you for real? Seem like a troll to me.
 
can someone try to cover the rim with tape

Can some one try to cover the metal rim all the way around with a pice of tape and see if it still happens.


and can you make it happen if you only touch either top or bottom antenea, with / with out tape


this will tell us

1) has it to do with short circuit
2) has it to do with covering one / both anteneas (with no direckt contackt)
 
Someone needs an atlas...

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:D

Lol or to update their profile.
 
no dropped calls but...

I haven't dropped a call... yet, but when I put my thumb over the black line at the bottom left the signal does goes down like in the video. :eek:

Of course I don't hold my cell phone in the palm of my hand while I am talking, so this really isn't an issue for me, but this does suck! :mad:
 
So couldnt this just be a Ios4 issue. People are saying they can do this on their 3gs and 3g too but other say they cant. Probably the ones that cant are still on 3.x

Those who own a 3GS and say they cant make their signals drop, are doing it wrong, or lying.

Every single iDevices signal can be dropped by touching the antenna with flesh, and in this case, bridging the two of the iPhone 4s antennas.

The only possible fix is to cover the antenna with some type of rubber / tape / Bumper case, or wait for Apple to use a special coding on top of the antennas to fix the bridging issue.


So your best bet is to wait until Apple fixes the antenna material, if you own an iPhone 4, cover the antennas with tape or buy a bumper / case.
 
I just got my iPhone 4 32GB and i can not replicate this at all nor are there any yellow dots i got myself a perfect phone ^^:D

No you got a lemon like the rest of us. If you take your phone to an AT&T region where the signal strength isn't strong, this problem will be noticeable.

Where I live, the signal is good. Not great, but good. Holding the left side kills every single call I make. If I visit my sister I can get it to go down maybe a bar or two, but she lives in an area where AT&T's signal strength is excellent. This isn't a bad batch of phones. It's a design issue.
 
Thanks TonyC28. I have coffee all over my desktop now.

If it is a manufacturing issue, they better install rubber bumpers the whole way around the Foxconn building.
 
Interestingly, this left corner method works when I am at home and will drop my signal and calls. On my 3GS, I've always had about 2-3 bars at home, so the signal was always spotty.

At work, this doesn't affect my iPhone 4 AT ALL. I work in a corporate park where there are cell towers all over the place. Even when I place my whole hand on the bottom left, I get full signal and no dropped call after about 3-4 minutes of testing.

I guess it could be dependent on the quality of the signal you're getting from the closest tower?
 
Hmmm.... I just tried the nickel test, and I still get full bars after a minute (I'm in Washington DC)

Edit:
I guess it could be dependent on the quality of the signal you're getting from the closest tower?

Interesting. I guess this could be the case.
 
I have bought a iPhone 4 32GB on Orange in the UK today!
using it all day I haven't encountered this problem at all!
 
This just occured to me.

Can someone test to see if signals drop when the iPhone 4 is plugged into a computer?

I have a feeling this will also be another issue. Same thing with charging
 
"Applying decades of computer troubleshooting process". Oh, your're one of those people.

Anyways, first you insult the people in this thread ("I swear people don't know how to properly troubleshoot ") then you and your "decades of computer troubleshooting" only come up with only one single possible solution (trying to restore - whoch people have tried to do already). Really? Are you for real? Seem like a troll to me.

You ASSUMED people had tried it and still had the problem. For all you know the people saying "I'm not having the issue" were the ones who had done a restore and not thought for a second that this could have had something to do with it.

So, you're defending assumptions...and I've been saying you need to make it a fact. But you think my logic is flawed.

I brought up restores because it's something I had not seen anyone mention. I also pointed out that people aren't trying to narrow down the difference between the ones that say they do work and don't work.

Where are all the post saying "I'm on 800MHz ATT and I have the problem" or "here is my S/N and I have the problem". You see the occasional post where someone says "hey, lets see if this is why" and no one follows up with any real information.

People just go "I have the problem" and "I don't have the problem" and that gets no one anywhere on figuring out why some have no problem even when tested in the same location with 2 iPhone 4's where the same one that loses signal loses it with both people's hands yet the one that doesn't lose signal keeps signal in both people's hands.

Sounds to me like the "it's because you had a strong signal" and the "your hands aren't as conductive" claims are just more assumptions that still needed to be proven.

You go ahead and live your life basing everything on assumptions and see where that gets you.
 
It's not just about calling - I hold my phone in the right hand when browsing the net, and my finger covers the black seam... Obviously it means I cannot browse the internet comfortably...
 
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