iPhone 4 hd video recording demo "very poor quality!"

[thomamon]

No, it's not very nice. It's jittery as hell. So basically what I'm getting from the videos Apple posted and now this one, it's great in perfect lighting as long as the person holding the camera never moves.

Actually, its not nearly as jittery as my Flip HD...

 

[BobHail]

Saw the video, looks ok (for a phone). Pretty much same quality as 3GS although resolution is of course a bit bigger, which is nice.

 

[highres]

Everybody is getting hung up on "streaming" video and not realizing that as soon as something is posted for playback via streaming it is usually compressed and probably re-sized. To see uncompressed footage somebody need only post the raw .mov file to the web as a downloadable link (like chakraj did previously) to be downloaded and then viewed if they are so worried about bandwidth with 720p uncompressed video footage.

 

[Nikos]

True native footage here. It's on the front page of MR, but here is the YouTube version with file size details and all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDXIll1Rt34

 

[jonutarr]

Thats the video apple has on their site as an HD video recorded from their new iPhone 4 in 720p.

apple
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/hd-video-recording.html

it looks the same on my computer screen. I hope that you are right, fingers crossed. Can anyone find a better example??

Looks pretty bad, I was going to get one for the 720p camera, not worth selling my 3GS and Sony T500 for, to be fair Sony has a lot more years over Apple when it comes to cameras, I think I will wait till they do better, maybe iPhone 5

 

[jonutarr]

True native footage here. It's on the front page of MR, but here is the YouTube version with file size details and all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDXIll1Rt34

That looks better, I wonder how good it will be filming movement and low light?

 

[gloss]

You can keep arguing that all you want, but it is in fact edited. Any alteration to the source material is considered to be an edited version. Thus says our judicial system.

Since you're declaring this in direct contradiction of the actual definition of the word, a little proof would be nice.

No, it's not very nice. It's jittery as hell. So basically what I'm getting from the videos Apple posted and now this one, it's great in perfect lighting as long as the person holding the camera never moves.

So...you'd like them to offer it with a Steadicam?

 

[iphonetester]

+1. Videos uploded to YouTube are usually transcoded and often downsampled. To judge the quality we would have to see the original .mov containing the unedited 1280x720 H.264 stream.

Yes, cannot compare - with EVO video you can switch out to 720p, while with the posted iPhone4 you cannot

 

[0309385]

Yes, cannot compare - with EVO video you can switch out to 720p, while with the posted iPhone4 you cannot

Why does this matter exactly?

The Evo's quality sucks noodles here is a comparison of the two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwutoAeGlI&feature=player_embedded

 

[gsimonds]

Everybody is getting hung up on "streaming" video and not realizing that as soon as something is posted for playback via streaming it is usually compressed and probably re-sized. To see uncompressed footage somebody need only post the raw .mov file to the web as a downloadable link (like chakraj did previously) to be downloaded and then viewed if they are so worried about bandwidth with 720p uncompressed video footage.

+1. I found the original .mov file on a file depot, 12.5MB for 9 seconds of video. It nearly filled my wide screen and it was beautiful! By those numbers, 1 hour of footage with max resolution will use 5GB. Glad I got the 32GB!

 

[highres]

+1. I found the original .mov file on a file depot, 12.5MB for 9 seconds of video. It nearly filled my wide screen and it was beautiful! By those numbers, 1 hour of footage with max resolution will use 5GB. Glad I got the 32GB!

Glad I got the 32GB too! The types of file sizes you listed above are exactly why. Thanks for injecting some sense into this discussion those are the types of iPhone 4 numbers I've been searching the web to find.

 

[jclardy]

that coppieness you see from the Evo is from the person panning so fast. That will happen on the Iphone 4 also. This happens on all HD camcorders right now and it's annoying as hell. Also ppl need to stop comparing the EVO video to the Iphone's video because we are watching two different things with different lighting.

No the choppiness is because the EVO doesn't have a consistent frame rate. The actual problem with digital video right now is that when you pan quickly things start to lean left or right because the sensor doesn't pick up the data in a single shot, it scrolls downward, so when panning quickly the top of the frame will be further along than the rest of the frame.

I have two HD cameras, a Sanyo Xacti which does the lean but no the choppiness, and a Rebel T2i which drastically improves the lean when panning.

But until there is a real side by side we won't be able to compare anything.

 

[Sinfire]

Could it be the Fog that is typical in San Francisco that is making the video look a little fuzzy ?

I just watched apple hd video of the water and the SF bridge or whatever bridge that was and the quality was terrible. It was fuzzy and didnt look 720p or hd, if I played that on my TV it would look so bad, I couldnt even watch it on my computer screen. Then I checked out a hd video recorded by a evo4g and it looked great compaired to the iphone 4 video.

The only reason I stuck with the iPhone this year was because the video recording quality was supposed to be sooo good, and I have a two year old daughter I want to record all I can. Does anyone have a good example of or a link to an example of iphone 4 hd video??

After the terrible 12hr pre order experience if the video looks that bad I will be selling my iPhone and getting the 2gig Moto droid when it comes out.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Gigzz]

Why does this matter exactly?

The Evo's quality sucks noodles here is a comparison of the two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwutoAeGlI&feature=player_embedded

That's a comparison of what might be an EVO and then something that's not an iPhone 4. If someone posted a bad video and claimed it was taken from an unreleased iPhone, the fanboys would incite riots demanding there be proof that the footage came from an iPhone. Odd how that's not the caee here.