WOW! Dude , you are on to something! Try this with your 3GS, it does the exact same thing, at least mine does, very interesting.........
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iPhone 4 Reception Issue? [Video]
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WOW! Dude , you are on to something! Try this with your 3GS, it does the exact same thing, at least mine does, very interesting.........
Yeah, sorry pal, but I have been doing exactly that for over an hour now, and have only been able to get the signal to drop twice: once to three bars, and once to four. It's waaay premature to be jumping to ridiculous conclusions like you are, because at this point it is apparent that some people are having problems, and some people are not.
If the SOFTWARE thinks the connection is lost.... the call will drop. The connection could be fine... but the software will DROP the call if it thinks it lost it.
Not saying I know this for sure... because only way to know is to look at the source code of the iOS 4. But it is logical to assume the software will drop the call if thinks there is no signal regardless of the ACTUAL signal strength.
All I am saying is that the SOFTWARE does not reflect the true SIGNAL strength. THUS... all the call drops and such would be a result of the software dropping the call... not the signal.
It is also logical that the SOFTWARE would not let the user make a call if the SOFTWARE detects no SIGNAL.
Perhaps its a killswitch of sorts to prevent people from repeatedly making call attempts when the signal would not allow intelligible voice data to transmit even though the call will technically connect.
For example, the phone detects a signal that while useable, is not practical for a call so the software prevents it from needlessly using bandwidth and instead "searches" for a better signal.
Haha no WONDER Apple made the bumper case.
"Apple iPhone 4 bumper case. You mean you actually wanted to use your iPhone 4, not just look at it? Then this is the case for you, weirdo."
But seriously, didn't Apple realize that if you made the outside the antenna, you'd make the body of the person holding it the antenna, too? So ironic, but sort of the epitome of Apple product design.
EDIT: Now this guy has it, and it makes perfect sense. Connecting the wifi and GSM antennas together with your hand is what messes up the signal, since they're all getting mixed up and both going to each chip. Now Apple just needs to teach you how to hold your iPhone 4.
"Apple iPhone 4 bumper case. You mean you actually wanted to use your iPhone 4, not just look at it? Then this is the case for you, weirdo."
But seriously, didn't Apple realize that if you made the outside the antenna, you'd make the body of the person holding it the antenna, too? So ironic, but sort of the epitome of Apple product design.
EDIT: Now this guy has it, and it makes perfect sense. Connecting the wifi and GSM antennas together with your hand is what messes up the signal, since they're all getting mixed up and both going to each chip. Now Apple just needs to teach you how to hold your iPhone 4.
Mr. Batteries, what you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I was actually thinking of a conspiracy too. Mainly because many of the people that posted in this thread were registered in june 2010, and they only had few posts.
Are you suggesting (edit: spelling error) they intentionally went with form over function?
This phone's prototype has been around for at least 12-18 months. If this issue isn't something that popped up very recently, I'd be shocked.
I do and I'm not worried one bit!
I seriously doubt anything could prove seriously damaging to Apple stock right now unless it started drilling for oil in the gulf early next week!
Calls would not break up if real signal strength were constant. They would simply terminate abruptly as the software incorrectly stopped the call.
Your posts have made me curious: since most of the tests done were on the AT&T network in the US, I decided to give my iPhone 3G a go: I know this might not help much if it's a hardware problem with the new iPhone 4, but I have tested my iPhone 3G on two UK networks and with two different firmware versions:
Running iOS 3.1.2, on O2-UK network:
Holding it (in any way) does not change the signal strength. Full signal.
Running iOS 3.1.2, on Vodafone UK network:
Holding it (in any way) does not change the signal strength. Full signal.
Running iOS 4.0, on O2-UK network:
Holding it (in any way) does not change the signal strength. Full signal.
Running iOS 4.0, on Vodafone UK network:
Holding it (in any way) does not change the signal strength. Full signal.
I'm guessing it's either a hardware problem or AT&T...
I have an iPhone 4 reserved for today.. not sure if I should pick it up or wait....
Update: I have now used iOS 4.0 on O2-UK for a longer period of time and I was able to reproduce it, but only very slightly. I have to hold the iPhone 3G for about 30 secs for it to drop 1 bar (from 5 to 4 bars), it then goes back to 5 when I put it on the table or keep my palm flat. 1 bar isn't as bad, but I guess this shows that the massive issues on iPhone 4 could be either a mix of iOS 4.0 software issue and AT&T network (making the problem extra bad) OR a mix of iOS 4.0 software issue and iPhone 4 hardware issue (making the problem extra bad).
your right, I loved the crack screen shots, I guess that's what happens when you drag a nail accross the thing!
I'm sure we'll get some bumper posts tomorrow. Mine comes tomorrow - I'll share. For the meantime, I need to learn how to hold the phone w/ my right hand.
A pain yes, but you want cutting/bleeding edge hardware and tech you have to accept the growing pains that come with it.
Apple will do something about it.
A pain yes, but you want cutting/bleeding edge hardware and tech you have to accept the growing pains that come with it.
Apple will do something about it.
If its a hardware problem, then its a hardware problem, and will probably take a while to redesign the phone's antenna. I hope its a simple software fix though. I can confirm that my iPhone DOES NOT have this problem, and neither does my brothers. So i don't think its AT&T. Either way, tomorrow is the big day, and who ever fault it is, they better have a fix, or hell will burn over. I do see videos of iPhone 3G and 3GS with a similar issue, but I have not seen then drop the connection and say Searching, however I have seen it on the iPhone 4. It looks as the iPhone 4 is more sensitive, and has a weaker radio when your hand comes on contact with it.
Yea this pretty much nails it. I can go from full bars to zero by covering the 2 indents on the sides.
Read my post above on this page.
SOFTWARE is just as (if not more likely) to drop the call.
SOFTWARE is king.... if the software is confused.... the phone call will drop.
Seriously... whats more likely...
1) a last minute bug in iOS 4 that causes the software to mis-interrupt the signal strength
2) apple engineers over look a obvious flaw in the design
3GS has same issue
Not true for me. With my case off a 4.0 3Gs, I go from 5 bars to none. No loss of service. With case on it stayed at 5 bars.
Not true for me. With my case off a 4.0 3Gs, I go from 5 bars to none. No loss of service. With case on it stayed at 5 bars.
Great, you have an unaffected unit. I received my phone this morning and wondered all freaking day why places that my old iPhone worked great and wonderful at had problematic service. I even spewed the wonder of the iPhone 4 to my boss only to have it blow up on me when trying to access the Internet ala Jobs.
It was only later when I actually had time to mess with it a bit that I noticed the way too obvious, and repeatable problem.