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iPhone 4 Reception Issue? [Video]
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Dude... this is testing 101. Have you never been exposed to the real world?
Software development: developers hammer the crap out of their code until they are confident it is bug free. They hand to customers... within 2 hours one of those customers has found a bug so obvious an idiot should have been able to see it.
Hardware development: same story
The morale of this story is that the minute software or hardware are placed into the hands of the users.... bugs that should have been obvious to professional testers become IMMEDIATELY obvious to the customers. It's just a fact of life.... it doesn't mean that Apple sucks or that the programmers or hardware designers suck..... it's just the way it happens.
You know, the sentence in my post doesn't start after the comma. If you started reading before the comma, this reply wouldn't have been necessary.
I was posting happily until I saw the thread. Then I tested and it happened to me. I then tested some more and it dropped calls for me.
I didn't just migrate here because I was angry..... I'm a frequent visitor.
This could be a bad batch of handsets. Do these phones have a serial and or lot numbers? Whomever is having these issues should start listing the serial or lot numbers as well as locations. This was done when the xbox 360 had the RROD epidemic. With a lot of user input, we knew which batches or lots to stay away from.
I'm on reserve for tomorrow, but you better believe once it's activated I'll be doing the reception test before I walk out of the apple store.
Got 2 iPhone 4's. Both have this issue. One also has no sound out of the earpiece (have to use speakerphone or bluetooth to use the phone).
Suck.
Suck.
I agree, but how do you test this reception issue in the store? I was a happy camper until my first call. But that requires activation.
This is my problem with this stuff... people suck at critical thinking and troubleshooting problems.
I finally break down and watch the video and the first thing the guy does is move the phone.
HELLO... EARTH TO VIDEO MAKERS... IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE LOCATION OF THE PHONE TO TEST THIS, EVEN SLIGHTLY IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
Picking up the phone with your hand and moving it six inches away from the table could cause any number of factors to impact the reception of the phone.
It is not a legitimate test.
Someone can feel free to PM me someone who actually tested this accurately and correctly and in multiple settings to demonstrate a problem.
This means you have to have the phone sitting in the same location and then put your hands on it, in the SAME location. This means you have to try it in multiple different locations, preferably with multiple different starting bar strengths.
It is possible someone actually properly tested it, but as is normally the case with the stuff, someone does one thing that is nonsense and other people jump on the bandwagon, touch their phone, go OMG OMG OMG and agree or make their own waste of time videos.
Apple apparently did not account for my house when they made their phones either, because I get different reception in different parts of it.
Phone reception is impacted by so many things that all kinds of other factors would need to be worked in. The bottom line is the original video is nowhere close to proof or even an attempt at a reasonable test to troubleshoot or identify the problem.
It is a guy who has his phone laying on his desk and then picking it up and having the signal bar change. I can make a video of any phone in the world that does that.
By the way I just tested this with my 3G phone and I actually have a holder that holds the phone in place so I can actually test this on my 3G phone without the phone moving, and the bars drop when I wrap my hands around it while the phone is still in the same exact location.
This is not a problem that is new the iPhone 4. I can duplicate under more correct circumstances on a 3G version of the phone.
I get 5 bars, then it drops down to 4 and then down to 3. All while still in the exact same place, on a iPhone 3G, and unlike most of these tests never moving from the same place.
This is ridiculous.
I finally break down and watch the video and the first thing the guy does is move the phone.
HELLO... EARTH TO VIDEO MAKERS... IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE LOCATION OF THE PHONE TO TEST THIS, EVEN SLIGHTLY IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
Picking up the phone with your hand and moving it six inches away from the table could cause any number of factors to impact the reception of the phone.
It is not a legitimate test.
Someone can feel free to PM me someone who actually tested this accurately and correctly and in multiple settings to demonstrate a problem.
This means you have to have the phone sitting in the same location and then put your hands on it, in the SAME location. This means you have to try it in multiple different locations, preferably with multiple different starting bar strengths.
It is possible someone actually properly tested it, but as is normally the case with the stuff, someone does one thing that is nonsense and other people jump on the bandwagon, touch their phone, go OMG OMG OMG and agree or make their own waste of time videos.
Apple apparently did not account for my house when they made their phones either, because I get different reception in different parts of it.
Phone reception is impacted by so many things that all kinds of other factors would need to be worked in. The bottom line is the original video is nowhere close to proof or even an attempt at a reasonable test to troubleshoot or identify the problem.
It is a guy who has his phone laying on his desk and then picking it up and having the signal bar change. I can make a video of any phone in the world that does that.
By the way I just tested this with my 3G phone and I actually have a holder that holds the phone in place so I can actually test this on my 3G phone without the phone moving, and the bars drop when I wrap my hands around it while the phone is still in the same exact location.
This is not a problem that is new the iPhone 4. I can duplicate under more correct circumstances on a 3G version of the phone.
I get 5 bars, then it drops down to 4 and then down to 3. All while still in the exact same place, on a iPhone 3G, and unlike most of these tests never moving from the same place.
This is ridiculous.
I have yet to read that this could be a type of tower issue.
850MHz has good penetrating power and 1900MHz doesn't. 850 is newer, 1900 is the older standard.
I have yet to read of someone with one good unit and one bad one, both running 4.0.
Perhaps this is a combination of design (iPhone 4), software (previous iPHones running 4.0), and how it handles the cellular tower (850mhz vs. 1900mhz)
850MHz has good penetrating power and 1900MHz doesn't. 850 is newer, 1900 is the older standard.
I have yet to read of someone with one good unit and one bad one, both running 4.0.
Perhaps this is a combination of design (iPhone 4), software (previous iPHones running 4.0), and how it handles the cellular tower (850mhz vs. 1900mhz)
I am truly in agony over the decision to pick up my iPhone 4 tomorrow morning or not. I have an appointment at Best Buy at 7:30am and I was totally excited about it until earlier tonight when this problem surfaced.
There's a part of me that says go ahead and get it and just get it replaced when Apple has a fix. If it was clear that using a case would solve the problem for now, I would probably go ahead and do this. But there have been mixed reports of the problem still happening even with cases on. On top of that, Best Buy is not going to have any bumpers tomorrow, so I'll probably have to use some crappy cheap case that I don't even want.
The other part of me says just cancel my preorder and wait this thing out. I really didn't want to use a case, and I know this issue will bug me until it's resolved. But I know iPhone 4's are going to be hard to find for quite some time and I was lucky to get one at BB. However, it could literally be months before Apple acknowledges and fixes the problem and is able to replace phones for those affected. Apple took forever to acknowledge a problem with the yellow tinge on the 2009 iMac's, though they did eventually make things right.
What to do, what to do? Only 8.5 hours to decide!
There's a part of me that says go ahead and get it and just get it replaced when Apple has a fix. If it was clear that using a case would solve the problem for now, I would probably go ahead and do this. But there have been mixed reports of the problem still happening even with cases on. On top of that, Best Buy is not going to have any bumpers tomorrow, so I'll probably have to use some crappy cheap case that I don't even want.
The other part of me says just cancel my preorder and wait this thing out. I really didn't want to use a case, and I know this issue will bug me until it's resolved. But I know iPhone 4's are going to be hard to find for quite some time and I was lucky to get one at BB. However, it could literally be months before Apple acknowledges and fixes the problem and is able to replace phones for those affected. Apple took forever to acknowledge a problem with the yellow tinge on the 2009 iMac's, though they did eventually make things right.
What to do, what to do? Only 8.5 hours to decide!
Simple. Once activated and with 5 bars of 3G, I will pick it up and hold to see if I lose the signal. I'm also gonna make a call while I'm there to test that. If I lose the signal and or my call drops then I'll ask for another one. I'll try at least 3 if they let me before I all of a sudden start loving my 3GS again. I refuse to leave with defective unit.
Yeah, my bad, I always had mine shipped. I honestly didn't know they activated them in the store.
It's more like $2 million short not to mention the puts, and why not? After all as I said I already thought AAPL was heading down post iP4 release. If this iP4 story is indeed true, watch for AAPL to be down >20% by Friday's close, I kid you not, as the stock right now is priced for absolute perfection. If the iP4 does work as a phone and this thread is BS, then AAPL will probably be flat to 5% lower by Friday. Very little downside with a potentially high return in my view.