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iPhone 4 Reception Issue? [Video]

I can now wait for white iPhone without frustration. Probably they will address the issue by then. Anyway, most of the new phones always have several problems reported but over time people forget about them. When I got Xperia X10, almost everyone was complaining about battery but now most are happy:rolleyes:. My only worry is I am a left hander.
 
cheese0 said:
Might as well call him Mr. Sandler
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cotasm said:
I'd buy your logic if it weren't for one thing... when be bars drop to nothing ("Searching"), why do the current calls drop or initiated calls fail? THAT doesn't sound like software.
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Because the software controls the call. I've been in software for this kind of thing for a long time and have seen stranger things, but sorry I have no real insight from apple. We will probably know more tomorrow. If its a hardware problem I guess its case time :(

But having said that, it is possible the attenuation caused by touching the two antennae result in software reacting incorrectly to what is probably only a small signal drop, and thus could be corrected.

Hey, I've seen worse
 
ouimetnick said:
If its a hardware problem, then its a hardware problem, and will probably take a while to redesign the phone's antenna. I hope its a simple software fix though. I can confirm that my iPhone DOES NOT have this problem, and neither does my brothers. So i don't think its AT&T. Either way, tomorrow is the big day, and who ever fault it is, they better have a fix, or hell will burn over. I do see videos of iPhone 3G and 3GS with a similar issue, but I have not seen then drop the connection and say Searching, however I have seen it on the iPhone 4. It looks as the iPhone 4 is more sensitive, and has a weaker radio when your hand comes on contact with it.
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This might actually point to AT&T as the only consistent determination of whether someone has this problem seems to be where they are. Meaning, people either report it on all of their devices and software versions or none of them.

Another thing to consider is the degree of the problem. People with the new model experiencing a one bar drop may just be seeing an inherent limitation of an external antenna which has been deemed an acceptable level of interference.
 
Here's hoping the video is faked using a cellphone hammer by a competitor to discredit the iPhone...

:(

They'll work it out by the time we can buy them here in Australia anyway...
 
Odd...

With wifi off, 3G at 5 bars when sitting on the table, I held it in my left hand whilst bridging the antenna connection, and after about 2 minutes it had sloooowly ticked down to 2 bars.

I kept holding it though to see if it would drop further, but after about another minute or so the signal suddenly shot back up to 5 bars. Didn't change my hand positioning, at all. Any ideas as to why?
 
atomicbatteries said:
I do and I'm not worried one bit!

I seriously doubt anything could prove seriously damaging to Apple stock right now unless it started drilling for oil in the gulf early next week!:)
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You should be very worried because after rising in a straight and then parabolic fashion for 1.5 years AAPL was headed for a major plunge anyway. The iPhone 4 launch would have been the catalyst, in a typical "buy the rumor sell the fact" fashion.

Also growth funds and hedge funds are way overweight AAPL. There are no more natural buyers for AAPL stock. And the assumption that the mortgage-defaulting maxed-out consumer will keep buying Apple gadgets forever is delusional. If this is indeed a hardware flaw that went undetected until the turbo-hyped launch date, AAPL stock will be destroyed tomorrow.

I had entered a large short position by buying AAPL July puts yesterday because I expected an imminent pullback in the stock anyway. When I saw this thread and a bunch of others 5 hours ago I shorted several thousand AAPL shares outright in the last hours of US after-market trading at an average price of $270.50. There's absolutely no downside and huge upside to this trade.
 
So, does proximity to a tower affect the results. I've said before that I have a microcell and I cannot duplicate the results while I'm connected to it. If I feel like it I'll try to go out to the nearest AT&T tower and give it a test run again.
Just for the record I've held it and used a finger to connect the two antennas.

It just seems strange to me that bridging the two antennas in the real world results in signal loss, but with my microcell it does nothing. The testing goes on i suppose.
 
If I put bottom left corner of the iPhone 4 in my left hand, nearly instant dropped call.
 
Would everybody please forget everything they heard in this thread and just think about one thing.

Do you seriously think that Apple, developer of the Mac and iDevices just forgot or (even worse,) didn't know about the problems an outer antenna can cause? Seriously i can't believe you guys just assume that Apple don't know how antennas work! I'm not saying that this isn't a problem. I'm just saying that there can be hundreds of different reasons that can cause these issues. Just because we cant think of any other reasons doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Besides, we are still pre-launch, give it some time. And if it actually is a design flaw (which i highly doubt) THEN judge!
 
Metal Dice said:
Would everybody please forget everything heard in this thread and just think about one thing.

Do you seriously think that Apple, developer of the Mac and iDevices just forgot or (even worse,) didn't know about the problems an outer antenna can cause? Seriously i can't believe you guys just assume that Apple don't know how antennas work! I'm not saying that this isn't a problem. I'm just saying that there can be hundreds of different reasons that can cause these issues. Just because we cant think of any other reasons doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Besides, we are still pre-launch, give it some time. And if it actually is a design flaw (which i highly doubt) THEN judge!
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bold really?
dude this isnt rocket science... or even an imac. its very simple. hold the phone and the call drops... you're saying its a feature? nice. :confused:
 
Metal Dice said:
Would everybody please forget everything they heard in this thread and just think about one thing.

Do you seriously think that Apple, developer of the Mac and iDevices just forgot or (even worse,) didn't know about the problems an outer antenna can cause? Seriously i can't believe you guys just assume that Apple don't know how antennas work! I'm not saying that this isn't a problem. I'm just saying that there can be hundreds of different reasons that can cause these issues. Just because we cant think of any other reasons doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Besides, we are still pre-launch, give it some time. And if it actually is a design flaw (which i highly doubt) THEN judge!
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righteo... and while you're all waiting for a software patch to fix a clearly hardware-based problem, i think i'll start shorting AAPL too.
 
2contagious said:
Update: I have now used iOS 4.0 on O2-UK for a longer period of time and I was able to reproduce it, but only very slightly. I have to hold the iPhone 3G for about 30 secs for it to drop 1 bar (from 5 to 4 bars), it then goes back to 5 when I put it on the table or keep my palm flat. 1 bar isn't as bad, but I guess this shows that the massive issues on iPhone 4 could be either a mix of iOS 4.0 software issue and AT&T network (making the problem extra bad) OR a mix of iOS 4.0 software issue and iPhone 4 hardware issue (making the problem extra bad).
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iPhone 3G with iOS 4.0 since yesterday on O2 network in central London (South Kensington/Chelsea.) Absolutely no reception issues and I can't replicate the iPhone 4 loss of bars in any way.
 
I bought a good chunk of Apple stock when the market tanked a few weeks back...

I just logged into my Fidelity account and have it set to sell first thing in the morning...I have a feeling that this reception issue is going to get real huge real fast.
 
same issue with iphone 3G

i have two iphone 3G's. one with i phone 4 os update. Both phones when held firmly go from 5 bars to zero bars. unable to make call when at zero bars.

perhaps all these dropped calls last 2 years are not ATT's fault, but an I phone issue. Maybe people should try to reproduce same issue, may be old problem recently discoverd.
 
Stangs55 said:
I bought a good chunk of Apple stock when the market tanked a few weeks back...

I just logged into my Fidelity account and have it set to sell first thing in the morning...I have a feeling that this reception issue is going to get real huge real fast.
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and your and idiot to.....Guess I will be buying it when it sells low from you...Then making a killing later
 
I just used my friends.

CANNOT replicate this issue.

Must have been a batch of small units. 600,000+ units on launch...think about it. Even with a 5% defective rate, which is plenty normal, is 30,000 units. They account for this type of thing, and Apple MAKES GOOD with defective units. Everyone calm down please.

Also keep this in mind: people are more likely to bitch than praise. There are likely thousands of people with good quality hardware in their hands, enjoying it rather than trolling the forums.
 
Metal Dice said:
Would everybody please forget everything they heard in this thread and just think about one thing.

Do you seriously think that Apple, developer of the Mac and iDevices just forgot or (even worse,) didn't know about the problems an outer antenna can cause? Seriously i can't believe you guys just assume that Apple don't know how antennas work! I'm not saying that this isn't a problem. I'm just saying that there can be hundreds of different reasons that can cause these issues. Just because we cant think of any other reasons doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Besides, we are still pre-launch, give it some time. And if it actually is a design flaw (which i highly doubt) THEN judge!
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fanboy'd
 
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