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I personally can't repeat this problem on my phone. I just thought it was terrible AT$T just like normal. I only get 3 bars nearly everywhere I go and there is a tower not 2 miles from my house.
 
I am waiting a few months to upgrade BUT it seems that with every new release of iPhones, Macs, iPads, iPods and so on, there's frequently some flaw that soon after gets fixed one way or another by Apple. They are great in this way. In terms of not finding problems during testing in the field, do you think they have one hundred or so testers? Well today they have almost one million everywhere.
 
The bumpers from Apple alleviates the signal problem? Which clearly means Apple was well aware of the problem and still manufactured the device anyway.

Now it makes sense why Apple has decided to sell these.
So glad I've decided not to get with this. So far the 3GS is still the best iPhone out htere.
 
I think now we know why they create the bumper...

And the return of the bumper conspiracy people.

If they knew this was a problem and they knew the bumper was a solution then they would have just encased the antenna.

Stop spreading FUD. Sometimes a phone case is just a case.
 
"Alleviated" is a good choice of word. It doesn't seem to eliminate the issue in my experience - as I think others are saying it could be to do with humidity, natural skin oils getting through etc.

This is what we get for early adoption. I'm sure Apple will resolve it eventually (even if it's adjusted hardware and replacement phones), historically they seem to have been reasonable for this. It's not like they can say "oh that's just how it is" like with the old TN panel iMac issues etc.

Past incidents indicate that they won't admit to the fault until they have discussed it properly (a few weeks) and have a plan of action in mind. For now, don't panic. Don't touch the bottom left corner ;) Or if it matters, return it and wait 6 months.

I'll be surprised if it's a software fix, but it's tough to say without knowing all the technicalities. Perhaps in software they can detect the other radio stuff interfering and filter it digitally? Who knows.
 
The bumpers from Apple alleviates the signal problem? Which clearly means Apple was well aware of the problem and still manufactured the device anyway.


Here, you might need this...

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Mine does that too but then the bars slowly go back up after about a minute or two. Maybe there'll be a software update for it but at least the bars go back up bit it's up and down :/ but other than that, this phone is ****ing AMAZING!!!
 
Someone around here wrote that the signal indicator is based on the power consumed by the radio, or something like that. If one touches the antenna, some power leaks away, resulting in the phone to "think" there's worse reception.

Imagine that were true. Now, if Apple programmed the software so that a call is dropped when the reception is below a certain threshold—which is likely, because otherwise a call would sort of slowly die in case reception becomes really bad—it can be, in fact, a software problem.

Apple surprised me many times before what kinds of problems are solvable by software. Wait and see.
 
Buy this Apple accessory to get your reception back. Sounds fishy to me...

If that's their solution I'll be returning my phone.

I don't really like the bumpers and I use a belt clip holster so the only thing I cover my phone with is the full body screen protector.
 
Well durrrrrrr! this fix is common sense and as soon as I saw the issue with reception yesterday I put a case on my phone.

It still doesn't excuse the issue though. Basically negating the design engineering by using a case is a cop out for a failure in design.
 
Just buy a cheap bumper (who said you can buy only from Apple at 30$) and problem solved. You also will save back of a phone from scratching, because bumper will be touching the surface not the phone. If only all problems could be solved so easy ...

Unacceptable.

If the screen of my new iMac flicks, I just buy a filter for the screen. Right?
 
How many of you have the iP4?

i only counted 6 people on this forum that stated they have an iP4 with an issue...it seems that many don’t even have the phone but feel it necessary to comment negatively...pretty interesting. I got mine yesterday, i live 35 miles east of Nashville (in the sticks as they say) and i cant reproduce this problem. I am NOT SAYING it isnt real,l im just saying it doesn’t appear every phone has the issue. Following logic (oh my)it should be correctable on the phones with an issue. That its a design problem is remote, that it is a quality control issue is more likely just my opinion
 
Steve : "I would have gotten away with it too if it werent for you meddling kids and those macrumors folk!"
 
"Alleviated" is a good choice of word. It doesn't seem to eliminate the issue in my experience - as I think others are saying it could be to do with humidity, natural skin oils getting through etc.

This is what we get for early adoption. I'm sure Apple will resolve it eventually (even if it's adjusted hardware and replacement phones), historically they seem to have been reasonable for this. It's not like they can say "oh that's just how it is" like with the old TN panel iMac issues etc.

Past incidents indicate that they won't admit to the fault until they have discussed it properly (a few weeks) and have a plan of action in mind. For now, don't panic. Don't touch the bottom left corner ;)

I'll be surprised if it's a software fix, but it's tough to say without knowing all the technicalities. Perhaps in software they can detect the other radio stuff interfering and filter it digitally? Who knows.

The reason why I'm hopeful for a software fix is that during one of my holding it in my left hand demonstrations I've had the bars go from 4 to 1 to 3 to 5 and then hold steady all while not moving my hand or the phone. It is probably a combination of a lot of factors – material used to "bridge" the antenna, signal strength, software. Still, Apple acknowledge a bug to Walt so hopefully this can be mostly fixed with a simple software update.
 
I thought there was something strange about Apple offering up these bumpers. It didn't seem to be something the company would normally put out there itself. IF it turns out that the bumper or something like it is necessary to allow the phone to be a phone...that's a travesty. I don't care how unobtrusive or maybe even attractive it might be.
 
Two people, one phone. Signal drops with him but not with me. He has sweaty hands I don't. Piece of cello tape on the corner of the phone and the problems fixed. Think before you freak.

Apples testers really are cool people.
 
^ So we have to stick a piece of sticky tape over the gap of our very expensive, very high end gadget. :rolleyes: Or Apple could have just done a better job initially. My money is still on recall and replacements.

If this were a non-Apple phone, you'd be calling for the tar and feathers. lol

We' have people shouting "EPIC FAIL", "incompetence" etc.

Ah fanboys (and girls). They're a funny breed!

I don't like uses cases with my phones so no. I wouldn't accept a case to fix this - I'd demand a working iPhone 4.

Still can't believe this oversight.
 
Two people, one phone. Signal drops with him but not with me. He has sweaty hands I don't. Piece of cello tape on the corner of the phone and the problems fixed. Think before you freak.

Apples testers really are cool people.


Did you guys switch phones to make sure it is the person using it and not just the phone being used?
 
Everyone that says that this problem is not affecting them is wrong. It is affecting every single iphone4. As the best test i have found, try loading any website while placing a finger over the line in the lower left corner of the phone. The page will not load, the second you let it go it starts to load, and the instant you touch it again it fails once again. What I have noticed is that Cellular may still work if touching that area (If there is good signal where you are) but data will not work at all no matter how good the signal. There is no software fix for this I dont think. Its either A) use a case/bumper or B) try to not touch that area (much harder when using left hand).

Would this be grounds for a class action lawsuit if Apple does not try to remedy this problem somehow? I do think at least they should give out free bumpers.
 
The problem comes from completing the circuit by holding flesh over the gap between the top portion of metal and bottom portion of metal. This causes the interference that diminishes the signal. The solution is to not put your finger in that spot, or in the alternative, buy a case to cover the area.

For what it's worth, I get better reception on this new version provided that I'm not completing the circuit. Call quality is vastly improved.

It's a small issue. All hardware has some issue(s). This should not be a dealbreaker for anyone.

That is absolutely ridiculous, and if it were anyone but Apple, the very kind of thing Steve Jobs would scoff at as poor engineering, lack of attention to details, etc. "If you have to tell the customer how to hold the phone, you've failed."

Glad I decided to hold off on this one, hopefully they'll have it fixed by the time the mythical Verizon model appears.
 
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