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Hopefully they will put real bars instead of that 1x,2x,3x,4x crap that no one understands.
 
This "new" phone - if it does exist will not be just a phone that fixes the antenna issue. It would be public relations suicide as it would be admitting that a few months ago - they lied.

Not going to happen.

It's either a CDMA hybrid or whatever. But it's not the next generation or 1/2 gen iPhone.

Anyone who had an inkling of common sense would be able to realize this.
 
The free bumper effort ended last month I thought.

It did, as a PR stunt it helped Apple. Now it ended.


Hopefully they will put real bars instead of that 1x,2x,3x,4x crap that no one understands.

It's not hard to get. Apple just mis labeled the bar mapping versus the signal strength. However, that still doesn't mean the antenna didn't have an issue. The wrong mapping just made the issue that much more open.
 
Does Verizon also still think that "unlimited" means around 5-6GB per month? :p

I used 9 GB last month and 11GB the previous month on my Incredible without a word from Verizon so I'd like evidence where they currently think that unlimited really isn't unlimited.
 
This "new" phone - if it does exist will not be just a phone that fixes the antenna issue. It would be public relations suicide as it would be admitting that a few months ago - they lied.

Not going to happen.

It's either a CDMA hybrid or whatever. But it's not the next generation or 1/2 gen iPhone.

Anyone who had an inkling of common sense would be able to realize this.

yet, unfortunately...
 
It did, as a PR stunt it helped Apple. Now it ended.




It's not hard to get. Apple just mis labeled the bar mapping versus the signal strength. However, that still doesn't mean the antenna didn't have an issue. The wrong mapping just made the issue that much more open.

I wasn't referring to the hardware (since there really is a issue - I hate when people say its a "nonissue") but I was really talking about this:

_EV1X.JPG
 
The same, with fixed issues. I'm guessing a fixed iPhone from the antenna issues and no CDMA support. Why support such dying standard? Also, don't give me the Verizon owns more customers than AT&T or Android this or that. That is here in the US; out there, the story is much different.

hmm, who purchases the largest percentage of iPhones produced? Americans. Who are the most lucrative customers for Apple? Americans. A CDMA iPhone is coming, maybe not necessarily January but definitely by the June/July iPhone 5 launch. The Apple/Verizon iPad partnership is the first step towards the CDMA iPhone.
 
I wasn't referring to the hardware (since there really is a issue - I hate when people say its a "nonissue") but I was really talking about this:

_EV1X.JPG

That is new to me, kdarling may know about that.


hmm, who purchases the largest percentage of iPhones produced? Americans. Who are the most lucrative customers for Apple? Americans. A CDMA iPhone is coming, maybe not necessarily January but definitely by the June/July iPhone 5 launch. The Apple/Verizon iPad partnership is the first step towards the CDMA iPhone.

By today's conference call, 57% percent of earnings came internationally. So, no, you are wrong. The Verizon iPad thing was something given since we have Wi-Fi iPads and pretty much all Verizon has to do is sell you the Mi-Fi.... not that bad. Also, people were already doing this, so Apple just said, ok, use our name and we'll give you the iPads.
 
I used 9 GB last month and 11GB the previous month on my Incredible without a word from Verizon so I'd like evidence where they currently think that unlimited really isn't unlimited.

This is widely known...Google for more sources, but here is a reliable one:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/29/verizon-charging-for-data-over-5gb-on-unlimited-plan/

Perhaps this has changed since, I stopped shopping for wireless data a few years ago when I realized I didn't need it.
 
Time for Gizmodo reporters to start lurking in the dark corners of Silicon Valley restaurants...
 
I used 9 GB last month and 11GB the previous month on my Incredible without a word from Verizon so I'd like evidence where they currently think that unlimited really isn't unlimited.

This should also help:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/1031-misconceptions-unlimited-data.html

Just don't tether or at least don't get caught tethering without paying for it. The lesson is that Verizon may reach back in time to even-up on your over usage.

And to the subject of the post - Less we forget that Gizmodo did not find the iPhone4, someone took it from Grey Powell and sold it to Gizmodo. Haunting Gizmodo is not the answer, being an Apple employee and getting drunk is.
 
There's a fourth possibility:

Apple is simply using existing cases for the prototypes rather than create prototypes at this stage of development.
 
By today's conference call, 57% percent of earnings came internationally. So, no, you are wrong. The Verizon iPad thing was something given since we have Wi-Fi iPads and pretty much all Verizon has to do is sell you the Mi-Fi.... not that bad. Also, people were already doing this, so Apple just said, ok, use our name and we'll give you the iPads.

I didn't say total earnings, I said that the largest percentage of iPhones produced are sold in the US. The iPad deal is huge even though it may not seem like it. For one thing, Verizon could care less about selling a couple of iPads unless they were getting something in return. I can tell you right now, Verizon is not going to be selling a lot of iPads. Most people are not going to bother having to get a Mifi and have to deal with a 2nd device. As Verizon has stated numerous times, they want the iPhone and nothing less.

And since when was Apple so eager to just let someone "use their name". Apple is a company who wouldn't even let AT&T, their sole US carrier, make commercials for the iPhone. And now you are saying that they are more than willing to let Verizon "use their name" just to push a few iPads. Dude, get a clue.
 
Am I ever glad I passed on the iPhone 4 because if this is true I would be really mad if I was one of the first buyers. But in reality Steve doesn't give a crap what you think, it all boils down to Apple removing your hard earned money from your pocket.
 
I don't buy a revision coming out that is intended to solely fix perceived antenna issues. First, it involves admitting there's a problem (which they adamantly denied at their press conference), and second, it means there must be new FCC certification and some sort of official recourse for early adopters. None of this makes sense for a phone that still sells like hotcakes. If this iPhone 3,2 hits, it's a CDMA version.

However, has anyone considered the fact that Apple always keeps the last generation of phones on sale? It could be possible that it's a CDMA iPhone 4 to be co-released with the CDMA iPhone 5 next summer.
 
I didn't say total earnings, I said that the largest percentage of iPhones produced are sold in the US. The iPad deal is huge even though it may not seem like it. For one thing, Verizon could care less about selling a couple of iPads unless they were getting something in return. I can tell you right now, Verizon is not going to be selling a lot of iPads. Most people are not going to bother having to get a Mifi and have to deal with a 2nd device.

And since when was Apple so eager to just let someone "use their name". Apple is a company who wouldn't even let AT&T, their sole US carrier, make commercials for the iPhone. And now you are saying that they are more than willing to let Verizon "use their name" just to push a few iPads. Dude, get a clue.

Well, evidence goes to differ. Verizon has now bragging rights about carrying the iPad, which they could since Day 1 because of Mi-Fi. But it is until now that they can say "in a PARTNERSHIP WITH APPLE". Before, no chance.
 
Iphones with 4G are a year and a half away, so I'm thinking 2011's phone will be called something like 4S, then 2012 would be 4G or 4GS, then iphone 5 for some year after that.
 
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Yah and... 57% international includes greece, Italy, Spain, portugal, UK, Australia, etc. So if you numbers are correct, then you are not :rolleyes:
 
Am I ever glad I passed on the iPhone 4 because if this is true I would be really mad if I was one of the first buyers. But in reality Steve doesn't give a crap what you think, it all boils down to Apple removing your hard earned money from your pocket.


lol...keep waiting..

I think *if* VzW gets the iphone it will be in June '11 at the earliest. People expecting a new iphone before the upgrade cycle are nuts. Mark my words.
 
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