iPhone 4GB and 8GB, Coming in January?

[ezekielrage_99]

No, I'm in the Gong right now.

My location is all part of something I can't tell you.

And maybe there are more people in the US using CDMA, who cares? There are more people outside the US who are NOT using CDMA, Apple should make this phone globally appealing not just something for the US consumers.

I'm betting if the iPhone is released it wont be sold outside the US for at least 12 months.

I'm still not sold on the idea that the iPhone will ever be released, too many rumors and not enough REAL evidence.

Still if we see an iPhone in January I wont complain and all probability I will been buy one.

 

[Stella]

Get a Nokia E70 smartphone. Does all of what you listed.

I cant wait to see what this is like, i hope that it is a nano and windows mobile killer, because that is what i want.

I would like a small stable smartphone and an iPod nano all in one unit.

I hope for:

• Large resolution screen (min 240x320)
• keypad or keybord, & touch screen
• camera (anything will do, just enough for mms & email)
• a few GB memory, about 4gb seems right
• IM (Instant Messaging) all my friends are on MSN
• E-mail
• Mac syncing

anything anyone want to add?

 

[ro2nie]

In the latest episode of Diggnation, Kevin Rose (at ~38:30) claims to know some details about the Apple phone from a "solid" source.

According to Rose, little bit of inside info on the Apple phone:

- Going to be coming out in January
- All phone providers
- "It's small as sh*t"
- Don't know anything about the Operating System
- The OS is supposed to be "cool"
- Doing some unique things
- Two batteries, one charger. One for MP3 portion and one for Phone.
- 4GB ($249) and 8GB ($449)
- Flash memory, Slide out keyboard
- Maybe touch screen?

Kevin Rose was co-host of The Screen Savers on Tech TV and later started Digg.com. Last year, he offered last minute rumors prior to Macworld San Francisco which turned out to be accurate.

How small is a sh**t?. Mine tend to be very big, so I am a bit confused here.
Would be nice if we knew the dimensions of it

 

[Stella]

The E62 lacks WIFI. Its a different model to the E61.

Why anyone would get a E62 instead of an E61 is beyond me. Pay the extra for an unlocked E61.

i would love it if apple could pull this off.



alot of the phones sold by rogers in canada, and cingular in the U.S. are neutered. for example, the nokia e61 sold in europe had wifi, while at the north american carriers's request, they had the wi-fi feature removed. why? so they could make more money on data. wifi would be a definite advatage over bberries and moto qs and moto e's being sold currently in N.A.

it will be interesting to see how this phone will be marketed...

if the phone is 'unlocked', we are going to see alot of carriers not offering support for technical issues. in europe, and the middle east, people buy phones from thirs party retailers; this is in stark contrast to north america, where most phones are bought from the provider directly, and are usually bundled into a contract...

someone else brought up 3G. GSM carriers in north america are just beginning to roll out 3G (3.5G actually) on a national level. what kind of specs are we going to see? quad band is a given, but will it be North American 3G (UMTS 850/1900) or European Spec (UMTS 1900/2100) [NOTE: my knowloedge of this is a bit patchy, so someone please correct me if im wrong)... there is a difference between european and north american 'Third Generation'. Or will it be 2G with plain jane 850/900/1800/1900? that'd be kind of lame...

 

[bigandy]

Get a Nokia E70 smartphone. Does all of what you listed.

except it's a Nokia

The E62 lacks WIFI. Its a different model to the E61.

Why anyone would get a E62 instead of an E61 is beyond me. Pay the extra for an unlocked E61.

Except they're Nokias too

People aren't in this thread for advice on which Nokia to buy, they're here discussing a potential iPhone - and what they'd like to see it do.

I don't think telling them to get another phone is really constructive.

 

[CEAbiscuit]

Yeah but who uses CDMA? Talk about old tech.

Verizon and Alltel in the States both use CDMA. Two of the largest Tier 1 carriers in the US. Again, again I question the rumor because of it's claim that the phone will work on all carriers.

NM: Everybody has already stated it. Alas...

 

[Mtn Tamale]

Verizon towers:Cingular towers 1:7 bogus

I build networks for these guys for a living. That is bogus info. If anything, GSM has the slight lead in efficiency expressed as coverage per tower. However, Verizon have had a better business plan with sharper guys for a lot longer. Cingular is still a kluge, and it is way more expensive to fix their disparate networks now than it was for Verizon over the last 10 years of acquisitions. That is why Verizon is better in general.

There seems to be a lot of discussion about CDMA vs. GSM, so I thought I'd chime in with an interesting fact...

According to Verizon (CDMA) for every 1 tower they have, it takes 7 of Cingular's (GSM) to cover the same area.

This does come from Verizon, so perhaps it should be taken with a grain of salt, but I must admit, I'm never been in an area where Cingular had coverage and Verizon didn't... it's always the other way around. For now, CDMA has the better coverage.

 

[reykjavik]

Seriously, this sucks.

I was hoping for awifi phone. It would have been much more Apple like to do something different. Now they are just going for small size which is totaly useless to me. It will only mean that it is going to be even easier to lose/forget it in my coat pocket...

Wifi phone are the future, just imagine: as long as you have access to a wifi network, you get free service! And with the coverage offered by wifi-max, if shouldnt be a problem in the 2-3 next years.

There is one such phone availlable in japan right now (cant find the link) it is using Skype and look very Apple like.

I could not agree more. Like Apple pushed Bluetooth, they should be pushing a new technology like wifi phone service. Who needs yet another cell phone which does everything but nothing right all at the same time? If Apple comes out with just another cell phone it'll be just another outdated product a month later like any LG or Moto phone.

And I also take issue with the "all providers" comment. Does this mean it will be GSM and CDMA? So Verizon would be totally cool allowing a phone on its airwaves which competes with its own music store (directly or indirectly)??? I find that very hard to believe. Verizon doesn't ever do anything that doesn't equate to instant massive rip-off profits. Allowing Apple to sell their own phone which competes with Verizons does not fit that equation. Kevin Rose is wrong. Sorry people.

 

[reykjavik]

Lots of people buy SIM free phones in England and sell the free ones that come with a contract. We have phones with 3MP cameras, really thin and aren't into flip phones (apart from RAZR) that much. Candy bar style like Sony and Nokia are more traditional in this country.

yeah...and I'd give all that up to not pay a VAT so suck it.

 

[aswitcher]

Heres hoping its true +

- Bluetooth for wireless headphone/mike set
- 2+ megapixel camera
- sync
- GPS...
- comes in black

 

[iMikeT]

Please, stop teasing me!

 

[borisadmin]

"all providers" etc.

I think by "all providers" he just means "unlocked". There is no way Apple supports CDMA and GSM in a single device.

As per the poster earlier, unlocked CDMA phone is a pain in the ass to activate on the network, whereas GSM is a no-brainer. Important interface distinction here, Apple will not be afraid to go with a smaller, more open, easierr-to-use platform.

In particular: anyone who travels to Europe or SE Asia a lot (i.e. those with money who aren't afraid to spend it, Apple's core market) uses GSM. I'd be shocked if they went CDMA. This is nothing to do with the technology, but about market niche. GSM people are Apple people (richer urban cosmopolitans) by and large.

Apple were burnt by the motorola association and they now understand that they have to control the ecosystem. I would be surprised if they do any deals with network operators, especially those that place stupid restrictions on device usage and content mobility. They will make this product a success and dare the NOs not to support it.

Remember that the ipod started out expensive then they went to a broader mass market later. Apple won't start on the cheap side of things. They will make a low-volume product that people will drool over and say "I wish I could afford that. Well, maybe my credit card can handle it...". These are the people who sell black macbooks to suckers like me who care about design.

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a camera for the same reason the camera is now included in the macbook line. Personal imaging is part of the apple experience. I wouldn't be surprised to see iChat AV style videoconf over 3G.

Looking forward to seeing what they come up with. Good rumour, and totally disagree with the poster who claims that there's no business model for apple. There's no business model if you think about it as a phone in the way phones are sold in the US. If you think about it as an expensive piece of hardware in a sector crying out for user interface improvements, it replicates the ipod situation pretty well.

 

[donlphi]

Ok, so it the price points are correct, this means that an iPhone will cost the same as an iPod nano of the same size. That doesn't sound right, which means Apple will have to either, 1- increase the space on the nano, or 2- lower the price on the nano. We all know apple will never lower the price, so this means there's an iPod nano update in the works too!

The 80 GB Video iPOD went down in price from the original 60 GB video iPOD. More storage and less cost. Never say never.

 

[Mgkwho]

who says iPOD with all caps?

-=|Mgkwho

 

[backsidetailsli]

coool i cant wait!

 

[BWhaler]

How small is a sh**t?. Mine tend to be very big, so I am a bit confused here.
Would be nice if we knew the dimensions of it

Post of the day. Man, that is some funny sh-- uh, nevermind.

 

[joeshell383]

No, I'm in the Gong right now.

My location is all part of something I can't tell you.

And maybe there are more people in the US using CDMA, who cares? There are more people outside the US who are NOT using CDMA, Apple should make this phone globally appealing not just something for the US consumers.

What an ignorant comment. The U.S., obviously, is key to Apple. Ignoring the majority of cell subscribers here would not be smart. My guess is a CDMA version and a GSM version, nothing new. Most phone manufacturers make two versions of U.S. phones.

 

[Stella]

Nothing wrong with nokia

Anyway, I was making a SUGGESTION - IF YOU WANTED A PHONE THAT HAS ALL THE FEATURES THAT WAS LISTED, THEN CONSIDER THE NOKIA E-SERIES!!!

i don't think your girlie bitchy comment contributed towards this discussion, either.

Personally I think an Apple phone will be too basic to be usable - a la iWeb.

except it's a Nokia


Except they're Nokias too

People aren't in this thread for advice on which Nokia to buy, they're here discussing a potential iPhone - and what they'd like to see it do.

I don't think telling them to get another phone is really constructive.

 

[rtharper]

What an ignorant comment. The U.S., obviously, is key to Apple. Ignoring the majority of cell subscribers here would not be smart. My guess is a CDMA version and a GSM version, nothing new. Most phone manufacturers make two versions of U.S. phones.

Yeah, I'm unclear about why people think that they would need one phone for both techs. Nearly all phones in the US have two versions, including most Nokia and Motorola phones.

 

[Iverieli]

counting days, hours, seconds.....

Its possible to apple make iphone different models for USA and Europe, I meant different models for CDMA and GSM networks. There's coming new handsets in UK with high speed broadband connections and apple has to do same thing. I hope thats happens.

 

[dolbinau]

What are my chances of using one of these phones on an Australian Prepaid carrier (such as Optus)? Is it as simple as plug in and go?

 

[WildPalms]

No, I'm in the Gong right now.

My location is all part of something I can't tell you.

And maybe there are more people in the US using CDMA, who cares? There are more people outside the US who are NOT using CDMA, Apple should make this phone globally appealing not just something for the US consumers.

Ahh ok, I noticed your location is set wrong - Annapolis, MD *wink wink* (very cloak and dagger, very clever )

Not sure where your CDMA comment came from....but you know what? A company can make a product to suit whatever region it cares to. I'm glad its CDMA and couldnt care any less about countries outside the US

 

[flukewurm]

aw **** kevin. you've really gone and done it now.

 

[Yonizzle]

Yeah, I'm unclear about why people think that they would need one phone for both techs. Nearly all phones in the US have two versions, including most Nokia and Motorola phones.

Yeah, I've been assssuming that's what Kevin Rose meant in making the "all networks" comment: that for any provider, you could get an iPhone to work with it, but not that there'd be a single model for all network techs. The comment seems compatible with either scenario, but the former is far more likely given how few combined GSM/CDMA devices exist.

I do think it's likely they'd roll out the GSM model first, then see if reviews and market reaction dictate any changes before ramping up production on the CDMA model.

 

[Chundles]

What are my chances of using one of these phones on an Australian Prepaid carrier (such as Optus)? Is it as simple as plug in and go?

If it's fully unlocked it should work just fine, you'd buy the phone and get one of those cheap $2 SIM cards and away you go. Where you'd run into problems is if Apple country-lock the phone (which I doubt) - I got a phone in Canada and managed to unlock the carrier but not the country so it doesn't work very well here in Australia.

Hopefully it'll work on all common frequencies.