'iPhone 4GS' Case and Detailed Parts Video

[MadMacxxx]

Bravo for repeating the obvious and another round of applause for missing the point entirely.

Based on his opinion, he feels that it may be the next logical step for Apple to separate the buttons. Do you see the problem with this?

Stating my opinion is just as meaningless as him stating his own, because in the end, we both don't have a clue as to what Apple will do.

It is however, rather pointless to debate on a future modification and insist that it improves upon the user experience, when it is in fact, only based soley on opinion alone with no valid cause for change.

And you think I didn't understand that? I thought it was funny that instead of just telling him what you just told me, you expelled the energy to explain your point of view to him, after you stated that basing these assumptions on opinion is meaningless.

 

[MadMacxxx]

Mmm, smells like bull ****.

Obviously I know what needs to be done in place for them to work, or again I wouldn't have commented on it. Pay attention so I don't have to repeat myself, class is in session.

So if you know what it takes, then why are you even considering the possibility that these are made of hard plastic. Why wouldn't you just dismiss these as poor renderings? Doesn't it seem more logical to assume that there was a mistake made in these renderings, then to say that these cases must be made of hard plastic just because they look like hard plastic to you?

I'm assuming things that I can physically see and differentiate. You are basing things that aren't concrete and you provide no evidence for. First your buddy thinks the buttons have caps on them then he thinks that the case is made of soft material. The side you are defending holds no grounds. That case does not look like silicon and it doesn't look like rubber. What is hard plastic? Plastic that snaps and doesn't bend.

And this is entirely based on your perception of the material in those photos, and not facts. Where's your proof that the cases are made of hard plastic? So what qualifies you as an expert at discerning what material that case is made of?

That case does not look like silicon and it doesn't look like rubber.

Yea? Says who? Where's your proof?

 

[baryon]

I hope it won't be called 4GS. If 4G stands for the 4G network, the same way as 3G stands for the 3G network, then how does that make sense? There is no 4G network as far as I know. And keeping the "S" would be stupid since the S is what made the difference between the "3G" and the "3GS", so show that the 3GS is faster than the 3G. Now the 4GS doesn't have to show that it's faster than the 3G, since that's obvious. And there would be no 4G without an S so it wouldn't make sense.

I would call it the the "iPhone 4", wouldn't that make sense? This is the 4th major release of the iPhone, the first one was the EDGE iPhone, the 2nd one was the 3G, and the third one was the 3GS...

 

[aiqw9182]

And this is entirely based on your perception of the material in those photos, and not facts. Where's your proof that the cases are made of hard plastic? So what qualifies you as an expert at discerning what material that case is made of?

Where's my proof? It isn't that hard to tell that the material is hard plastic. You can tell by how its shaped and how it fits around the headphone jack. Also keep in mind your argument was trying to prove that your opinion is somehow superior to mine, not the other way around.

Oh and even if the case WAS silicon and rubber, the buttons would still already be pushed down. There's logic for you, this case is retarded.

 

[Icaras]

And you think I didn't understand that? I thought it was funny that you expelled the energy to explain your point of view to him, after stating that basing these assumptions on opinions is meaningless.

Yes, I suppose your right. I did expel much energy to prove my point. Maybe a sentence or two long I guess.

I was simply trying to show how pointless it is by sharing my own opinion, but I guess I convoluted the issue further

 

[hendot]

The seams on the side are so you can use a new function. Squeeze the sides of the phone to do... something.
I think the seams are for a squeeze button, kind of like the old mighty mouse.

 

[MadMacxxx]

You can tell

I can tell? No, I can't. I think it looks like silicon, and I have the same exact and the only piece of information as you do; that photo. So what qualifies your opinion about that material in the photo to be superior to my opinion that it isn't hard plastic? Do you have some information that I don't?

You can tell by how its shaped and how it fits around the headphone jack.

It's shaped like the prototype iPhone, and no, I can't tell by how it fits around the headphone jack because I don't know if that's a computer rendering, or a real case on an actual iphone prototype, and if they were real photos, I'd have to take the lighting and camera angles into account. Sorry, but there isn't enough evidence in either direction to determine what the case is made of, but we can speculate what it would need to be made of to support the functionality of the buttons.

Oh and even if the case WAS silicon and rubber, the buttons would still already be pushed down. There's logic for you, this case is retarded.

No, there are plenty of silicon iphone 3G/S cases that cover the power button and volume rocker without depressing them. Just like current cases made of Silicon/rubber, this specific case could have material light/thin enough to allow for the buttons to function properly. Ultimately, there is no evidence to support what I just stated, nor your opinion either.

 

[aiqw9182]

I can tell? No, I can't. I think it looks like silicon, and I have the same exact and the only piece of information as you do; that photo. So what qualifies your opinion about that material in the photo to be superior to my opinion that it isn't hard plastic? Do you have some information that I don't?


It's shaped like the prototype iPhone, and no, I can't tell by how it fits around the headphone jack because I don't know if that's a computer rendering, or a real case on an actual iphone prototype, and if they were real photos, I'd have to take the lighting and camera angles into account. Sorry, but there isn't enough evidence in either direction to determine what the case is made of, but we can speculate what it would need to be made of to support the functionality of the buttons.

What information do I have that you don't? I have eyes that are functioning properly.

And again, even if the case was made of silicon the buttons would always be pressed down. Your argument just went tits up.

 

[rkswat]

You are aware that this is based entirely off your opinion, right? My experience on the volume rocker is that I do not have any of the troubles or issues you pointed out. I personally have no problems finding my way between "up" and "down" on the rocker, and I'm a little confused as to how making separate buttons will remedy this to those who do find it difficult to discern between two opposite directions on their thumb. And as I continue to reiterate: I still believe the clumsy large buttons are hideous and extremely un-Apple like. It's a "prototype" in every sense of the word.

FFS then don't buy it! Seeing as apple designed it how can you say it's "un-apple?" Your entire theory = FAIL

Where's my proof? It isn't that hard to tell that the material is hard plastic. You can tell by how its shaped and how it fits around the headphone jack. Also keep in mind your argument was trying to prove that your opinion is somehow superior to mine, not the other way around.
h and even if the case WAS silicon and rubber, the buttons would still already be pushed down. There's logic for you, this case is retarded.

Wow, like the above quote, your quote also = Fail.

So despite knowing what needs to be in place to allow those buttons to work, you would rather disregard the possibility that these are just poor 500x300 renderings, and argue that because the material looks like hard plastic to you, that they must be made of hard plastic? And we're wrong for simply stating that no matter what the photo shows, the material would have to be soft? They look like silicon to me. How do you define what looks like hard plastic, and what doesn't, in a 500x300 prototype rendering? What criteria needs to be met? At this point, it seems like it's just a matter of opinion. Opinions aside, given what we know about hard and soft materials, we know that in order for those buttons to sit beneath the case material and still function correctly, the case would have to be made of a softer material, no matter what those photos show. We're not "making up **** as we go," we're simply applying a little logic.

Just give up. I think it looks like a silicone style case also and his argument that if it was the buttons would be pushed in already is just ridiculous. I guess he has never used/seen a silicone style case on an iPhone. Esp seeing as the area he is highlighting shows a bit of a raised area above the hp jack.... which happens to all silicone cases over time if you tend to put them in and pull them out of pockets. As a matter of fact, I can send him a silicone case that has the buttons covered and is loose on top which would make it look like the picture. As a matter of fact here is a link to lots of silicone cases that "cover" the buttons so basically his argument went "tits up".
http://www.phonecasestore.com/iPhone_Silicone_Skins_and_Covers_s/23.htm

 

[NightFox]

Surely these have got to be hard plastic - if they're silicon then HTF do they stay on the phone? There doesn't seem to be enough rim for a flexible case to grip, surely the small step between the edge and the side is only big enough for a rigid case to be locked onto it?

Besides, at least on those renderings, the angles look too sharp and the transparency too high for silicon. But then again, how do you operate the power switch? I think these are just faulty renders.

IMHO.

 

[MadMacxxx]

What information do I have that you don't? I have eyes that are functioning properly.

What? Just because the material looks clear, it's hard plastic?
To make your claim valid, would you like to compare the results of our latest retinoscopy, refraction test, autorefractor and aberrometer test, cover test, slit-lamp test, glaucoma test, visual field test, and dilation tests? Otherwise, you know that your superior eye sight claim doesn't hold up.

And again, even if the case was made of silicon the buttons would always be pressed down. Your argument just went tits up.

Really? So explain how some current iPhone 3G/S cases cover the buttons, but don't depress them? So, now you're also going to assume that if they were to use silicon, the silicon would be so thick or drawn so taught that the buttons would be depressed? So, now you're going to create new arguments without any substantial evidence to support your claims? While we're at it, I'm speculating that the hard plastic would cause the iphone to sweat becuase it isn't breathable, and silicon would give the iphone a chafing rash

 

[Gazerbeam]

All I want to know is whether or not the little Apple logo in back lights up or not.

 

[MadMacxxx]

What if it's a hybrid case? Silicon and hard plastic.

 

[adztaylor]

All I want to know is whether or not the little Apple logo in back lights up or not.

That would be great... middle of the night on the phone to someone. Apple logo shining for everyone to see. It would scream "come rob me"

 

[aiqw9182]

Wow, like the above quote, your quote also = Fail.

Just give up. I think it looks like a silicone style case also and his argument that if it was the buttons would be pushed in already is just ridiculous. I guess he has never used/seen a silicone style case on an iPhone. Esp seeing as the area he is highlighting shows a bit of a raised area above the hp jack.... which happens to all silicone cases over time if you tend to put them in and pull them out of pockets. As a matter of fact, I can send him a silicone case that has the buttons covered and is loose on top which would make it look like the picture. As a matter of fact here is a link to lots of silicone cases that "cover" the buttons so basically his argument went "tits up".
http://www.phonecasestore.com/iPhone_Silicone_Skins_and_Covers_s/23.htm

Yeah, my argument went tits up from you posting a bunch of cases that look nothing like the one posted in this thread. Great job einstein.

What? Just because the material looks clear, it's hard plastic?

Really? So explain how some current iPhone 3G/S cases cover the buttons, but don't depress them? So, now you're also going to assume that if they were to use silicon, the silicon would be so thick or drawn so taught that the buttons would be depressed? So, now you're going to create new arguments without any substantial evidence to support your claims? While we're at it, I'm speculating that the hard plastic would cause the iphone to sweat becuase it isn't breathable, and silicon would give the iphone a chafing rash

Do me a favor and show me where I said all silicon cases would press down on the buttons. I'd love to see it.

The way this is case is designed in particular would push them down if it was silicon. The headphone jack port would not sit like that on a silicon case and the silicon case would not be that clear. Case closed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4

 

[benedetti]

I just hope the current TomTom Car Kit is still fitting. I won't spend another 150 bucks for that.

I'm thinking just about the same. And I'm afraid it won't fit .

 

[Mainyehc]

I'm convinced!

These parts do, indeed, seem to be the real deal. Bonus points to my fellow portuguese bloggers for using a decent camera for a change!

 

[iamtrip]

Cases look really tacky! And who can't wait a month to make sure the case they buy is perfect for the final model...

 

[Dokter_Mac]

Look again:

as well as the imac

and if I recall the macbooks have (or had) smaller screws....



what does that have to do with anything?


and yet you

As a loyal iPod Touch user and a happy owner off all 3 models I can tell you that non of these iPods have screws. And none of the 3 models have a plastic case. They are all build with beautyfull quality metal, as in the iPad and so called new iPhone, so I do understand the logic behind the 'no screws allowed by Apple', posted before...

In fact much more then the logic I've read in reply to this post...
It makes no sense at all when comparing a mobile device, powered by a ARM processor, with Desktop Macs or MacBook series powered with Intel processors and where the screws have a function allowed by Apple for Memory expansion.
There is a super huge differance between a iPod Touch and it's big brother, the iPad, and Desktop hardware. Don't you think that? The iPad is more iPod then iPhone so one compares it much more with a iPod Touch then any other device from Apple. The new iPhone seems to have a Metal case so there is a very real chance that the new iPhone will have screws. It's a 'phone' and the claim that all iPhones have screws is true, but please don't compare this with a Mac Desktop as a reason why those screws are present on iPhones and not on iPod Touches and iPads.

My other 2 € cents about the new design is very positive! It looks more as a 'phone' and I'm sure more people will buy one rather because of the new design. And you always can put more components in this design then in current and previous models! That's simply math...

With regards.

 

[trekkie604]

Phone innards look good... The hard plastic case is hideous, but most cloner cases suck anyway. I can't wait to replace my 3G, compared to my iPad the thing is slow as molasses...

 

[ChazUK]

The next iPhone itself is stunning but those cases don't do much for it to be honest.

Perhaps it's the colours but a phone of that quality doesn't look right in something so garish.

 

[Warbrain]

alright there were several macrumor members who swore they will not buy the next iphone because it 'looks ugly'

stand up before us and not be a coward

tell us that u still stand by your word!

If Apple doesn't produce anything spec-wise to wow me I'm considering getting a 3GS or switching to a different cell phone.

 

[MadMacxxx]

Do me a favor and show me where I said all silicon cases would press down on the buttons. I'd love to see it.

This is irrelevant. Whether or not you said that doesn't matter, and I never stated that you mentioned that. Without any real evidence or extra knowledge about the case, you're claiming that this particular design in silicon would depress the buttons. I stated that there are several other silicon cases that already do this to try to convey that it's been done with other cases, so why not on this one?

The way this is case is designed in particular would push them down if it was silicon. The headphone jack port would not sit like that on a silicon case and the silicon case would not be that clear.

How do you know for certain that this design would push the buttons down? Based on what, that 500x300 rendering? You can't consider the possibility that if it were silicon, it would be thin/light enough not to disrupt the proper function of the buttons? And based off of one poor 500x300 rendering, you're going to assume that the transparency of the material must indicate hard plastic? What if it's a hybrid of the two materials? What if it's just a camera angel, or the result of photo editing/rendering? With only the information at hand, there isn't enough evidence to support either one of our arguments.

 

[trekkie604]

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All I want to know is whether or not the little Apple logo in back lights up or not.

If it glows, safari would undeniably be 'snappier'

 

[aiqw9182]

This is irrelevant. Whether or not you said that doesn't matter, and I never stated that you mentioned that. Without any real evidence or extra knowledge about the case, you're claiming that this particular design in silicon would depress the buttons. I stated that there are several other silicon cases that already do this to try to convey that it's been done with other cases, so why not on this one?

Show me a silicon case with the exact same design as this that hugs the edge of the phones buttons this tightly.

How do you know for certain that this design would push the buttons down? Based on what, that 500x300 rendering? You can't consider the possibility that if it were silicon, it would be thin/light enough not to disrupt the proper function of the buttons? And based off of one poor 500x300 rendering, you're going to assume that the transparency of the material must indicate hard plastic? What if it's a hybrid of the two materials? What if it's just a camera angel, or the result of photo editing/rendering? With only the information at hand, there isn't enough evidence to support either one of our arguments.

Seriously buddy, you are just wasting my time with these what if scenarios. WHAT IF THE CASE IS MADE OF SUGAR? DOES THAT HELP MY ARGUMENT? IS THAT MORE BELIEVABLE?

I love how now you are using my 500x300 retort! LMAO!

Multiple people in this thread who haven't even read the argument can also see clear as day that it's hard plastic. Please stop wasting my time.