I'm always amazed how eager some people are to defend certain shortcomings of Apple's products. Yes, we all know iOS is more polished than Android right now and thus 512MB go a longer way, but guess what - 1GB would make the "user experience" you never tire of acclaiming even smoother (less hiccups, less crashes, less forced reloads in Safari...)
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iPhone 4S only has 512MB of RAM
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And you do know that Android AND Windows are made up of MULTIPLE devices being sold by MULTIPLE companies right?
Go look at the numbers for each PHONE. The iPhone continues to be the top selling phone out there.
But I don't see your point. If you're attributing specs to marketshare then you're either missing some key bits of knowledge of how consumers work, in the tech industry, or...?
But what's your point?
More RAM is always better, how anyone can deny that is beyond me.
Still await the iFixit teardown though for confirmation.
Still await the iFixit teardown though for confirmation.
We get one of these threads after... every single Apple product launch- EVER. And in the end, it makes no difference. The hardware runs ultra-smoothy, while feeling faster than anything else on the market and does what it's supposed to do perfectly. There was the same bitching about every iPhone and iPad incarnation. How did that work out?
You people never, ever learn. Which is surprising, considering how closely you've followed Apple and their products/philosophy.
You people never, ever learn. Which is surprising, considering how closely you've followed Apple and their products/philosophy.
It's not the end of the world, but it would have been a welcome internal upgrade. Especially since there was no design upgrade. The phone will scream though, like it always has.
Except the first iPad was unusable for more complex apps, and even now there's one high profile game that only runs on the iPad 2 because the iPad 1 with its 256 MB RAM just doesn't cut it (Machinarium).
With my iPad 1, every single tab in Safari always had to be reloaded. Safari outright crashed multiple times a day, e. g. on complex sites, or if I had too many tabs open... Complex, data rich apps like Evernote also crashed at least once a day. RAM was the one reason I sold my iPad 1 and got a 2, and even on the new one Safari often has to reload tabs. And by the way, the very same things were driving me mad on the iPhone 3GS.
RAM, or lack thereof, is a real issue in some Apple devices.
True more Ram is better, but why the disappointment if iOS5 runs smoothly already on the 4? I have 16gb of Ram in my desktop, should I be mad that I don't have 32gb?
Considering that iFixit will get their hands on one right Friday and a jailbreak won't be available until who knows when, I think I'll go with iFixit.
The only reason Machinarium only supports the iPad 2 is because they ported it using the garbage that is Adobe Air.
Depends what work you do with your desktop. Having RAM in your desktop is a completely different argument to having RAM in a smartphone.
This is my opinion:
If it has 512 mb ram that means the 4s will use more ram than the ip4 because it's running Siri in the background(and who knows, other stuff too that's only in 4s). This 4s will be slower in some cases where there are too many apps open, jailbreaking etc.
I don't think it has the same amount of ram, it doesn't make sense to me.
iPad 1 had 256 mb , and now the iPad 2 has 512mb , makes sense.
If it has 512 mb ram that means the 4s will use more ram than the ip4 because it's running Siri in the background(and who knows, other stuff too that's only in 4s). This 4s will be slower in some cases where there are too many apps open, jailbreaking etc.
I don't think it has the same amount of ram, it doesn't make sense to me.
iPad 1 had 256 mb , and now the iPad 2 has 512mb , makes sense.
Fair enough. Still, the lack of RAM in the iPad 1 was a daily annoyance for me. I don't necessarily want to play Machinarium, but I want to browse the web and use Evernote without constant crashes and reloads, and I only got that user experience with the iPad 2.
It's not necessarily fail. I still think the 4S is great with 512MB Ram.
But I can understand if someone will want 1GB ram. Since almost every high-end smartphone available today have 1GB ram, why can't the 4S have 1GB ram?
If iOS can deliver a better experience with less RAM than Android, then with same amount of RAM will make it even more awesome, more versatility, more convenient.
I will take my iPad 2 as an example.
With 200-250MB (the rest taken by OS system) RAM left Safari reload page too often, just open 4-5 medium to heavy page then it will start reload all pages. If I remember correctly, I never can open all 9 pages(max) without get Safari reload pages.
Sometime it just crash or even bogging down the system. You will need open the multitask bar and close it.
Other app also can easily consume that 200MB memory, leave all the apps in background lost it state, not just re-open slower.
Sorry for my english, it's not my native language
That's assuming you know the jailbreak will take long. We have had many instances when the jailbreak comes out the same day.
This is disappointing to say the least, and a bad move. The logical thing would have been to include 1 GB of RAM. I understand that Apple doesn't release specs to consumers, and that it will still be faster thanks to A5, but this is silly given today's standards.
Also, the article is right about Siri - if it's confirmed that iPhone 4S only has 512 MB of RAM, there really is no reason for Siri to be kept off the iPad 2, and even, to an extent, the iPhone 4. I can forgive Apple for wanting to keep it off iPhone 4 to differentiate 4S as a new device, but as an iPad 2 owner, this seems wrong.
Anyway, enough with the ranting. Thanks for posting the article, OP.
Also, the article is right about Siri - if it's confirmed that iPhone 4S only has 512 MB of RAM, there really is no reason for Siri to be kept off the iPad 2, and even, to an extent, the iPhone 4. I can forgive Apple for wanting to keep it off iPhone 4 to differentiate 4S as a new device, but as an iPad 2 owner, this seems wrong.
Anyway, enough with the ranting. Thanks for posting the article, OP.
I didn't say the screen on the iphone was the motivation. It's about being able to record 1080p video. Apple is trying to replace pocket camcorders and point and shoot cameras. The iPad is too large to be a reasonable replacement for either, and I don't imagine too many fantasize about being able to use a 10 inch tablet to record 1080p video.
There's nothing, nor any app\game I've seen that justifies the need for 1gb at the moment. Even when I jailbreak and use backgrounder, there's only minor lag if any.
That was my point in the post you quoted. The mainstream consumer will not need even more than 8gb on their system at the moment. Same with the iPhone. Sure more is better, but why complain if iOS still runs smoothly? Because some Android phones have more ram?
I wasn't complaining that the iPhone has 512MB of RAM. I have indeed always found iOS to run very smoothly on my iPhone 4. I think you've taken my original post way out of context. I was just very simply pointing out that more RAM is always better and no one can deny that.
Sure there is no app that justifies 1GB of RAM at the moment but isn't that why Apple refreshes the hardware every year? To give developers the scope to do more with their apps to utilize better hardware?
No you took it the wrong way. I was replying to your original post in general terms of everyone complaining, not towards you.
I do agree with the last comment, but the cpu & gpu upgrade seems good enough for the way iOS manages things at the moment. I also can't imagine what app\game would require that much yet.