There's one Apple retail store where I live (Lyon, France) and I never have waited in line on any Apple launch day. I really want to buy this thing first thing in the morning on the 14th, but I wonder if in this city, there actually would be lines.
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There's one Apple retail store where I live (Lyon, France) and I never have waited in line on any Apple launch day. I really want to buy this thing first thing in the morning on the 14th, but I wonder if in this city, there actually would be lines.
Joking aside, I think that's the future. They can't make the phones smaller due to physical input becoming unnecessarily hard, unless voice control really takes off and you can do everything with voice, without the need of looking at the screen.
So if Siri becomes more advanced soon enough, then an iPhone nano would make sense.
Perhaps. But it just feels like there is a naming convention but that it's a strange and obtuse one that dosn't add up.
The S clearly stands for a design which has the same case but new insides. But then what does the 4 stand for? If the four means fourth then the 3GS means 3 and the 4S means 5. If it doesn't then what does 4 mean?!
... you know what, I think I have it. Wasn't the retina display supposed to have 4 times the number of pixles? And since the biggest single upgrade between the 3GS and the 4 is the retina display, maybe the 4 stands for that but they forgot to tell us!
I'm somewhat dissapointed given the cost. I've used Android phones and While I prefer IOS , I have to admit the new Galaxy II has pretty much the same features ad the 4s and I can get that for betwen $99-$149 with a 2yr contract. Thats for the 16meg phone but I can then add a 32gb card to it.
But then you have to run Android...a far cry from iOS.
One thing's been killing me...why couldn't Apple have added a second speaker to the 4s? Would that have really been so hard?
As I explained - the 2G and 3G were representative of the network ability, the 3GS was an updated iPhone 3G.
When it came to creating a new model since the IP4 was the 4th iPhone to be released Apple clearly just followed the numbering of the previous iPhone from 3 to 4 even though the numbering of 3G & 3GS did not mean 3rd iPhone.
The 4S is inside the same chassis as the 4 thus retaining the same general number, and its still the 4th generation iPhone because of the naming convention by Apple. It can be a new updated model but still be classed as a 4th Gen as it still looks largely identicle.
It is extremely sensical.
Now we know why no one found the new iPhone at the bar
Someone sold the iPhone 4s found in a bar for 300 bucks on Craigslist...perhaps they didn't realize it was a new phone.
Someone sold the iPhone 4s found in a bar for 300 bucks on Craigslist...perhaps they didn't realize it was a new phone.
There's no naming convention, simply because each phone has been named after a different trait. 4 was named because it was the 4th one. 3G was named because it supported 3G network speeds. 3GS was named because it was a faster version of 3G. So far each of those phones have been named differently.
And yes so far each S's retained the case.
But the logic here is internally contradictory.
You're arguing that the 4S is still the 4th generation because it looks the same as the 4. Therefore, following your logic, the 3GS is still the second generation iPhone because it looks the same as the 3G.
If that is the case then the 4 should have been called the 3.
The iPhone 4 name only makes sense if the 3G = 2 and the 3GS = 3. If the 3GS = 3 then the 4S = 5. So the next iPhone would have to be called 6. This is undeniably logic.
Except one thing. It's the 5th generation iPhone. If you claim that 4S is the 4th generation, that means generation is not defined the way iPod generations are defined when it comes to phones. If enough changes are needed to jump a generation, then 3G wasn't the second generation either.
No they haven't - firstly they can call it whatever they like just like the XBOX went from XBOX to XBOX 360 - I mean what happened to the other 359?
Secondly it makes sense - If you look at the trend - when a 'particular' iPhone retains the same chassis and looks the same it holds the same generation number (why is that so hard to understand?)
The 3G / 3GS fell into a trap because the naming was due to the network capability, therefore they named the iPhone 4 as 4 comes after 3 in numeracy and also because it was the 4th iPhone ever released.
Very easy to understand and the next iPhone will 100% be called the iPhone 5 if it is a completely re-designed model.
Read above it answers this also.
I want an unlocked iPhone, but I sure haven't heard anything about it being sold unlocked in the US -- remember they started selling the iPhone 4 unlocked here a full year after its initial release -- I would not be surprised if they wait until it is being sold everywhere else first before offering it unlocked here to prevent grey market smuggling.
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For a 2yr contract, with the amount of money smartphone plans cost monthly, a relatively small difference in cost is not enough to make me buy a phone I don't want.
I'm going to stick with a 32 gb model, with iCloud I don't really see the need to go all the way to 64 (because a lot of storage was just taken up by songs I *might* want to play).
No it doesn't. 3G retained the same chassis as 1st gen iPhone. So did 3GS more or less. So according to that, the first 3 iPhones were the 1st generation. The only major chassis change came in iPhone 4.
Hold on a second. They named it because 4 was the 4th one, or 4 comes after 3 in 3GS? What if the network technology was called 5G, and the second iPhone was 5G, and third was 5GS, then would the 4th one be 6 or 4? Decide.
Which would not make any sense.
Hm...
Not for me - I was able to upgrade last year just after launch but this time they indicated that I am eligible for subsidized pricing not now, but rather on December 1st.
And I've been an AT&T customer over five years now as part of my workplace who requires us all in my group (I.T.) to use the same cellular provider to simplify accounting procedures.
Not for me - I was able to upgrade last year just after launch but this time they indicated that I am eligible for subsidized pricing not now, but rather on December 1st.
And I've been an AT&T customer over five years now as part of my workplace who requires us all in my group (I.T.) to use the same cellular provider to simplify accounting procedures.
What I have a hard time understanding is why Sprint would pay $20BILL USD for the iPhone, and still continue to advertise the Galaxy S 2 on their home page. You would think, that for a company wiling to lose itself over a single device like the iPhone they would be pushing it a little harder than they are. I just noticed, none of the 3 US carriers seem to be advertising the 4S on their home pages. Interesting.
No it doesn't.
Look - the iPhone 4 can only be the iPhone 4 if the prior three were the iPhone 1, 2 and 3. Otherwise the iPhone 4 cannot be called the iPhone 4 in any universe where logic makes sense.
The above is utterly irrefutable logic. Whatever names they were sold under the generational sequence only makes sense this way. You cannot have a fourth generational device without 3 prior generations. QED.
If the iPhone 3GS is the third generation device (which for the above to work it has to be) then the iPhone 4S is the iPhone 5. There is no way that this cannot be true without the naming convention that we are seeing emerge falling apart.
So either calling the iPhone 4 the iPhone 4 was illogical or calling the iPhone 4S the iPhone 4S is illogical. The two cannot both be correct. Thus the naming convention does not make sense.
Wait what ? What happened to the 3rd generation of phones then ?
iPhone
iPhone 3G/3GS
iPhone 4/4S
That's only 3 generations by your own count. How can the iPhone 4/4S be the "4th generation" and be sensical ? Was the original iPhone so great it spanned 2 generations on its own ?
Anyway, still getting the phone.
No, they are both logical in their own because there never was a naming convention.
For your argument to be true, Apple either had to name each of their Phones according to generation, in which case naming this one 4S would be breaking the tradition, or Apple had to name each of their phones according to some fixed characteristic, which is not equal to generation, in which case naming the 4th one iPhone 4 would be breaking the tradition.
But since Apple did neither, they never created a tradition/convention for naming. As long as each name made sense on its own, it worked.
There's a last hope in that the next one is 6 or drops the generational naming, making the iPhone 4 the only anomaly.
Wait what ? What happened to the 3rd generation of phones then ?
iPhone
iPhone 3G/3GS
iPhone 4/4S
That's only 3 generations by your own count. How can the iPhone 4/4S be the "4th generation" and be sensical ? Was the original iPhone so great it spanned 2 generations on its own ?
Anyway, still getting the phone.
Actually, the chassis of the first 3 phones is almost identical, so they all had to be 1st gen with that "logic"
Actually, the chassis of the first 3 phones is almost identical, so they all had to be 1st gen with that "logic"
So the iPhone 4 is actually the iPhone 2
Even moar confusing now!
No really, it all hinges on the next model now. All bets are off. It absolutely can't be the iPhone 5.