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Wow, macrumors is the only community still being positive about this 4s crap, 18 months and they have put in a new chip new lens and "siri" come on people wake up!
Wow, macrumors is the only community still being positive about this 4s crap, 18 months and they have put in a new chip new lens and "siri" come on people wake up!
So where's that guy who kept posting here on MacRumors that there was no way Apple would call their next iPhone the 4S because it would upset the naming scheme? Ahahahahahhahahaha
Right here. Still say it upsets the naming scheme and makes no sense. Is the iPhone 4 the 3rd iPhone now ? Is the iPhone 4S not the 5th while the 3GS was still the 3rd ? Will the next one be 4GS or 6 or 5 ? All bets are off now, the naming scheme doesn't make sense anymore.
Still buying the phone. I was expecting this phone all along. An iPhone 4 case with upgraded internals. I called it long ago that I wasn't expecting more (well, aside from them using iPhone 5 and not iPhone 4S).
If they had called it iPhone 5, a lot of the "negative" would have went away. It's the name that's drawing out the bad. Because overall, it really is a next generation device.
What the Hell ar you talking about?
Ip4S has a brand new Anntaena system which switches to receive and send, no other (including your stupid SGS2) has this. its a world phone again ground breaking no other phone (including your stupid SGS2) has this. if wanted to take the GSM SGS2 to work in a CDMA area i need to buy a whole new CDMA SGS2
and you really that ignorant and say Siri is the Google Voice thing
all i have to say is can your SGS2 book me a meeting, in calenders, tell the weather, remind me things, call people and messeage people without pressing the call button/send button
seriously if your going to attack the Ip4S bring some credible eveidence
Im not sure exactly how groundbreaking this actually is. Dual (GSM/CDMA) phones have been made for several years, e.g. by Samsung (which i only used as an example because you did). Also, while i am sure that Apple has able engineers, i am somewhat skeptic when it comes to their ability to (really) innovate in this particular space in which they have no real legacy (such transitions are extremely hard, and generally take very long time). But, like i said, i am not sure, and i could be wrong. If so, however, there must be something more to it than just being able to support GSM and CDMA. That, while being a nice addition, is not groundbreaking it all.
For example, Google gave me this:
The world's first Windows CE smartphone that supports dual networks, CoolPAD 728, is now available. Late in December [of 2005], the cellular provider China Unicom purchased the 150,000 units of the smartphone. The CECT Coolpad 728 is designed to be compatible with five frequency bands on the CDMA and GSM networks including the CDMA 800MHz, CDMA 1900MHz, GSM 900MHz, GSM 1800MHz and GSM 1900MHz.
"If they had called it iPhone 5, a lot of the "negative" would have went away. It's the name that's drawing out the bad. Because overall, it really is a next generation device"
I disagree, I agree its still a nice device but its a "catch up" device, most phones record in 1080p have voice assistants and 8mp cameras. Btw I hate android, i think the main reason people are annoyed is because they have waited 18 Months and this is all apple come up with.
I disagree, I agree its still a nice device but its a "catch up" device, most phones record in 1080p have voice assistants and 8mp cameras. Btw I hate android, i think the main reason people are annoyed is because they have waited 18 Months and this is all apple come up with.
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I'm kinda disappointed by that somewhat lackluster "upgrade". Especially at starting prices of 629 (831,35$) for the 16gb version over here. Since i just get a brand new iPhone 4 for no cost at all (service replacement after 13 months of use) i guess i just keep that for some time and check out those android phones due for release soon.
Happy with the update.
Love how apple just sticks to it's agenda through thick and thin.
Does anyone think that they would be influenced by Google or Samsung!!
The screen size would have been agonized over by Jonny I've and his team and there's would be passionate arguments as to why not to go bigger for the sake of it.
yes Sam sung etc look ok but that android looks like a dog.
No the next big update will be revolutionary not a me too, so expect screens on both sides or something radical like that.
Also so pleased they didn't include a Facebook integration.
Love how apple just sticks to it's agenda through thick and thin.
Does anyone think that they would be influenced by Google or Samsung!!
The screen size would have been agonized over by Jonny I've and his team and there's would be passionate arguments as to why not to go bigger for the sake of it.
yes Sam sung etc look ok but that android looks like a dog.
No the next big update will be revolutionary not a me too, so expect screens on both sides or something radical like that.
Also so pleased they didn't include a Facebook integration.
Hmm, not sure if I even want 1080p as the storage space would be massive...though 64GB is appealing, maybe I'll go from 4 to 4S, if I get around to it. My first priority is to pay off the thunderbolt display I just bought and I would like to get a 512GB SSD for my Mac as well...
Btw, would it be easier walking in and picking up a 64 gig model? It seems like demand would be less for that model?
Btw, would it be easier walking in and picking up a 64 gig model? It seems like demand would be less for that model?
The naming scheme doesn't make sense because you're making it complicated. iPhone 4S makes total sense. Why call it iPhone 5 when the externals haven't been touched at all? Previous owners of the 3GS knew it was an updated 3G. Apple only took advantage of the 3G name because it was the buzz word for mobile tech then and made it stand out from the original iPhone which was 2G only. You're just getting fuzzed up because it doesn't follow the edition version of the iPhone anymore. In marketing terms, the 4S does make complete sense and doesn't confuse the issue.
I personally disagree. Using the iP5 name would have indicated a totally new device. New number, new external design, new internals, new major features.
If people think Apple have wasted their time in the last 18 months; people won't say that when the new iP5 comes out next Spring (with the iPad 3 around April time) and 2 years hard work will push smart-phones out another level again. That's my next bet
.Why fix up a phone that ain't broken and still sells like hotcakes?
Each naming does make sense. It just does not result to a consistent naming scheme. But it never did.
That being said, they can't name their next one iPhone 5. They either have to name it iPhone 6 or iPhone LTE or iPhone X after some functionality X.
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I know of 10 plus people getting one and the list seems to be growing every day.
My "3GS" has voice assistant too.
Voice Control != Siri. Siri is more than that obviously. Sure it's not Star Trek level "Computer, Tea Earl Grey Hot", but it's more than "Play Song", "Call Mother" that we've had for years (my older Sony Ericsson had this stuff).
Yes, it's a catch up device. But they've caught up nicely. They are still kind of display resolution (until Samsung ships out the SGS II HD and it seems the Nexus Prime), the A5 and GPU they use are still the fastest embedded SoC out there (remains to be seen if we see Tegra 3 before Q4), so all in all, they have released a very decent and competitive phone for a Q3 11 release.
Again, never expected more.
I still think a lot of the negative attitude towards this release is all in the name. iPhone 4S just doesn't make sense and seems to scream "this is last year's model now with fuzzy dices!"
I haven't read the entire thread, but it's interesting that some people are actually calling this a downgrade. It may not have all the bells and whistles they were hoping for (LTE, NFC, larger screen, different shape), but it's clearly a step ahead of the iPhone 4 and earlier versions.
As a 3GS owner, I'm intrigued by the 4S, especially Siri. If I can use it in my car over Bluetooth, Siri alone will make upgrading worthwhile.
As a 3GS owner, I'm intrigued by the 4S, especially Siri. If I can use it in my car over Bluetooth, Siri alone will make upgrading worthwhile.
And what will they call the next one ? iPhone 6 ? 4GS ? 5 (which would be even weirder, since you seem to say they are going on case redesigns Original -> 3G/3GS -> 4/4S) ?
Using iPhone 5 would have meant this was the 5th iPhone, which it is. iPhone -> iPhone 3G -> iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4 -> iPhone 4S. There you go, 5 models.
If people think Apple have wasted their time in the last 18 months; people won't say that when the new iP5 comes out next Spring (with the iPad 3 around April time) and 2 years hard work will push smart-phones out another level again. That's my next bet
Wait, now you're saying the next iPhone will be iPhone 5 ? See how this doesn't make sense anymore ? Which of the 5 models we've had up to now doesn't count as a model so that the iPhone 4 is the 4th and the iPhone 5 will be the 5th ? Is the iPhone 4S only the 4.5th model ? Do we not count the 3GS ?
Doesn't. Make. Sense.
Sorry, I'm a logical person and I'm a bit ADHD about this stuff.
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If they do, I'm going to enjoy seeing people justify that.
I will be upgrading as I'm still using a launch day 3GS (which is in good shape - battery life if anything is better than when it was new). My main concern is the antenna being properly sorted. I had to return a launch day iPhone 4 after a few days because of poor cellphone performance at work, which I had never had with previous iPhones, or any other phones come to that. I guess time will tell if it really is fixed.
Yes, they could have named it iPhone 5. But they also could have named it iPhone 4S. Both did make sense equally.
If Apple named each of their iPhone so far after the generation, then yes only iPhone 5 would have made sense. But they didn't. The 2nd iPhone was named 3G not 2. The third iPhone was named 3GS, not 3. Only the 4th iPhone was named so far after its generation. So there's no reason to expect Apple to start naming each of their iPhones after the generation from now on, just because they did it once. And quite frankly, it would be extremely boring after a while. An iPhone 13?
The iPhone naming scheme jumped the shark with the iPhone 4 after the 3G was named for the network speed. But OK, but why does the naming scheme need to make sense? It's just a marketing moniker after all. Is it all that relevant to consumers that the iPhone 3G was the 2nd iPhone or that the 3GS was the 3rd? It's the feature set they are buying after all.
Monikers of other mid to high end consumer goods from manufacturers like Nikon, Mercedes, Samsung, etc. are often out of sync with the model names/numbers of their predecessors. But consumers are aware of the current model names, and the previous ones. That is what matters most.
Personally I think the 4S moniker is much more appropriate to the phone announced than if it had been named the 5. The 4S is in s/w terms more of a point update than a major upgrade. It's a solid update, but it's not distinguished in the way the 3G was to the original iPhone or the 4 was to the 3GS.
Also, while the naming scheme doesn't follow along generation lines it does seem to follow along feature set lines. The 3GS was a speed bumped 3, hence the S. Same goes for the 4S.
You're forgetting iPad -> iPad 2
The 3G/3GS was understandable. From a marketing stand point, releasing the iPhone 3 after the iPhone 3G makes no sense. "Where's the G at ? I don't want no phone without no G".
They didn't have that issue with the iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5. The name 4S gives it a negative connotation, makes it sound like it was less of an upgrade than it actually was.
Anyway, this would all go away if they would simply say "iPhone". It is a "MacBook Air" after all, not a "MacBook Air 5", same for iPod Touch, iPod Nano.
There's a lot of praise (I'm not singling you out) for a function that no one here has been able to try.
It may be faster, easier, and more convenient.
It may also be slower, harder, and error prone.
We'll see when it's used, by ordinary consumers, in real settings.
The 3GS was a "speed bumped" 2.
(Actually, the 3GS was much more than that. The 3GS was a whole new phone in its own right. The 3G was a 3G chip and a new plastic back. In all else, it was the original iPhone. The 3GS had quite the long feature list of upgrades/new features).
Again, just my logical mindset setting in. The 3G -> 3GS made sense in that 3G -> 3 didn't. 4 -> 4S doesn't. We'll see what they do next. If they use 5, now for sure you can't say the naming scheme is logical anymore, because the iPhone 5 is now the 6th model ?
I'm wide awake and pretty psyched about the 4s. I would of like a larger screen but am happy keeping the same form factor as I feel the physical size is good. I know people keep playing down the specs but this phone is a greater jump than from 3gs to i4.
Let me ask you this..... if they had placed the same guts in a phone with a larger screen would it of still been a dissapointment?
I thought they'd call it the iPhone 5, too, but "4S" didn't surprise or disappoint me much. If they'd named it the iPhone 5, some people here would be complaining that it doesn't have enough changes to warrant an increment in the model #. What's important is how well the 4S will sell (assuming Samsung's lawsuits don't hinder things.)
Part of the problem is Apple's previous June/July release schedule for iPhones. When they missed this year, expectations increased, perhaps unrealistically. It's similar to what used to happen when Steve Jobs presented keynotes at Macworld Expo each January, so everyone expected major announcements. Apple might be better off without a regular iPhone schedule.