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People seem hung up in the name more than anything else.

This latest rumour hints at a new A5 chip, 8mp Cam and possible larger screen and other improvements. That's quite an upgrade I would say - and if it where in association with an iPhone 5 rather than 4s I don't think there would be so many complaints here.


Even if that is all it has new...They will still call it the Iphone 5...why now use that name when you got the IOS being called IOS 5?
 
Aside from the fanboys Apple sells so many phones because of the "cool" factor, Apple has the cool factor at the moment in the youth and student market but the youth are fickle and if something more cool came along then they would jump ship, look how everyone young used MySpace and then Facebook came along with the cool factor and everyone jumped ship.

Apple fanboys would buy a dog turd with an Apple logo on but Apple can't rely on goodwill of fanboys they have to appeal to the young cool trendy people and simply treading water will not be what they want, I can see lots jumping ship to Galaxy if Apple stand still design wise and features wise.
I presume you have done some extensive research on this subject?

Apple is "cool" because they sell premium products with qood quality (hardware and software). Mercedes Benz and BMW are cool because their cars looks impressive and they drive very well. Good premium products will ALWAYS be cool, no matter what segment you're looking at.
 
Apple has all y'all fooled...There will be two iPhones..


A Iphone 5 (A5 chip with 32Gb or 64 GB storage) and Iphone 4s (A4 chip with 16 Gb storage). Plus a new Itouch 5 with the A5 chip with 16/32/64 gb of storage. Plus a new Apple TV 3 with the A5 chip and 1080P output with 16 gb of storage.

You are gonna see Nuance integration in IOS5 (mostly with the Iphone 5)

You are gonna see Apps on Apple TV

You also gonna see a new Ipod Nano running IOS 5.

You gonna see iCloud

You gonna see iTunes Music Match

You even gonna see Steve Jobs for just a little bit...just to show you he is still alive.

Don't know why, but I love this post. Even though Harman/Kardon is better than Onkyo. ;)
 
We can skip this "naming" dilemma right now.

Call the 4S the iPhone ME, and the Next-gen to be iPhone NT, as IOS is transitioned into the cloud, followed by iPhone XP, Vista, and then reverting back to the old numbering system with the iPhone 7. This year will be the only year with 2 phones, but future versions will come in Home and Professional flavors.
 
4s ?

I hope not, I have been waiting for about two years for an iphone, verizon to get it them, and for the iphone 5 to come out. No way am I going get something called the 4S, I would think there are lots of folks waiting for the 5 not some watered down version. If Cook wants to make a good first impression he better come up with something more then the iphone 4S
 
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Seriously - it will NOT be iPhone 4s. Stop worrying.

I said months ago that Apple would not release a 4s when ios5 is coming out. They wont!

It will be the iPhone 5
 
If they're not going to increase the maximum storage to at least 64 GB they may as well call it the 4S.

Who knows—but the 3GS had a great run, and kept a similar name (and shape) as the 3G.

I think there will be no new iPhone shape next month—but more important than the shape AND the name is simply: is it faster and improved? The iPhone 4 is already the best all-around smartphone you can buy, for nearly every buyer’s needs--so a step up from that, by any name, sounds good to me!

Apple would have seriously miscalculated the market if they think they can get away with trivial improvements after 15 months, and delay a new substantial upgrade to greater than 24 months.

They will get hit by their shareholders and sales.

And don’t say it’s all about the OS.; We know that 50% of iPhone users don’t update the iOS. Yes new phone than ship with iOS5 may do so over the air, but lots and lots of older iPhone owners will change brands between now and next year, if they feel they are being left behind.
 
Apple has all y'all fooled...There will be two iPhones..


A Iphone 5 (A5 chip with 32Gb or 64 GB storage) and Iphone 4s (A4 chip with 16 Gb storage). Plus a new Itouch 5 with the A5 chip with 16/32/64 gb of storage. Plus a new Apple TV 3 with the A5 chip and 1080P output with 16 gb of storage.

You are gonna see Nuance integration in IOS5 (mostly with the Iphone 5)

You are gonna see Apps on Apple TV

You also gonna see a new Ipod Nano running IOS 5.

You gonna see iCloud

You gonna see iTunes Music Match

You even gonna see Steve Jobs for just a little bit...just to show you he is still alive.

That would be a helluva coming out party for new CEO Cook. Plus you forgot to mention adding new Chinese carriers + iPhone model for prepaid calling plans.
 
That would compensate for our waiting... Would be nice for Tim to present as well ;)


Oh Tim is gonna speak...he has too...Steve will just be there to show everybody that he is alive and doing well.

Tim is the man now.

Iphone 5
Iphone 4s


They don't wait 15 to 18 months just to release the same looking phone and call it an Iphone 5...come on now people get real. LOL!

They keeping this a secret so we call all be wowed!
 
I presume you have done some extensive research on this subject?

Apple is "cool" because they sell premium products with qood quality (hardware and software). Mercedes Benz and BMW are cool because their cars looks impressive and they drive very well. Good premium products will ALWAYS be cool, no matter what segment you're looking at.

Yes and no, when Steve bought out the iPhone he anticipated a 10% share of the market, he knows his own company more than anyone so he thought that his good premium product would get a 10% share, then it became a TRENDY product and got a 50% or more share, millions have jumped aboard the Apple bandwagon in terms of the iPhone and they can't all be because it is a premium product, Steve didn't anticipate how "cool" the iPhone would be with trendy students and college kids when he made his 10% prediction.
 
iTea leaves indicate...

Come on guys

A5
iOS 5
iPhone 5

that easy

Yes! And there are other signs and portents too:

A5
iOS 5
iPhone 5
Months overdue: 5
# of rumors in millions: 5
Projected Apple stock in hundreds: 5
The iJohnny Unit that claims to be alive: 5
;)
 
It is cheap. Plastic, I believe. What are phones are made of only metal and glass?

Are you suggesting that every iPhone prior to the iPhone 4 was cheap?

ZING!!!

Attention iPhone owners: There are other great phones in existence aside from your iPhone 4. And (you might want to sit down for this one), in fact, there are phones in existence that are better than your iPhone 4. And if you don't believe that, it's because you are entitled to your own opinion. Just like those of us who favor other phones over the iPhone are entitled to our own opinion.

PS - How does your iPhone 4 look with that requisite case? Ever dropped it? How did that work out? If you haven't dropped it, aren't you terrified of what will happen to that glass if you do? I know it would scare the hell out of me.
 
Oh Tim is gonna speak...he has too...Steve will just be there to show everybody that he is alive and doing well.

Tim is the man now.

Iphone 5
Iphone 4s


They don't wait 15 to 18 months just to release the same looking phone and call it an Iphone 5...come on now people get real. LOL!

They keeping this a secret so we call all be wowed!

There is as much chance of Tim Cook doing the keynote for iPhone as there is Ozzy Osbourne being voted world's sexiest man, it is simply not going to happen, have you ever heard Tim Cook speak publicly ? best cure for insomnia there is, far better than any drug, Apple simply won't do that, if Steve ain't fit then Phil Schiller will do the keynote, they won't dare put Cook up out there, the audience would fall asleep.
 
Exactly, which is why I am certain that Steve is going to do the keynote and that the extended refresh time this time may even be because they are waiting for Steve to finish a course of chemo or whatever to be fit to launch the iPhone 5

Steve doing the keynote will sell millions more iPhone's than Cook doing it, Apple can afford to wait

meh... i think cook and others can make a comparable product unveiling

usually steve has help with the iOS and other sections of the keynote... steve usually just does the iphone/ipod/ipad

as long as the PPT slides are on point and the product is impressive, the product will sell itself..
 
I bet most people are going to be disappointed with the new iPhone when it turns out to be a spec bump iPhone4. My wife and I each have a 3GS and we skipped the iPhone4 and planned to get the iPhone 5 in June/July. Apple didn't ship anything so we've had to wait to see what was going to happen. I bet it's going to turn out we could have bought an iPhone 4 over a year ago and had basically the same phone as we'll get next month. :(
I just don't see why they would put if off several months just for a spec bump other than the iPhone4 continues to sell well so why not leave it on the market.
 
haha if this is correct, Samsung has not to take Apple to court! Galaxy S2 will be a lot better than the iPhone 4s/5 !! Apple will lose so hard against the competition!! Unfortunately true STORY guys ! :mad:
 
Somebody should make a safari extension that blocks any MacRumors articles with the word "analyst" in them.
 
meh... i think cook and others can make a comparable product unveiling

usually steve has help with the iOS and other sections of the keynote... steve usually just does the iphone/ipod/ipad

as long as the PPT slides are on point and the product is impressive, the product will sell itself..

Cook despite his social awkwardness will be there but I just see him saying a few words pre keynote before handing over to a decent orator, whether that will be Steve or Phil only time will tell I guess, hopefully Steve
 
Bull.

It'll be called iPhone 5. Can we stop with all this 4S crap!?

To be perfectly honest I wish they'd stop adding digits after stuff and just call it iPhone.

Lol they can't, though. Otherwise it'd be like...

Tech Support: Which version of the iPhone do you have?

Customer: Erm... you know, the one that came after the last version... which was three versions removed from the first. I mean four. I'm not sure... it's shiny...
 
I predicted there will be only one Iphone which is 4S.
I think Iphone 5 looking device might be new ipod.

there is no reason to apple release two different iphone and I don't remember they ever release two devices together (refresh and redesign items).

those financial analysts try to push apple stock higher then make quick profit.
it was over $420 yesterday then come back to $412 today.

nice try:mad:
 
If it is not a huge change, then its disappointing how long its taken for it to be released.
 
IOS5 was such a major announcement that it seems to me that the software is driving the iPhone this time. all of the internal changes, especially the upgraded processor make the new phone better able to make use of the software enhancements. can't deny that the 3GS was a major upgrade to the 3G. the speed alone was worth the price of a new phone. personally a larger screen and 64gb capacity would be about the only significant changes i'd really care about. but with a new camera, the faster processor, and essentially making all the new phones world phones, actually makes for a very nice upgrade.

when you think of the iPad, the air, the pro, the design changes have been minimal EXCEPT inside.

i think we've had a longer wait for this phone simply because IOS5 wasn't ready. and they rally wanted the new iPhone and the new software to be available at the same time. otherwise, the new phone whatever it is could have easily come out during the regular june/july timeframe. is it just coincidental that gold master versions of the software are just now surfacing. to me this is just having the cake and icing ready at the same time.
 
Even if that is all it has new...They will still call it the Iphone 5...why now use that name when you got the IOS being called IOS 5?

Um. Well since even the original iPhone will be capable of running iOS 5, that logic doesn't hold up very well.

They called the 2nd-gen iPhone the 3G... and the 3rd-gen the 3GS... you do the math :/
 
Are you suggesting that every iPhone prior to the iPhone 4 was cheap?

ZING!!!

Attention iPhone owners: There are other great phones in existence aside from your iPhone 4. And (you might want to sit down for this one), in fact, there are phones in existence that are better than your iPhone 4. And if you don't believe that, it's because you are entitled to your own opinion. Just like those of us who favor other phones over the iPhone are entitled to our own opinion.

PS - How does your iPhone 4 look with that requisite case? Ever dropped it? How did that work out? If you haven't dropped it, aren't you terrified of what will happen to that glass if you do? I know it would scare the hell out of me.

"ZING" yourself. Yeah, the older iPhone's definitely WERE cheaper build (plastic, somewhat "toyish" looking")

Other phones being "better" as you say... is just your opinion. Nothing else comes close to iOS.. and no other phone is built close to the iPhone 4.

As far as dropping and all that... all phones can break when dropped. I can replace the back for FREE or at most... $30.

If you don't like iOS/iPhones, that's fine... we have our own opinions... but others just don't compare to me.
 
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