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as long as the PPT slides are on point and the product is impressive, the product will sell itself..

If that's true, I wouldn't expect them to introduce anything more than an iPhone 4S.

Things must be bad at Apple if they're using PowerPoint at a Keynote event...
 
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I think every iphone hawk on this forum is in a better position to speculate on the kind of phones Apple is likely to introduce over the next few weeks than this so called analyst.
 
Why would Apple push back the release by 6 months and then only release a spec bump? Makes no sense...
 
Maybe Apple was able to keep this design a secret!

I hope I will be surprised!

Case designs seem to be right. Look at the iPad 2.
Fingers crossed!
 
It'll be called iPhone 5. Can we stop with all this 4S crap!?
"4S" denotes that it's essentially an iPhone 4 with a faster processor and some minor other improvements. "5" would denote a complete form factor overhaul. What's "crap" about that? Surely you see the needed to call the phone something different so people can, you know, have an intelligent discussion about it.

To be perfectly honest I wish they'd stop adding digits after stuff and just call it iPhone.
How would this work? Right now, Apple sells two phones,... the premiere iPhone 4 and the iPhone 3GS. If they just called them "iPhones", you'd have to say "I want to buy the $199 iPhone" or "should I get the $49 iPhone?"... that's pretty tedious, IMO. People say iPhone all the time. And then they're asked... "oh, yeah,.... which one?" You see. We need something to differentiate them all.

My guess is that Apple is leaking all kind of misinformation to keep everybody guessing. Even the "our iPhone prototype got lost in a bar again" story... talk about your free publicity. How is that THAT phone wasn't found? Makes you wonder if it was just smoke/mirrors.
 
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Well I agree to some extend. If the iPhone 5 is really out there somewhere (so an all new design) then its very, very well hidden this time. I mean there should be warehouses full of them by now but where are they? Not even one part has leaked out concluding an all new design. We should have seen redesigned parts by now. You can keep something very secret but some tiny bit will always leak. Kudos if they take us all by surprise this year. But I'm betting less and less money on it!
 
Here's a wild thought.

In past years, the iPhone has been the only thing announced at Keynotes (maybe with some little bits thrown in here and there - but the iPhone took the limelight). If they're mixing the iPhone and iPod events (the latter of which were getting pretty dry), perhaps it means that the new phone isn't all that much to boast about, in itself not worth a keynote - having to use the iPods to pad it out?

Obviously, that's kind of a wild tangent, but ya never know...
 
While the wait since the iPhone 4 has been very long, I'm actually kind of glad that we're basically clueless as to what to expect on October 4th (if that is in fact that media event date). Much different than last year when we all knew exactly what to expect in mid-April.
 
They may introduce the iPhone 4s, available almost immediately, and then show off the iPhone 5, coming next spring.

I guess that would be a let down, eh?

Well, suppose the iPhone 4s is the iPhone 5!

And next spring will be the iPhone 6.

That would work!
 
Other phones being "better" as you say... is just your opinion. Nothing else comes close to iOS.. and no other phone is built close to the iPhone 4.

And this is where you try to pass off your opinion as fact. The finality with which you make those statements and the way you brush off anything else as garbage shows that you've completely bought into the Apple hype machine.

The iPhone 4 is a great product. And the older generation iPhones, despite the plastic back, were great products too. In fact, I've thought about buying an iPhone 4 on many occasions, but haven't been able to give up a physical keyboard. But, yes, the iPhone 4 is a great product. That's a fact, despite the vulnerability of that glass panels on either side.

But no other phone is built close to the iPhone 4? Eh, not so much. Motorola builds a fine product, and my experience with my original Droid is comparable to all of my friends that have owned a Motorola smartphone. (And I would guess it's similar to those who own HTC products.) Drop a Droid without a case from waist level, and you'll knick up the metal band, but that's about it. Drop it 20 more times like that, and it's still fine. Drop an iPhone 4 from waist level and you're damn lucky if that doesn't break. And sure, it's cheap to replace the back, but what about the front? You're basically buying another phone there.

You talk up iPhone and iOS like there's no competition and it would be stupid to buy anything else. But, while the iPhone is a great product and iOS is a great operating system, that's just not true.
 
If we've waited 18 months for an A5 and 8MP camera...I'm gonna be hugely disappointed. The A5's been out since the iPad 2's release in early Spring. An 18-month wait for that...come on people...think? These analysts have no more of a clue than any of us.

With Smartphones coming out of non-Apple factories like bats out of a collapsing cave...Apple can't wait 1 1/2 years between phone updates with only minor spec bumps. I'll be buying regardless, and so I'm a part of the problem...but for the common non-Apple fanboy people will elect to go another direction.

Apple offers different model iPads, MBPs, iMacs, Mac Airs...why not iPhones? I'm thinking now is the time for them to spring variety on us. If not, I'm gonna cry all the way to the Apple store to get the latest and greatest! :)
 
I think apple have just seriously 'over engineered' their security/secrecy this time around! After the leaks of the past.

I don't see Apple overshooting their typical iPhone update cycle (June ish) so significantly just for a small internal spec bump. I'm betting on a Redesigned iPhone 5

I would not be surprised if the whole 'iPhone 4s' thing is a smoke screen from Apple, and doesn't actually exist.
 
The motorola ones are very durable. Motorola is known for having excellent build quality.

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The build quality of Motorola phones is good, but we'd class them below HTC overall.

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I remember with the D1 a lot of people had problems with the keyboard coming up and also a problem with the slide mechanism feeling loose when the phone was closed.

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How's the build quality of the Atrix? I've been playing w/ it at the store, and seems pretty solid, albeit a bit light and "plasticky". The other phone I'd be comparing it to is the upcoming HTC Thunderbolt (yet to be released).

I don't think Motorola is the best Android manufacturer when it comes to build quality. There's a reason Google hasn't released any Nexus phones made by them.
 
haven't you considered...

I don't know why nobody is proposing the OBVIOUS! The real reason behind all the delays is because Apple is going to make a single model of the iPhone that supports both CDMA and GSM across all the used frequencies? One model that will work on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, and nearly EVERY other provider across the world? THAT would easily justify the reason behind the delays, and would easily justify designating it an iPhone 5
 
I don't know why nobody is proposing the OBVIOUS! The real reason behind all the delays is because Apple is going to make a single model of the iPhone that supports both CDMA and GSM across all the used frequencies? One model that will work on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, and nearly EVERY other provider across the world? THAT would easily justify the reason behind the delays, and would easily justify designating it an iPhone 5

I would think supporting more than one radio would decrease battery life even if the radio not in use was powered down. It would increase cost and complexity. What would be the advantage when most phones were carrier locked?
 
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