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if you've been following Apple rumors, you would know that WSJ gets controlled leaks from Apple. This has been the case with the iPad release, as well as past Apple-related releases. And no, I'm not guessing. This is a fact.

you see, Walt Mossberg's employer is the WSJ, and Jobs and Mossberg go way back. He even quotes him on some Apple products back in the 90s during his keynote speeches.

I wasnt aware of this. Has the WSJ ever been wrong so far? Just trying to judge their credibility.
 
I would buy the iPhone 4s only model if it were released back at the WWDC. Sixteen months though seems like an awfully long time for a redesigned antennae, A5 chip, increased camera capacity and maybe a larger screen. Sure Apple needed to shift the iPhone to October in light of the fading buzz around the iPod.

Let’s also not forget this is going to be Tim’s first product, if not legitimately in the eyes of the public. If Apple releases a speed-bumped iPhone it will cast Tim in a poor light and send investors scrambling as the guiding light of Apple is gone. Of course none of that’s true, but in the facts-averse reality that is 21st Century America that’s the way the story will be spun.

Perceptually the iPhone release needs to be a home run.

The only scenario that jumps to mind with the iPhone remaining largely unchanged is merging the iPod touch and iPhone line in to a single no contract $250 device. There has been some recently unearthed indications that Apple may be moving in that direction.
 
What makes you think the WSJ writer doesn't get his "information" from the same rumor sites that feed all these threads?

Because WSJ is one of the few publications left with journalistic integrity that fact and source checks before publishing things - the web and the 24 hour news cycle have all but destroyed it.
 
I have bet a pack of chewits with a friend over this. He claims that there's no new iPhone, and they're going to release the exact same phone. Thinking back I should have bet my house over this! All they have to do is change one tiny thing and I win.

I don't care if it looks the same as the 4, i love the design of the 4. A slightly larger screen would be nice though, if they could show horn one into the same case.
 
I actually think the BGR article is the most sensible thing I've heard regarding 4S vs. 4S+5.

I think the iPhone 4S actually IS the iPhone 5. The rumor websites are the ones who invented the names "4S" and "5" and created the idea that they are both different and not just different, but drastically different...

... but they could be one and the same. We've been mislead into thinking that a 4S = minor internal upgrade, while a 5 = major upgrade & design overhaul. Why can't it be both those features in the same thing? Meaning, one new iPhone this year: a slightly upgraded but also slightly redesigned phone (an answer to antennae-gate, perhaps)?

And whatever they call it is whatever they call it.
 
This would be a HUGE disappointment...but no one would feel worse than the people speaking at the WWDC...they never promised us anything...but all these rumors lead us to EXPECT them to come out with the i5.
 
"How do you explain what Apple’s iPhone hardware team has been doing in the 16 months? :mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::mad::mad::mad:
 
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Can an Apple employee please go to a bar, get drunk and lose the iPhone 5 already?
 
If it is anything more than some minor speck bumps, I really will be surprised.
4S sounds reasonable, and if you look at history- when have they ever Blow Our Minds with an update?

That's just how they roll, and keep us suckers upgrading...;)
 
Yeah, first it's a story that has you all hopeful and then another that kind of sucks.

I'm guessing either way when Apple announces that most people will find something they like about the new iPhone(s) and a few people will complain and say they are buying an Android. But only a few of those will actually follow through.
I decided to just buy a Samsung Exhibit 4G just a few weeks ago. I was enthralled with it for about a day and now it is just a PDA.

The fact that I have a T-Mobile prepaid SIM was a strong deciding factor. I get GPS and cellular service over just an iPod Touch. How much does an iPhone 3GS run without a contract?
 
If there is not going to be a redesign, why such the long wait? Possible reasons could be:

1. LTE implementation
2. Antenna/paint perfection/other hardware - they don't want a repeat of last years fiascos.
3. To appease Verizon and its customers who upgraded to the iphone 4.
4. Because ios5 is taking longer then expected.
5. To sign up more US carriers - Tmobile/Sprint.

Personally I hope its called an iphone 5 in an iphone 4 case with an LTE chip and 32/64 gb of memory. I dont want or need a bigger phone to carry around and I dislike the tapered 3g/3gs.
 
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Can an Apple employee please go to a bar, get drunk and lose the iPhone 5 already?

According to this story, it may have happened already and no one would even notice it wasn't an iphone 4. Seems like Apple's forward thinking has suddenly been put it into reverse.
 
I wasnt aware of this. Has the WSJ ever been wrong so far? Just trying to judge their credibility.

Lets put it this way, they reported the Verizon iPhone FAR earlier than anybody else. And nobody believed them. People on this forum stopped paying attention to WSJ becuase they thought the story about the Verizon iPhone was bogus.

But WSJ is always right on. I'm guessing if there is an example of a time they weren't, it's because Apple changed their plan.
 
One anal...yst says this another one that, the only thing im certain with is ... no "5" no more iPhone for me
 
I can't take anymore of these conflicting rumours and yet I cannot look away. You're tearing me apart, Apple!
 

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I wasnt aware of this. Has the WSJ ever been wrong so far? Just trying to judge their credibility.

there have been minor inaccuracies in their reporting, but believe me, WSJ is a reputable source.

the authors of this article wrote about the imminent iPad launch with details that turned out to be correct. TechCrunch even tracked if they were accurate or not, and in most cases, they ended up being right.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704657104576142262842435544.html
 
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