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iPhone 4S with A5, Sim-less? "Major New" iPhone 5 Due in 2012

As a true Apple enthusiast, I'm sad to see that Apple is taking the easy way out. Keeping the iPhone 4 "look".

I really wanted a fresh new iPhone 5 this year not next.

A phone that I could be proud of, as one of Apples best phones yet.

There is no way I will buy another iPhone 4 look alike from Apple. Ever.

So, it looks like I will relegate my current iPhone 4 to the pile of unused phones collecting dust and waiting to be recycled.

Perhaps 2012 will be a better year for the iPhone, as this year will go down in history as the year of Antennagate - and it's milk toast follow up look alike.

Man, how I wish Apple would get their ducks in a row and do what they are capable of. Coasting along does not serve Apple well.

Oh sure they will make billions and sell everything they make. But that proves absolutely nothing other than the gullibility of the American Public.

TV watching, iPad using, sit on their ass, overweight Americans.

Sad, ever so sad.



On a POSITIVE note, I'm super happy with my new unlocked, Samsung S II. I am enjoying this phone so much it's crazy.

Not being one to declare one phone better than the next, I will simply say it's relieved me from the frustrations of the iPhone 4.

And THAT is a big achievement.
 
Phil A. said:
And what if the carrier in the country you are going to doesn't support the "sim switching", or refuses to switch you over.
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What carrier would say no to more users spending cash on their network?

They don't even need new tariffs or anything, they just need to upload the SIM data instead of putting it in physical SIMs. It's not complicated really.
 
Phil A. said:
And what if the carrier in the country you are going to doesn't support the "sim switching", or refuses to switch you over. What if you want to temporarily use a different phone on your account?


There is no way I would ever buy a "simless" GSM phone - it's a crazy idea, does away with one of the huge advantages of GSM, and makes no sense at all.

I buy my phones sim-free so I have the flexibility to drop in a local SIM when I go abroad, or switch my SIM between different phones (such as a cheap and cheerful phone if I'm going somewhere where I don't want to risk my iPhone) as I want to, and I don't care how good the iPhone 4S (or whatever it's called) may be, I'll stick with my 4 if the next phone comes out with a built in SIM
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and here you have the same flexibility to switch.

That is like saying, what if the carrier abroad dosent support your phone band or what if they dont carry the right sim size or what if there is no carrier? Situation can always be made

E-Sims will eventually become the norm and all carriers will start taking it in.

The only downside of an e-Sim is that you cant switch phones. but i am sure there is a way to transfer the data from phone to phone
 
maclaptop said:
As a true Apple enthusiast, I'm sad to see that Apple is taking the easy way out. Keeping the iPhone 4 "look".

I really wanted a fresh new iPhone 5 this year not next.

A phone that I could be proud of, as one of Apples best phones yet.

There is no way I will buy another iPhone 4 look alike from Apple. Ever.
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People like you are funny to read. Is your iPhone 4 not working or what? Wait untill next year and buy iPhone 5 then and even then your iPhone 4 will be just fine.
 
gkpm said:
What carrier would say no to more users spending cash on their network?

They don't even need new tariffs or anything, they just need to upload the SIM data instead of putting it in physical SIMs. It's not complicated really.
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i'd be more worried about your carrier not letting u use different networks
 
IF apple removes the SIM it will be the final drop for me. Even though i dont like Android that much it will allow me the freedom and simplicity to swap the sim and use cheaper option when i go abroad on work or vacation. Hell i want that freedom.
And btw if Samsung manages to make place for both SIM + uSD card and still make a slimmer phone (Galaxy SII) with dual core then this is just BS from Apple that they need the space.

As much as i love Apple products and iOS i wont allow Apple to dictate for me what i should use. Maybe by this time even Nokia makes a nice win mobile :)
 
bushido said:
i'd be more worried about your carrier not letting u use different networks
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Like the carrier-locked devices currently sold? Well someone would have to find a way around those, same as they have found a way around the existing lock.
 
t0mbola said:
You still will be, read my post :rolleyes:
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Instead of rolling your eyes (I did read your post), why don't you answer the second part of my issue - how do you propose I take my e-sim out of my iPhone and put it into the cheap nokia phone I use when I go to the beach, or football training, etc?

If all phones supported e-sims then it wouldn't be a problem as you'd still have the flexibility of a physical sim, but until then, it's one bleeding edge I've got no desire to be on
 
Phil A. said:
And what if the carrier in the country you are going to doesn't support the "sim switching", or refuses to switch you over. What if you want to temporarily use a different phone on your account?


There is no way I would ever buy a "simless" GSM phone - it's a crazy idea, does away with one of the huge advantages of GSM, and makes no sense at all.

I buy my phones sim-free so I have the flexibility to drop in a local SIM when I go abroad, or switch my SIM between different phones (such as a cheap and cheerful phone if I'm going somewhere where I don't want to risk my iPhone) as I want to, and I don't care how good the iPhone 4S (or whatever it's called) may be, I'll stick with my 4 if the next phone comes out with a built in SIM
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Yeah i agree, When I go to festivals, concerts etc I have a cheap Nokia phone that i just bung the iPhone sim into. What would I do now? I would not take my iPhone to festivals NO WAY!

Guess ill just have to change my number everytime i do!
 
If thats all that apple does for this year, iphone sales are going to go down pretty drastically, it will be outdated the day it comes out.
 
Great. But eSIM thing is a bad idea. I often swap sims when I travel, to buy cheap local service.
 
Hopefully Apple doesn't get clever and decide to increase yield on the A5 by fusing off processing cores that don't work thus creating "single-core" A5s for the iPhone...
 
vampyren said:
IF apple removes the SIM it will be the final drop for me.
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No one is removing the SIM, it's just becoming software. When you go abroad you can download a new one.

It's very good that you're all suspicious, but don't ditch it until the details are out. The technology itself is very promising.
 
KnightWRX said:
Again with this non-sense about iPhone 4S vs iPhone 5. The iPhone 3GS was named so because it was the same generation as the iPhone 3G, it's because the iPhone 3G didn't fit in the generations.

They aren't going to call the 6th generation iPhone, the iPhone 5.
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Its going to be called iPhone 4S. The sooner you subscribe, the less frustrated you'll be.
 
Good to know that people still don't understand how a built-in SIM is intended to work.

It would kind of be like a dual SIM phone where you can easily swap between carriers, but you wouldn't be limited to just two carriers. The internal SIM could be programmed for any number of carriers, without the need to track down a physical SIM card for each carrier.

In theory, once the standard was widely adopted, you could electronically swap your SIM between phones as well, just like you can with a regular SIM card. This standard is going through the same licensing body that governs the plastic SIM cards, it's not an Apple proprietary standard.

Hopefully Apple does adopt this technology, just so people can understand how it works.
 
It's a phone, people. Don't you have better things to do than buying new phones every year or whining that new phone is not what you wanted.
 
Kariya said:
Its going to be called iPhone 4S. The sooner you get on board the less frustrated you'll be.
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There's zero reason to call it the 4S. A rumor doesn't become true just because a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon.
 
KnightWRX said:
I was thrilled when they announced the 3GS, it was a major upgrade from the 3G. Moreso than the iPhone 4 was for the 3GS. Now that was a "meh" update. Just changing the outside look and mostly keeping the same internals.
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From a hardware standpoint, 3GS to 4 was a far bigger upgrade than 3G to 3GS. Retina Display? Vastly superior camera with flash?

The iPhone 3GS did not make the iPhone 3G look antiquated. The iPhone 4 made every iPhone before it look 5 years behind.
 
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