Everyone already calls the iPhone 4 the "4G" ....
"Hey, is that the iPhone four -gee?"
I think they are better off just calling it "iPhone" ... just the way they do with the iPods.
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iPhone 4S with A5, Sim-less? "Major New" iPhone 5 Due in 2012
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"Hey, is that the iPhone four -gee?"
I think they are better off just calling it "iPhone" ... just the way they do with the iPods.
This. Might be OK in the States where you have a single carrier - but I like the ability to travel and swap SIM cards on my (unlocked out of the box) phone.
I don't like the idea of a SIM-less phone. Not that the current iPhone offers any choices of carriers or pre-paid SIMs in the US...
Still, I was hoping that one day we'd be able to experience the ease of swapping SIMs that Europeans do.
Still, I was hoping that one day we'd be able to experience the ease of swapping SIMs that Europeans do.
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As you probably know, Apple has been working for years on reducing the size of SIM cards because they need space in the phone. They even thought about a device without any SIM card, that is what is known as the e-SIM project.
e-SIM. That is a bad name. It should have been Sans-SIM
On a more serious note. Couldn't Apple just design and use their own SIM card for use in their phones only?
As you probably know, Apple has been working for years on reducing the size of SIM cards because they need space in the phone. They even thought about a device without any SIM card, that is what is known as the e-SIM project.
e-SIM. That is a bad name. It should have been Sans-SIM
On a more serious note. Couldn't Apple just design and use their own SIM card for use in their phones only?
If they really have no user replaceable sim then you'll be stuck with AT&T and teir wonderful roaming rates. Your crazy if you think a built in sim means anything more than no more moving a phone to another carrier.
Well there's no point making a CDMA+GSM iPhone for the States, and a GSM iPhone every where else. It would make more sense to just sell phone. But that's not my point, even if its not moving SIM across carriers (and mind you that some people in the States use T-Mobile), some people like moving SIMs across devices depending on whether they feel like using their WP7 or iPhone today.
Honestly, having a SIM is the main reason why I like having GSM. Otherwise I could care less ... but no, I do care because I want my SIM!
The only problem with the 3GS is that it was so much more capable than the 3G, that 3rd party app developers never actually wrote anything to take advantage of it. Epic were pretty much the first with the Epic Citadel demo. The phone was so much more capable than the 3G that to write software to take advantage of it would mean foregoing the entire 3G and original iPhone installed base.
That sucked being an early 3GS adopter. Knowing your phone can offer you such a superior experience, yet lacking the software to get it.
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Something doesn't add up with all these rumors. Why would apple wait for a fall release for a phone with just a minor spec bump? I just don't see how a 4S fits into the current naming scheme or why it would require a fall release, especially when they have so many 3GS users coming off contract soon looking for their next new phone.
I don't see how it could be a 4S, or why a 4S would require a delay from the normal update pattern.
I don't see how it could be a 4S, or why a 4S would require a delay from the normal update pattern.
Because then they'll be able to sell more [white] iPhone 4's. When they have exhausted those sales, they'll throw out something new and people will be like "omg, a new iPhone ... must ... have ...."
I'm hoping for a new iPhone this summer though.
And those who are saying the 3G to 3GS transition wasn't impressive at all ... maybe not when it was running on 3.x but on 4.x, you'll wish you had a 3GS.
The only reason speed doesn't impress me is that by the end of year with updates you tend to lose a fair amount of it. Now the iPhone 4 is slower, springboard animations are questionable at best as well. The speed only stays for so long so I want more for my money. e.g. better camera etc. The camera on the 3GS might as well be the one on the 3G for how much better it looked lol.
That's one way of looking at it. As an early adopter of the 3GS too... I'm happy that the enhanced speed of the phone has given it a great longevity. Mine still feels snappy and usable two years on - even after the big iOS update. I'm not sure 3G owners would say the same.
I love the iPhone, and have owned every model so far, but I went to the Galaxy S2 for the bigger, brighter screen and much better camera.
Resolution is better on the iPhone4 admittedly, but I just couldn't go back to a 3.5" screen any more.
No 4" screen, no dice. Guess I'll have to wait for the 5.
Resolution is better on the iPhone4 admittedly, but I just couldn't go back to a 3.5" screen any more.
No 4" screen, no dice. Guess I'll have to wait for the 5.
I dropped it's legitimacy as soon as i saw this:
This has fake written all over it. They don't even know if the A5 will be dual core or single core, when it obviously will be Dual Core. And sim-less? I don't think so.
I dislike how these sources degrade the odd iPhone upgrades. "oh 3GS was a minor upgrade" and now "iPhone 4S will be a minor upgrade". Also, why the name 4S? Some random developer with the same mentality called it that, just because they got a Dual Core iPhone to test their apps with, and now everyone is throwing it around.
Every iPhone upgrade is major.
With that kind of mentality the iPad 2 should've been the iPad 1S.
Also, it's not Apple-like to call the 6th generation iPhone, the iPhone 5. Plus, it wouldn't make sense to release iOS 5 with an iPhone 4S and iOS 6 with an iPhone 5.
This has fake written all over it. They don't even know if the A5 will be dual core or single core, when it obviously will be Dual Core. And sim-less? I don't think so.
I dislike how these sources degrade the odd iPhone upgrades. "oh 3GS was a minor upgrade" and now "iPhone 4S will be a minor upgrade". Also, why the name 4S? Some random developer with the same mentality called it that, just because they got a Dual Core iPhone to test their apps with, and now everyone is throwing it around.
Every iPhone upgrade is major.
With that kind of mentality the iPad 2 should've been the iPad 1S.
Also, it's not Apple-like to call the 6th generation iPhone, the iPhone 5. Plus, it wouldn't make sense to release iOS 5 with an iPhone 4S and iOS 6 with an iPhone 5.
I use this phrase a lot in real life when asked how my 3G is doing so I'll type it here.
"Slower than erosion"
It's fairly usable on 3.1.3 though.
I'm not sure how you're coming to that conclusion. You've made that claim before and it's just as inaccurate today as it was the first time.
Screen? Much better rear camera? forward facing camera, battery life?
The 3G to 3GS was a speed increase (albeit a much needed one) The 3GS>4 was another speed bump, a redesign, and everything else.
the idea of a simless design goes against GSM standards. Sim card allows for easy jumping between phones.
Also every year the activation mess with the iPhone is 100% apple fault for NOT following the standard for all the other phones. They slam AT&T's system and other carriers systems by requiring you to activate a new sim. That makes it a royal mess.
If Apple would follow the standard like everyone else it is take the sim card out of the old phone and put it in the new phone. All done, no activation require and no slamming AT&T's system once a year. A system that is not and never should be design for a slamming like that. It is design to handle the much lower load of normal sim updates and new customers.
The sim card in my current phone is over 4 years old and on my 3rd contract and 3rd phone. No point to replace the sim if it is still good. Hell it is not like the sim card is used for much any more on modern smart phones.
Also every year the activation mess with the iPhone is 100% apple fault for NOT following the standard for all the other phones. They slam AT&T's system and other carriers systems by requiring you to activate a new sim. That makes it a royal mess.
If Apple would follow the standard like everyone else it is take the sim card out of the old phone and put it in the new phone. All done, no activation require and no slamming AT&T's system once a year. A system that is not and never should be design for a slamming like that. It is design to handle the much lower load of normal sim updates and new customers.
The sim card in my current phone is over 4 years old and on my 3rd contract and 3rd phone. No point to replace the sim if it is still good. Hell it is not like the sim card is used for much any more on modern smart phones.
Don't get me wrong, I'm quite happy that I still have a snappy phone all those years later and quite frankly, I wouldn't have wanted a 3G and not even being able to get desktop backgrounds.
Hence why I think making the iPhone 4 having close to the same internals that the 3GS has means it will have that much reduced life compared to our venerable model.
Bring on an A5 equipped iPhone 4, call it whatever you want, it'll truely be the 5th generation iPhone and be a very worthy upgrade.
Yeah, the iPhone 4 was an impressive bump. I'm still confused as to why they didn't bump the GPU in the 4 though. Its the same one that's in the 3GS.
It wouldn't, but the article said that Apple decided against going simless.
i use this phrase a lot in real life when asked how my 3g is doing so i'll type it here.
"slower than erosion"
My Ideas on Built in SIM
I think I can imagine a way how this could be done very nicely.
Apple will ship a small SIM adaptor with their new iPhone which you will connect to device, insert your SIM in it and it will transfer all data to the phone and activate it. From that point you won't need your SIM nor the SIM adaptor. When you put the SIM into a different device it will automatically deactivate the virtual SIM copy in your other phone. If you often switch between two SIM cards you will have to carry this special SIM adpator with you.
Sounds okay to me...
I think I can imagine a way how this could be done very nicely.
Apple will ship a small SIM adaptor with their new iPhone which you will connect to device, insert your SIM in it and it will transfer all data to the phone and activate it. From that point you won't need your SIM nor the SIM adaptor. When you put the SIM into a different device it will automatically deactivate the virtual SIM copy in your other phone. If you often switch between two SIM cards you will have to carry this special SIM adpator with you.
Sounds okay to me...
It was my first smartphone so for a techie like me it'll always be remembered.
Every other iPhone since is just an evolution of it to me. The 3G will always be my favourite.
How sad, I'm getting nostalgic over a phone.
have i been too optimistic in holding out for a Sprint iPhone? Granted, reception isn't as brilliant as Verizon, but i've grown fond of Sprint in the past 7 years that i've had their service.
As for the naming, i forgot to quote the person who said it first, somewhere above, just remove the number schemes like the iPods! You don't hear people say, "I have an iPod Nano 5." I think it would make it a whole lot more simple. None of this 4GS or 3G or other crazy shenanigans!
As for the naming, i forgot to quote the person who said it first, somewhere above, just remove the number schemes like the iPods! You don't hear people say, "I have an iPod Nano 5." I think it would make it a whole lot more simple. None of this 4GS or 3G or other crazy shenanigans!