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iPhone 4S with A5, Sim-less? "Major New" iPhone 5 Due in 2012
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yeah that is still removing the sim. Point of the sim is you can pop it out and quickly move it to another phone. No having to go threw a system to switch it over.
You going to be doing a high risk activity why would you want to take a 500-600 buck phone with you when instead you can put your sim in an Old phone that you do not care if it gets damage.
There is often some truth to these rumors, but the signal is degraded by noise. For example, E-sim. You have a rumor posted that the new iPhone won't use sim cards!! Is that true? NO WAY!!
What's far more likely is that the iPhone has the ability to store "virtual sim cards". Ex. insert your sim, take a virtual snapshot of it, then remove the sim card. Then insert your other sim card that you use in Europe, take a snapshot, remove it. Now when you want to change sim cards when you land in Europe, just run iSimManager and switch to your Europe sim! When you come back, run it again to switch to USA sim! No need to carry sim cards with you.
This would be an AWESOME feature that would bury the competition.
What's far more likely is that the iPhone has the ability to store "virtual sim cards". Ex. insert your sim, take a virtual snapshot of it, then remove the sim card. Then insert your other sim card that you use in Europe, take a snapshot, remove it. Now when you want to change sim cards when you land in Europe, just run iSimManager and switch to your Europe sim! When you come back, run it again to switch to USA sim! No need to carry sim cards with you.
This would be an AWESOME feature that would bury the competition.
Exactly.
If this was some other company, people had been cheering up already.
Just because Apple is doing it; there must be something wrong it. They are closed and what not...
There is one big downside. If for eg, my iPhone crashes and I need to use another phone with the same sim, I cannot. This is NOT good. There must be a way for this and Apple should think about it.
That's brilliant and would work with the existing SIM system. Screw dual SIM cards, why not one for each network!?
Apple will ship a small SIM adaptor with their new iPhone which you will connect to device, insert your SIM in it and it will transfer all data to the phone and activate it. From that point you won't need your SIM nor the SIM adaptor. When you put the SIM into a different device it will automatically deactivate the virtual SIM copy in your other phone. If you often switch between two SIM cards you will have to carry this special SIM adpator with you.
Wow, the entire reason for no sim went right over your head didn't it?
Apple want rid of physical sims to save space inside the phone, what's the point in still having the slot without a sim in it because you took a "snapshot" of it?
Erm... the whole idea is regarding removing the space that the SIM would take up. If you could insert the SIM to take a snapshot of it in the first place, that space would not have been removed.
Something doesn't seem right
At this point everyone is expecting a iPhone 4s/5 this September, with an A5, improved GPU, improved cameras, same design.
I don't buy it.
Apple gets most of their revenue from iPhone handsets correct? And Apple loves their iPhone. At a time like this when android is taking over, and the phone is delayed for various reasons. I strongly believe that the 5th gen iPhone will be a major revamp, something unexpected. Apple won't tKe the easy way out and wait until 2012.
At this point everyone is expecting a iPhone 4s/5 this September, with an A5, improved GPU, improved cameras, same design.
I don't buy it.
Apple gets most of their revenue from iPhone handsets correct? And Apple loves their iPhone. At a time like this when android is taking over, and the phone is delayed for various reasons. I strongly believe that the 5th gen iPhone will be a major revamp, something unexpected. Apple won't tKe the easy way out and wait until 2012.
When my 3G was stolen July 2009 I was forced to upgrade to the 3GS. At first I was upset, then it was jailbroken and I enjoyed mostly flawless Backgrounder for a year before iOS4 finally came out. I had it on my 3G and it sucked in comparison. Stock, maybe not so huge a difference on iOS3 (probably similar to the iPad 2 today). But you'd better believe my user experience increased exponentially when I upgraded for that reason alone.
And the fact is, it still works well today at nearly the 2 year mark and could probably last one more. That's not bad at all.
I gave a perfectly acceptable reason why Apple could choose to call it the 4S. There's nothing set in stone saying that the number has to refer to the generation--if it's a smaller spec bump in an identical case, why not? The 4S name would indicate that: added speed, same design. The iPhone 5, plain "iPhone," and "iPhone <new feature>" are also possible. We'll just have to wait and see.
I think you will see the major revamp in the software side this time around.
Wait, this next iPhone may not even be dual core?
What on earth does this phone even have?
No LTE
No dual core
No NFC
the same form factor
is the screen any bigger?
If this is what Apple releases after 15 months of waiting, Apple is going to get killed by the Samsung Galaxy S2 and by other smartphones. The rate of technological improvement in the smartphone market is continually accelerating and if this is nothing more than a 3G-->3GS type upgrade, Apple is going to be left behind.
What on earth does this phone even have?
No LTE
No dual core
No NFC
the same form factor
is the screen any bigger?
If this is what Apple releases after 15 months of waiting, Apple is going to get killed by the Samsung Galaxy S2 and by other smartphones. The rate of technological improvement in the smartphone market is continually accelerating and if this is nothing more than a 3G-->3GS type upgrade, Apple is going to be left behind.
I think you will see the major revamp in the software side this time around.[/QUOTE]
I like plain "iPhone" thought!
Wow, the entire reason for no sim went right over your head didn't it?
Apple want rid of physical sims to save space inside the phone, what's the point in still having the slot without a sim in it because you took a "snapshot" of it?
Erm... the whole idea is regarding removing the space that the SIM would take up. If you could insert the SIM to take a snapshot of it in the first place, that space would not have been removed.
Are you two forgetting the ever versatile Dock connector. All they need to do is make a SIM reader adapter. Done.
It's almost certainly going to have the A5 (dual core) that the iPad 2 has. The LTE chips right now are battery hogs and Apple has already stated they aren't interested until the chips are more power efficient (this is the same reason they gave when waiting for the 3G).
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Aside from the simless part this is basically restating the same speculation we've had in the last several months: 8mp camera, a5, dual antenna, same form factor. I won't believe anything unti it's announced next month.
4th generation: iPhone 4
5th generation: iPhone 4S
6th generation: iPhone 5
^Where the hell is the logic in this? Silly people.
They will only reuse a number to either fit the generation name or to fit the network name. Would they name the next iPad "iPad 2s?"
Aside from the simless part this is basically restating the same speculation we've had in the last several months: 8mp camera, a5, dual antenna, same form factor. I won't believe anything unti it's announced next month.
4th generation: iPhone 4
5th generation: iPhone 4S
6th generation: iPhone 5
^Where the hell is the logic in this? Silly people.
They will only reuse a number to either fit the generation name or to fit the network name. Would they name the next iPad "iPad 2s?"
Are you sure they will be able to fit it in there? The version in the iPad is twice as large as the A4.
The article states that it'll be an A5 but that it might be a single core version of the A5.
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Dont you have Twin Sim in the US? I really dont see the problem with eSIM as long as Twin Sim works with it. I have the same subscription on my iPhone 4 and iPad. Same bill, same data rates. I can even add a 3 SIM if I want to, for example for a cheap ass "not too afraid about" phone. It's genius.
Dont you have Twin Sim in the US? I really dont see the problem with eSIM as long as Twin Sim works with it. I have the same subscription on my iPhone 4 and iPad. Same bill, same data rates. I can even add a 3 SIM if I want to, for example for a cheap ass "not too afraid about" phone. It's genius.
Because they're swappable. Any time I'm doing outdoor adventure sports or other activities where my newer, nicer phone is likely to get damaged I put my sim into an old phone.
They shrunk the iPad's A4 down to fit into the iP4. I can't see why they wouldn't do the same thing here.