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iPhone 5 Actually Launching in October, Not September?
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Me too. I wouldn't mind paying $350 for the phone, but Virgin generally increases the price of the phone which sort of makes sense if you're only paying $25 a month. Right now the $25 applies to all phones, I wonder if they'll make an iPhone category and charge an extra $10 or so a month?
I believe new iPods will still be released in September, but it does make sense that Apple would at least reveal the iPhone 5 during that Keynote with a promise of shipping in the next month. Perhaps there was a contract with Verizon that prohibited them from selling the next gen iPhone and this was all the result.Make sense. Event in September, launch in October.
Maybe no new iPods in Sep
Personally hate. My wife and I have been waiting for a very long time and were hoping September would be our last month of time-biding.
I feel your pain. Rocking the original 1st Generation model. Got it in Feb. 2008 -- 16GB model -- unsubsidized at $599... and they still put me in a contract.
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iOS 3 also came out a few days early. That was due to the issue that was had with iOS 2. Where people couldn't upgrade cause the authorization servers failed (miserably).
Well it was never coming out before September 22nd anyway. iOS 5 and iCloud come out in "the Fall", and they will both be live before iPhone 5, guaranteed. So it can't possibly be earlier than the end of September, and if we're lucky it will be before October.
I recall this phrase on previous calls as well. As for what the transition is - it's iPhone 3g/4 to iPhone 4/5. People were reading way to much into it.
I am unsure what to think. John Gruber has coyly mentioned the iPhone 5 coming in September and he also strictly said that anything new that Apple has is launching there.
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If I remember the lawsuit sequence correctly, the first lawsuit was Nokia suing Apple over the iPhone. Apple countersued, and not long after sued HTC. Would Apple be suing left, right and center if Nokia hadn't started the shooting war first? Who knows -- neither I nor you do. Ascribing the beginning of the lawsuits to Android success is a reasonable guess, but so is the Nokia case and so is the transition of Android from a somewhat similar experience to the iPhone with the G1, to the flat out copy of today's Samsung phones.
Speaking of Samsung they've stopped reporting unit Sales (phones or tablets) so if they do surpass Apple, we'll never know about it.
As for Japan, that is actually a perfect illustration of my point. Apple is still on just one, also ran Japanese carrier -- Softbank. That would be like being only on T-Mobile in the US. Do you seriously think that Android competition matters more than getting the iPhone on ALL Japanese carriers including DoCoMo? The iPhone needs wider distribution in Japan. It needs to be on China Mobile in China. Those things will make a huge difference -- Android won't. If Android mattered, the iPhone 4 wouldn't be beating it on both AT&T and Verizon. Overtaking Android in the US is about distributing the iPhone on Sprint, T-Mobile, Virgin, US Cellular, etc. -- not this or that new feature.
Individual features don't make for a bigger or smaller transition -- a new model, regardless of its feature set does (from the point of view of an earnings call). Adding a low cost model (as opposed just selling the previous model at a low cost) is a great example of something that *would* have a potentially serious financial impact to Apple -- one way or another.
iPod Classic is getting bumped to the new Toshiba 1.8" 220 G hard drive.
I said it here.
Because Apple don't wan to turn into RIM or Nokia -- those two kept collecting the easy money while they let their respective platforms stagnate -- look at where they are now..That begs the question, if they are not saturating their market with iPhones (ie sales haven't dropped or even leveled off), why come out with a new one? That seems like they would be leaving easy money on the table...
Meteorological fall is made up. Its nothing but a way of easily saying, yeah Fall consists of Sept. Oct. Nov.
Fall begins September 22nd. Not an entire month prior.
Essentially, astronomical and meteorological fall is the same thing as it all has to do with real weather conditions. There is also calendrical fall, which starts September 1st and ends November 30th.
True, there is a lot of wishful / hopeful thinking for a major update.
Separate issues, and very different types of lawsuits. When companies sue Apple, it's for license fees. When Apple sues someone else, it's never for licensing, it's always about trying to derail their competitors' products using whatever means possible. (E.g. using 15 year old desktop OS patents against HTC's mobile devices, which are the only ones holding up so far.)
Samsung has never reported individual unit sales in earnings reports. They don't even give earnings forecasts. Their publicity release on Galaxy S2 sales earlier this year was totally unlike them.
So what the recent news was really about (and was reported on so poorly) is simply Samsung saying that they're going back to not giving details.
I think we'll still know about it, though.
I wish we had figures to compare with, instead of just a vague report from an analyst who called some ATT and Verizon retail stores to ask what phones were most popular sellers at those stores. No numbers, and no idea of what online sales are. (Which could go either way. Remember when the Verizon iPhone 4 debut was called a bust because most sales were online instead of in store lines?)
Definitely availability and price help. Personally, I'm really curious as to how many of the iPhones sold last quarter were 3GS models. That would be useful information when speculating about future iPhone trends.
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Look, shmook - I just want it to be as advanced and functional as possible - but I'm sure it will follow in the footsteps of Apple's always leading edge industrial design..... ..whether slightly or greatly changed....Not that I don't like the current design, love it, but I want my phone to be distinguishable from the current one
the longer Apple waits, the better the new iPhone will be
I hope so!
Apple released the iPhone 4 about 12 months after the 3GS...
Waiting 16 months for the iPhone 5 better be worth it!
That's why I kinda think the iPhone 5 will be a radical change... and not just an iPhone 4 with refreshed internals. It shouldn't take them that long if that's all they were gonna do...
That's the first thing I thought as well. I hope you are right about the LTE chips, and the delay is not for the curved glass, etc. Maybe NFC ability while they are it it.
This better be darn good... I mean, I know Apple doesn't owe it to me or anything, but gosh!
I also hope that when the iPhone 6 comes out, people that got an iPhone 5 near launch become eligible for an upgrade. (Didn't that happen with the 4 or something? I don't remember) Otherwise I'll be a little ticked that I waited so long for the 5, even though I've been eligible for awhile now... :/
I also hope that when the iPhone 6 comes out, people that got an iPhone 5 near launch become eligible for an upgrade. (Didn't that happen with the 4 or something? I don't remember) Otherwise I'll be a little ticked that I waited so long for the 5, even though I've been eligible for awhile now... :/